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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You don't really believe that's the reason, do you? If you believe the "1,000,000 tickets" claim then obviously there weren't really tickets, just a website sign up to get info for donor/GOTV email lists and entry was first-come-first-served. No one was prevented from showing up merely because of some kids on tiktok. If that were true then tickets would have been limited to arena capacity and maybe a few thousand more for overflow. Doesn't pass the logic test, sorry and Trumpers can't have it both ways. Either Tiktok kids took all the actual tickets or the 1,000,000 claim was complete bs.
    The Tik Tok folks originally wanted to sell out the venue so Trump supporters couldn't get tickets, but had to settle for trolling Trump and his supporters into thinking more people were going to show up than they actually did.

    The actual effect that it had, however, was that by artificially inflating the numbers that high, Trump supporters who might have gone otherwise didn't want to just go if they were going to end up waiting outside and not getting in. They didn't want to go if it was going to be that big of a cluster, especially since there is a pandemic going on, why risk it for nothing? Why would they even need to go to show support if it was already going to be sold out? So they watched from home. That may have been China's plan all along (Tik Tok is owned by China).

    We will see what happens with the next rally, but it looks like this one may have about sold out anyway as potentially thousands of supporters were denied entry, but could have been a lot bigger if they hadn't been trolled and they likely would have filled the outdoor overflow area and beyond. Next time, Trump supporters may figure that they are being trolled and they need to come out and support anyway, so it could be good for his next rally.. but then they likely won't have enough seats unfortunately.
    Last edited by dannno; 06-22-2020 at 12:53 AM.
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  3. #62
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  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Jeannie and I had reserved tickets to attend the rally.
    Although somewhat chaotic with people driving by yelling obscenities at us as we walked, a mean mug or two and a fight or two breaking out around us, everything wasn't actually that bad. However, finding a gate entrance was quite the task...nothing was clarified - and NO..no protesters were blocking entrances. We finally found how to get in. At the exact moment we approached the first barrier (police tape) there were police lined up at the tape and at the opening we were greeted by the Secret service or contract military (not sure who they were) at 6:05 p.m. who told us, along with a multitude of others at our gate (there was three seperate entrance gates at various locations) that we could not enter. We asked why? They said that the BOK had reached its capacity and the temperature checkers had left prematurely and acted pretty smug about it which I thought was strange.

    Some who waited with us said they had friends on the inside who text and told them that there were still many empty seats available. So, we waited at the police tape entrance dumb founded for 20 minutes until the police line started backing up and went through a 10 foot fence and chained and locked the gate. No other explanation. Further, no one was even allowed into the jumbotron area to watch it outside. We walked with a man on our way back to our car, who was on the inside but decided to leave, who also said that there were many more seats available.
    This is the absolute first hand truth. So, we drove home to watch what was left of the rally on tv to see many empty seats in the background and hear nothing but lies from reporters who reported that the Trump rally didn't have the turnout that they expected inside and no one even turned out to rally outside to watch the jumbotron (which is exactly what a supporter waiting with us said the media would say). Nothing but lies! We were lied to! They locked a multitude of us out! They even reported that Trump was surprised at the low turnout. If I can get a message to the President, I will tell him how they duped him at this rally and how he is getting played by those who surround him."
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    CONFIRMED: The police locked people out of Trump's rally, with BLM as an excuse
    Finally reports are trickling in via various social media. Here is what happened: The rally was expected to be so huge that an overflow capacity for 1, 000, 000 people was provided. That amounted to the entire area around the stadium. To get into that area, you had to go through metal detectors that were blocks away. The police shut those down. The lines were there, and people were not allowed entry. Then the media showed nothing but the enormous clear area that was to be used for attendees who could not get into the stadium, saying no one was there and that it was empty, while they refused to show where the actual points of entry were.

    The rally would not have been as big as expected, but it would have at least filled the stadium. It did not fill the stadium because the police used the ruse of ANTIFA to deny EVERYONE access after a certain point.
    ..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  5. #64
    https://www.newser.com/story/292559/...-insiders.html

    The Secret Service said (emphasis added)...

    Team Trump is also blaming "radical" protesters for blocking the entrances, though a Secret Service spokesman says just one arena entrance was temporarily blocked by "several individuals."

    "The local police temporarily closed the gates at that entrance point," the rep says. "As soon as local law enforcement was able to provide a clear path, the entrance point was reopened and attendees were permitted to enter."
    Who has pics or video proving otherwise?



    The parking garage most often used by visitors to the BOk center is on the far right. Third St., extending in from the bottom right corner, leads from and to expressway exits and entrances; another exit funnels traffic onto Second, which tees off beside the arena in the foreground.

    Old City Hall, just beyond the parking garage, is visible from the gate which was closed for a time in the video posted previously. That gate was by the Adams; that and the Beacon Bldg are directly in the center of this pic. That was not the only gate.

    The former Y, scene of loud protests, is visible on the right, just to the right of the green and gray building. The Mayo is the tall red brick building between it and the Adams. This is looking east. A back corner of the old federal building can be found directly beyond the BOk CENTER sign on the side of the arena.

    Meanwhile, just outside that parking garage, another entrance...



    Another view of the Adams Hotel gate, exact time unknown..




    Directly in front of the BOk Center, looking west at the parking garage.



    People entering through the Adams Hotel gate, either before or after protestors blocked it. Near the end of the video, people can be seen arriving from the west, the direction of the parking garage, which is visible beyond. Anyone have video of that gate blocked, locked or turning people away?

    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-23-2020 at 04:37 PM.
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Trump is now openly stating the election will likely be stolen






    Why would he say that? ANSWER: Because now he knows he can't trust the national guard, the U.S. armed forces, or ANY OTHER security force he puts to the task of keeping the election from being stolen. He knows this because two hours before last night's rally, the National Guard said the stadium was full and stopped letting people in. He found that out later. If this happened, it means there is so damn much corruption it cannot be overcome. The election WILL be stolen and he knows it.
    Look at all the leftist states and how they acted with Antifa. If you think such states are going to turn in accurate results, you're dreaming and Trump just woke up. LAST NIGHT'S RALLY WAS THE WAKE UP CALL, CORRUPTION IN THE SECURITY FORCES WAS WHY ATTENDANCE FLOPPED, THEY TURNED EVERYONE IN THE LAST TWO HOURS BEFORE THE RALLY AWAY AND CLOSED THE GATES AND f***ing VANISHED entirely leaving locked gates behind a full hour and a half BEFORE Pence spoke.
    This is a serious issue folks, the nation is so far gone we are easily provably screwed. There is simply too much corruption, the communists are in power EVERYWHERE. The conspiracy theorists were 100 percent bang on (like they all knew they were) and now it's all going to happen absent bloodshed and the use of the 2nd amendment.
    The only silver lining in it all is that Trump is calling them out NOW and openly stating they are going to steal it, LONG before the election even happens. I don't know if it is actually going to make a difference if everyone knows, but at least everyone will know.
    ..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  8. #66
    Report: Tulsa Arena Management Sabotaged Trump Rally Attendance
    A June 25 report by Armstrong Economics claimed that early in the day on Saturday BOK Center staff had placed stickers on every other seat in the arena barring use thereby cutting in half the attendance of the 19,199 seat arena.
    Original article from Armstrong Electronics detailing the corruption in BOK center:
    Political Corruption at Trump Rally
    Excerpts:

    • Entry to the “Secure Area” NOT the BOK center was about 5 blocks away where you had to pass “screeners” who took your temperature, made you put on a face mask and gave you a green band to proceed to Secret Service Security.
    • When the temperature screeners left their post (2 hrs before rally start) - the entire entry to the BOK Trump rally was shut down.
    • The BOK center just before the doors opened had blocked off every other seat in the arena so the arena could only hold about 9500 people. (Stickers on every other seat)
    • BOK center was only letting 100 in at a time.
    • When temp screeners left their posts thousands could not get in to the first checkpoint because the temperature screeners had to put green wrist band on you to gain access to the Secret Service security checkpoint. No green band— no entry to the security check point.
    • No green wrist bands meant supporters could not get into the holding area to see the stage for the outdoor Trump Rally.
    • It was all a setup to make it look like the crowds did not show up. The crowds DID show up and after 5pm,- 2 hours before the event- no one was there to let them get to security.
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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Report: Tulsa Arena Management Sabotaged Trump Rally Attendance
    A June 25 report by Armstrong Economics claimed that early in the day on Saturday BOK Center staff had placed stickers on every other seat in the arena barring use thereby cutting in half the attendance of the 19,199 seat arena.
    This Politico article states that social distancing stickers were in accordance with BOK arena's policy, what made that 'sabotage'?


    How Trump’s Crowd Obsession Could Bite Him Back

    The president mined a long political tradition to turn public gatherings into a potent weapon. Now it’s pointed straight back at him.

    By JEFF GREENFIELD
    07/08/2020

    It is Donald Trump’s worst nightmare: giving his acceptance speech in front of a half-empty arena, facing an audience whose faces are covered in masks, muffling their cheers and chants.

    But it is exactly what he may be facing if last month’s edict from authorities in Jacksonville, Florida, mandating masks for all indoor gatherings remains in effect through late August. There is a special twist to this ruling: The Republicans had moved their convention out of Charlotte, North Carolina—a city that had put safety rules in place about public gatherings—just so the president could get the kind of crowd he wanted.

    As of now, the planned Jacksonville convention looks like another blow to Trump’s insatiable hunger for crowds. His campaign kickoff last month in Tulsa, Oklahoma, turned from a potentially thrilling launchpad to an embarrassment when the campaign claimed it had had more than a million ticket requests, and the president ended up speaking to whole empty sections of a 19,000-seat arena. So fearful was his entourage about the prospect of empty seats, according to press reports, that they went through the arena, removing social distancing signs, hoping for a crowd jammed together, in direct violation of the arena’s policy.
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...essions-348322

  10. #68
    GOP-Adelson wing's rising star and controversial TPUSA figure Shapiro denies claims that Tulsa rally caused Covid-19 infection that led to death of former Presidential candidate Herman Cain:

    Published 7 hours ago


    Ben Shapiro slams 'gross' pundits blaming Trump rally for Herman Cain’s death from coronavirus

    By Yael Halon | Fox News


    74-year-old Herman Cain, former businessman and Republican presidential candidate, has passed away after being hospitalized with COVID-19.

    Ben Shapiro responded Thursday to what he called the "ugly" reaction by some prominent pundits to Herman Cain’s death from COVID-19.

    "He was a 74-year-old survivor of Stage 4 colon cancer," the "Ben Shapiro Show" host said, "and people are dunking on Cain on Twitter because, obviously, he attended President Trump's rally in Tulsa less than two weeks before being diagnosed with COVID 19."

    Cain did not wear a mask at the indoor event on June 20. Eleven days later, Cain was hospitalized after testing positive for the coronavirus.
    PUNDITS SUGGEST TRUMP RALLY TO BLAME FOR CAIN'S DEATH

    "This is the rationale for many on the left...because obviously if somebody whose politics you don't like dies of COVID, then you get to dunk on them ... that's basically the way our garbage world works," Shapiro added.

    While tributes to Cain poured in as word of his death began to spread early Thursday, others used the moment to attack Trump and his supporters. Stand Up Republic executive director Evan McMullin used the news to refer to Trump rallygoers as a “science denial Trump cult.”

    “Herman Cain was hospitalized for coronavirus two weeks after he attended Trump’s Tulsa rally without a face mask. He’s the first senior casualty of the science denial Trump cult. The question is whether even that can wake others up about the dangers of Trump and the virus,” McMullin wrote.

    CNN contributor Ana Navarro-Cardenas said, “Covid doesn’t care about partisanship.”
    FORMER GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HERMAN CAIN DIES AT 74 FROM CORONAVIRUS COMPLICATIONS
    Shapiro called the response "ugly stuff" and "very, very bad news" and argued that there is "no evidence" that Cain first became infected with the virus at the Tulsa rally.
    "The kind of dunking on people after they die of COVID is pretty gross," Shapiro told listeners.
    foxnews.com/media/ben-shapiro-herman-cain-death-trump-coronavirus



    Related

    Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt tests positive for coronavirus

    As of Tuesday, Oklahoma had 20,245 confirmed cases of coronavirus and 441 deaths from Covid-19, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.Stitt’s diagnosis came several weeks after President Donald Trump held a controversial campaign rally in Tulsa, where Stitt was photographed without a mask alongside thousands of the president’s supporters all in proximity, despite warnings from local health officials that the event could lead to a surge in Covid-19 transmission.
    cnbc.com/2020/07/15/oklahoma-gov-kevin-stitt-tests-positive-for-coronavirus.html

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