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    By below formula, how much Israeli land inside 67 borders Palestinians can claim for the 2000 plus Palestinian children, teens, women, men Israel killed in last few weeks in the Israel-Gaza "war"?
    And what led Obama to go from "does not want to see even one cement mixer in the West Bank" stance in 2009 to remaining completely quiet/giving more aid/weapons to Israel in 2014 when the largest Israeli settlement expansion in 30 years is announced? What changed between 2009 and 2014? Did the infamous Andrew Adler editorial in 2012 play a role in such strikingly different reactions?


    2009:

    U.S.-Israeli relationship takes new direction
    By Jeffrey Heller
    JERUSALEM Tue Jun 2, 2009
    "The president doesn't want to see even one cement mixer in the West Bank," an Israeli political source, briefed by Netanyahu aides, quoted U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell telling an Israeli delegation that met him in London last week.
    Possible scenarios for twisting Netanyahu's arm could range from U.S. inaction at the United Nations in thwarting resolutions critical of Israel to choking off some military supplies, political sources and commentators said.
    "Delaying the shipment of spares for the Apaches can ground the air force," political columnist Ben Caspit wrote in Maariv, referring to Israel's U.S.-made attack helicopters.
    "The replenishment of ammunition and weapons supplies in the event of another expected conflagration in the Gaza Strip or Lebanon is a matter of American goodwill," Caspit said.
    Few expect Washington ever to go as far as to hurt Israel's defences, but it does have other diplomatic pressure points.
    http://in.reuters.com/article/2009/0...40040020090602



    2012:

    Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama
    Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012
    John Cook reports at Gawker:
    Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!
    Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here):

    Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
    Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
    Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
    You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.





    2014:

    'Anyone You See, You Shoot': Israeli Soldiers Recall the 2014 Gaza War
    The Nation.‎
    Estimates of the Protective Edge casualty count vary somewhat, but they generally range around 2,100–2,200 Palestinians killed, largely civilians, against 73 Israeli fatalities, 67 of them soldiers. An additional 11,000 Palestinians were wounded during Protective Edge, and almost 500,000 were forced out of their homes.




    Mike Carlton resigns due to intense pressure following SMH article on Gaza war

    Carlton said the decision to suspend him came from Fairfax business and metro publisher
    Sean Aylmer, who overruled Sydney Morning Herald editor-in-chief Darren Goodsir.
    Goodsir wanted to suspend Carlton for four to six weeks after the abusive reports surfaced
    in The Australian.
    “They said they want to suspend me for four to six weeks to “consider”... but I said “don’t
    bother I’m resigning. I hung up on them,” Carlton told the Daily Mail Australia.
    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/tra..._newscomau.pdf


    Obama: Israel has right to defend itself
    The Jerusalem Post
    Jul 19, 2014 - International community voices concern over increasing civilian casualties in Gaza.


    Israel appropriates massive tract of West Bank land
    Move comes in wake of kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens; intention is to build a large settlement, Gvaot, between the Etzion settlement bloc and Jerusalem.
    By Chaim Levinson | Aug. 31, 2014
    Outpost Watch: Obama's future minefield - and Netanyahu'sBy Bradley Burston | Jun. 22, 2009
    Israel planning mass expansion of West Bank settlement bloc
    By Akiva Eldar | Feb. 27, 2009 | 1:26 AM
    The appropriation of 3,799 dunams (988 acres) of West Bank land between the Etzion settlement bloc and Jerusalem was announced on Sunday by the Israel Defense Forces' Civil Administration.
    The appropriation was decided on by the cabinet last week as a response to the kidnapping and killing of three Jewish teens by Hamas militants in the area in June, according to the administration's announcement.
    Anti-settlement group Peace Now said it was the largest land appropriation in 30 years.
    The intention of appropriating the land is to create territorial continuity between the Green Line and settlements of Beitar Illit, Kfar Etzion, and Gvaot.
    The appropriated land belongs to five Palestinian villages in the Bethlehem area: Jaba, Surif, Wadi Fukin, Husan and Nahalin.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.613319


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    Netanyahu promises no Palestinian state if he is re-elected

    MSNBC
    Mar 16, 2015 - With less than a day until Israel's election, Prime Minister vowed on Monday that there will be no Palestinian state if he is re-elected .

    France hopes U.S. won't stand in way of two-state resolution
    The Associated Press | Mar. 31, 2015

    U.S. pressing France to postpone UN resolution on Palestine
    By Barak Ravid | Apr. 29, 2015




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    Everyone else in the free world just calls it Real Estate. I don't get the whole "settlement" thingamabob.

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    Israelis stealing more land, eh?

    Just read the WIKILEAKS 'Kissinger Cables" from the US embassy out of Tel Aviv... you'll get the complete picture of their objectives set from the very beginning.
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    It's because the zionists have gone completely off the reservation. If Obama forbid it and they did it anyway, he appears weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It's because the zionists have gone completely off the reservation. If Obama forbid it and they did it anyway, he appears weak.
    Cats/plants out of the bag?


    U.S., Britain, Australia won’t support Palestinian bid for statehood at UN

    Palestinian delegation in N.Y. continues to canvass members of Security Council; China, Russia and Jordan are on board with resolution pressing to end occupation, sources say.

    By Jack Khoury | Sep. 29, 2014 | 1:37 AM | 23


    PA President Mahmoud Abbas speaking at the 69th United Nations General Assembly in New York City on Friday. Photo by AFP



    Palestinian sources say members of Mahmoud Abbas’ delegation to the UN General Assembly in New York have received definitive “noes” from the United States, Britain and Australia regarding a proposed Security Council resolution setting a timetable for ending Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and establishing an independent Palestinian state on the 1967 borders.
    The officials have met with envoys from all 15 member-states of the United Nations body in the past few days in order to gauge the response such a resolution could expect. China and Russia, as well as together with rotating member Jordan, told the Palestinians they would support such a resolution. The other 15 states did not give a definitive answer.
    Senior members of the delegation told Haaretz that most of the countries expressed understanding for the move and recognition of the difficult situation of the Palestinians in light of Operation Protective Edge and the suspension of negotiations with Israel. They said some representatives requested more time before making their stances public.
    “Our main aim at this point is to get a majority of nine,” one of the officials said. “Even if in the end the Americans use their veto, it will put the Palestinian position in a much better place for taking other steps, like approaching the General Assembly and international organizations.” All substantive Security Council draft resolutions must have the agreement of all members in order to be adopted. Any of the five permanent members of the body — China, France, Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom — can use its veto power to reject a substantive resolution.
    As of Sunday, the Palestinians were continuing to canvas Security Council members in search of a majority, knowing that its value would be chiefly symbolic.
    Palestinian officials say the United States has been pressuring Arab states to recommend that the Palestinian proposal be delayed for a few months.
    “We’ve heard comments in the corridors urging us to postpone [the resolution] for various reasons, like it will undermine the war against Islamic terror or affect the mid-term elections [in the United States],” a source told Haaretz. “That’s why [Abbas] is working to convene the Arab group and hear them declare that they support the [Palestinian] move, so as to blunt the American pressure.”
    Palestinian presidential spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeineh said a U.S. veto of the resolution in the Security Council would serve neither the Americans nor “the war on terror that the United States is leading – because in such a situation the administration will stand against justice and international law, and most countries in the world that have already recognized a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders. The United States will place itself in opposition to the nations of the world, and especially the Arab countries that are cooperating with it in the war on terror.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...medium=twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Everyone else in the free world just calls it Real Estate. I don't get the whole "settlement" thingamabob.
    Real Estate is traded by deed and contract between consenting parties.

    Settlement is eminent domained from a sovereign albiet occupied State, by an occupying force and then sold to settling "citizens" of the occupation.

    Real Estate transfers usually involve a realtor and a lawyer

    Settlement transfers often involve one of these:


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