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    Top-neocon reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’

    Some good news for our closest ally and only democracy in mideast. Also more evidence that MAGA is moving ahead with synergetic goals of putting both America-First and Israel-First in 3D chess with foreign lobbies and their financiers:






    Expert reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’

    But on January 30, in the aftermath of his discussion on the Wall Street Journal column with Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, Pipes wrote that Trump is “the most pro-Israel president ever".

    By Meyer Shimon
    February 3, 2019 20:39

    US President Donald Trump pauses as he addresses the 73rd session of the United Nations General Assembly at UN headquarters in New York, September 25, 2018. (photo credit: CARLO ALLEGRI/REUTERS)

    A week after raising doubts on President Donald Trump’s “deal of the century” to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a leading Mideast policy expert reversed course and affirmed Trump as “the most pro-Israel president ever.”

    Daniel Pipes, founder and president of the Philadelphia-based Middle East Forum think tank, had written in a January 23 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal that although the specific details of Trump’s peace plan have not been publicly revealed, recent hints indicate that the proposal “doesn’t sound good.”

    But on January 30, in the aftermath of his discussion on the Wall Street Journal column with U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, Pipes wrote on Twitter that that Trump is “the most pro-Israel president ever.”

    “In particular, the president bucked conventional thinking and made overdue changes by: Withdrawing from the disastrous Iran deal; moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, carrying out a law on the books since 1996; obstructing efforts at the United Nations to delegitimize Israel; accepting Israeli acts of legitimate self-defense; encouraging Arab countries to cooperate with Israel; cutting funds for the Palestinian Authority and UNRWA, including active support for the Taylor Force Act,” Pipes tweeted. “I hope for a continuation of this positive record despite my known concerns.”

    Others have shared Pipes assessment of President Trump’s record on Israel.

    “We’ve seen President Trump implement a pro-Israel agenda that goes beyond the historic diplomatic, intelligence and defense cooperation of our strong and very important strategic alliance with Israel,” said Matt Brooks, the Head of the Republican Jewish Coalition in a statement last spring.

    jpost.com/Opinion/Expert-reverses-course-says-Trumps-most-pro-Israel-president-ever-579570






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    The New York Times is out again this morning and the newspaper that so tarnished its reputation by drumming the march to war in Iraq 17 years ago hasn’t learned its lessons. The scorecard on the paper’s offerings on Iran today is miserable:
    — Zero reporting/skepticism about the actual facts of the attacks on tankers and other U.S. provocations.
    — An “analysis” that makes it seem like “hardliners on both sides” want increased confrontation, even war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump says he agrees '100%' with keeping U.S. troops in Syria

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...troops-n979466

    In December he said he wanted all US troops out in 30 days- declaring ISIS had been defeated.
    Granted he did promise immediate Syria withdrawl recently, perhaps folks should be bit more understanding when a course correction or even flip flop happens occasionally. Earlier some zealous hard right conservatives quickly jumped to conclusions and started calling 'America First' movement leader a 'fraud', 'scam', 'puppet' etc on first signs of some policy adjustments relative to pre-election promises.

    Not a big fan of all of his foreign policies but do purists & isolationists have any idea what kind of pressures (from donors, foreign lobbies, special interest groups etc) a POTUS has to face when making final decisions on important wars/global interventions/foreign spending issues that have far reaching implications for our closest allies and our domestic businesses & national interests?
    Sometimes political chess board is too complex for average voter to grasp the whole situation by just taking a two dimensional look at promises vs delivered policies metric.

    From another discussion for detailed context on US Iran/Syria policy:


    Wesley Clark on Trump’s Syria withdrawal: ‘Did Erdogan blackmail the president?'
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    Considering MAGA's fealess personality, Scaramucci's assessment seems more credible than Gen Clark's:
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    Also, despite Gen Clark's comments, any nefarious foreign lobbies/groups are very unlikely to use any tactics to initimidate or pressure MAGA using such tactics as may have been used to pressure other politicians with aim to influence US foreign policy in the past.


    Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama over US Iran policy
    Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012

    John Cook reports at Gawker:
    Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!
    Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here):

    Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
    Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
    Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
    You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.





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    The current minister, Yuval Steinitz, is at the forefront of Israeli officials expressing “concern” tonight at the new US war on ISIS, which they see as potentially getting in the way of long-term US hostility toward Iran.

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    I can't see how it makes sense to align our Country
    with War Criminals (Israel's Crimes / UN Humanitarian Groups).
    A thieving regime that licks our hand today will surely take
    huge bites out of it tomorrow.

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    Despite what some here may think, being pro-Israel and being non-interventionist are not mutually exclusive positions. There are ways that Israel would benefit from ending its own entangling alliances, including the one it has with the US. Ron Paul often pointed this out in his campaigns.

    For example, I see nothing wrong with most of what Pipes lists here. He may be a neoconservative (I'm not familiar with him), but this list of items is not a neoconservative platform in itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    “In particular, the president bucked conventional thinking and made overdue changes by: Withdrawing from the disastrous Iran deal; moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, carrying out a law on the books since 1996; obstructing efforts at the United Nations to delegitimize Israel; accepting Israeli acts of legitimate self-defense; encouraging Arab countries to cooperate with Israel; cutting funds for the Palestinian Authority and UNRWA, including active support for the Taylor Force Act,” Pipes tweeted. “I hope for a continuation of this positive record despite my known concerns.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I can't see how it makes sense to align our Country
    with War Criminals (Israel's Crimes / UN Humanitarian Groups).
    Lobbying efforts at UN to support our closest ally apparently has been one of top priorities of MAGA regime since day one in office.. or even before that:


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    http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...e-house-729290



    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Despite what some here may think, being pro-Israel and being non-interventionist are not mutually exclusive positions. There are ways that Israel would benefit from ending its own entangling alliances, including the one it has with the US. Ron Paul often pointed this out in his campaigns.

    For example, I see nothing wrong with most of what Pipes lists here. He may be a neoconservative (I'm not familiar with him), but this list of items is not a neoconservative platform in itself.
    What he listed above was sort of sanitized version of policy advocacy of school of thought like his.

    Top neocon Daniel Pipes: Obama can save his presidency by bombing Iran


    But within pro-Israel/anti-Iran neoconservatives, you could say he's relatively a "moderate" compared to extremist fringes like this:


    Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama
    Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012

    John Cook reports at Gawker:
    Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!
    Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here):

    Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
    Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
    Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
    You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.









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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Lobbying efforts at UN to support our closest ally apparently has been one of top priorities of MAGA regime since day one in office.. or even before that:

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    http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...e-house-729290

    What he listed above was sort of sanitized version of policy advocacy of school of thought like his.

    Top neocon Daniel Pipes: Obama can save his presidency by bombing Iran
    ...
    'Policies' don't seem to be making progress, to be perfectly fair, all things considered,
    if I was 'Israel' , (they get along with no one),
    I would start looking to for a large continent that could provide physical separation ,
    close proximity with anyone is just not working for them.
    This would be supportive of their narcissistic, self inclusive, racist, dominating goals,
    Muslims could benefit by adopting the same strategy.

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    ''You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to enhanced_deficit again.''

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    Well large continent might not have same real estate value as 'holy lands' and promising prospects for oil discovery. Have not validated such claims but had read somewhere that thousands of years old 'Promise land' drive picked up pace sharply after discovery of Oil in mideast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    'Policies' don't seem to be making progress, to be perfectly fair, all things considered,
    if I was 'Israel' , (they get along with no one),
    I would start looking to for a large continent that could provide physical separation ,
    close proximity with anyone is just not working for them.
    This would be supportive of their narcissistic, self inclusive, racist, dominating goals,
    Muslims could benefit by adopting the same strategy.
    Australia had better watch out.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    More than 1,000 Palestinians in Gaza have bone infections after being shot by Israeli forces


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    I would prefer having a president that is neutral when it comes to Israel.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Despite what some here may think, being pro-Israel and being non-interventionist are not mutually exclusive positions. There are ways that Israel would benefit from ending its own entangling alliances, including the one it has with the US. Ron Paul often pointed this out in his campaigns.

    For example, I see nothing wrong with most of what Pipes lists here. He may be a neoconservative (I'm not familiar with him), but this list of items is not a neoconservative platform in itself.
    When you say "pro Israel" what do you mean? Just kind thoughts in the abstract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I would prefer having a president that is neutral when it comes to Israel.
    Trump ran on being neutral when it comes with Israeli/Palestinian affair. We all know how that worked it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Despite what some here may think, being pro-Israel and being non-interventionist are not mutually exclusive positions. There are ways that Israel would benefit from ending its own entangling alliances, including the one it has with the US. Ron Paul often pointed this out in his campaigns.

    For example, I see nothing wrong with most of what Pipes lists here. He may be a neoconservative (I'm not familiar with him), but this list of items is not a neoconservative platform in itself.
    Its true, being pro a country that is warmongering, expansionist, welfare receiving, thieving ...... etc etc doesnt automatically make you an interventionist but its will be hard to stay that way if plan on continuing to be a good friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Its true, being pro a country that is warmongering, expansionist, welfare receiving, thieving ...... etc etc doesnt automatically makw you an interventionist but its will be hard to stay that way if are going to be a good friend.
    What if you fund that aggressive states military to the tune of 3.2 billion dollars a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    What if you fund that aggressive states military to the tune of 3.2 billion dollars a year?
    You make a good point. Maybe we can claim ignorance on this. We don't give money but try not to micromanage your friend. That is one way hi oh can get away with it.

    Seriously, I care not how they plan on doing it, Israel has done enough crap to the US and her neighbour's for the US to take back their friendship. I don't see where in the constitution that says we have to be friend with anyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You make a good point. Maybe we can claim ignorance on this. We don't give money but try not to micromanage your friend. That is one way hi oh can get away with it.

    Seriously, I care not how they plan on doing it, Israel has done enough crap to the US and her neighbour's for the US to take back their friendship. I don't see where in the constitution that says we have to be friend with anyone.
    Friendship? The relationship between Israel and the United States isn't friendly. A friend, for example, doesn't steal nuclear material to build atomic weapons. Americans don't have any friends, not even amongst ourselves it seems.

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    Friendship can be a loaded term but they are certainly widely accepted as our closest ally in the world behind Saudi and UK perhaps.
    In case you were implying they are a parasitic ally, that's a different topic but is debatable.

  22. #19
    Another bold but controversial move:



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    By Jesse Singal
    A protest outside the Trump hotel in Washington, D.C., last year. Photo: Gili Getz

    For a long time, some pro-Israel activists and lawmakers have been pushing a deeply authoritarian idea: using the power of the American state to punish those who take part in the so-called Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement. BDS, as it’s known, spans a variety of efforts to pressure Israel to end its occupation of Palestinian territory and to treat Palestinian residents of Israel and the territories better.

    As a constitutional matter, the problems with this couldn’t be more obvious: Americans have an ironclad right to protest against any country they want, for any reason they want, however they want, without the government interfering. There are some very narrow, very specific exceptions — you obviously can’t burn down a synagogue because you’re so upset at Israel — but as a general rule, the government really can’t regulate this sort of speech. That hasn’t stopped lawmakers, apparently unconcerned about such matters, from trying to pass legislation effectively outlawing certain types of activism. In 2017, for example, almost 300 members of the House and Senate co-sponsored bills that would have made certain boycotts of Israel a federal felony.

    Some states have gotten in on the act, too. Texas’ dabbling in this sort of legislation led to some genuinely ugly results: “A children’s speech pathologist who has worked for the last nine years with developmentally disabled, autistic, and speech-impaired elementary-school students in Austin, Texas, has been told that she can no longer work with the public school district,” wrote Glenn Greenwald in 2018, “after she refused to sign an oath vowing that she ‘does not’ and ‘will not’ engage in a boycott of Israel or ‘otherwise tak[e] any action that is intended to inflict economic harm’ on that foreign nation.” (For those keeping track at home, yes, a state tightly associated with hands-off-my-guns anti-government conservatism passed a law attempting to force its employees to sign a document restricting their ability to criticize another country.) She sued, and, unsurprisingly, the courts weren’t having the law.

    A separate but related effort has involved a State Department definition of “anti-Semitism” that, as I wrote in 2016, is both vague and overly broad: It “describes as ‘anti-Semitic’ holding Israel to a double standard, demonizing it to an undue extent for the state of the world, and a wide variety of other sorts of speech that, yes, may be anti-Semitic in a given context, but which are undoubtedly protected by the First Amendment.” For a long time, some lawmakers have attempted to pass legislation which would empower the Department of Education to crack down on campus activity that runs afoul of this standard. They’ve failed, in part because many believe such a law would be unconstitutional — an argument the nonpartisan, free-speech-focused Foundation for Individual Rights in Education has made.

    Now, according to the New York Times, President Donald Trump has resurrected this idea in the form of an executive order he plans on signing later today: “In signing the order, Mr. Trump will use his executive power to take action where Congress has not, essentially replicating bipartisan legislation that has stalled on Capitol Hill for years.”
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    However, perceptions borne out of such moves could play into the hands of far right extremists that made headlines recently and further fan conspiracy theories popular among some segments of right wing and had lately resurfaced after reported suicide of alleged Israeli spy/politicians blackmailer Jeffrey Epstein.



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    Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama over US Iran policy
    Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012




  23. #20
    Source is 'Deep State' but does not appear to be 'Deep Neocons' linked, read with grains of salt:



    How secret Israeli attacks in Iraq are driving Trump’s anti-Iran campaign


    Trump's attention on Iran is more "obsession than strategy"

    Jefferson Morley
    August 19, 2019

    This article was produced by the Deep State, a project of the Independent Media Institute.

    President Trump’s policy of “maximum pressure” on Iran, notes former CIA analyst Paul Pillar, is more obsession than strategy, and a not-so-mysterious explosion on the outskirts of Baghdad Monday shows why.

    Iraqi political analysts are blaming the attack on Israel, saying it follows two attacks earlier this month on facilities of Iranian-backed militias in Iraq. According to an Israeli news report, Israel launched the two attacks with U.S.-made F-35 jets.

    Israel has long attacked Iranian-backed forces in Syria, an enemy of the United States. Now Israel has expanded its scope of operations to attack targets in Iraq, whose coalition government is friendly to the United States. The predictable result: the Iraqi government is bailing on Trump’s policy.

    The dynamic exposes two underappreciated realities of Trump’s Iran obsession: Any U.S. war on Iran will ignite war in Iraq, and U.S. credibility is visibly faltering across the region. When things go wrong, a strategy can be rethought. An obsession can only ignore the warning signs.

    The U.S.-Saudi war in Yemen that was supposed to check Iran’s power is now in disarray. The bloody war that Trump continued, over the bipartisan congressional objections, has generated the world’s worst humanitarian crisis, and it is farther than ever from success.

    The U.S.-backed Yemen war is losing allies, even among the Persian Gulf states that fear Iran. First, the United Arab Emirates announced it is now bailing out of the Yemen war effort. Then, separatist Yemeni forces, backed by the UAE, took the southern port city of Aden from the Saudi-backed forces. Saudi Arabia is now fighting another war in Yemen that has nothing to do with Iran. It’s a maximum mess.

    In Europe, no government has joined Trump’s anti-Iran crusade (though John Bolton is whispering in the ear of the new Trump-loving prime minister, Boris Johnson.) Last month Germany refused to join a U.S.-led naval mission to the Persian Gulf aimed at deterring Iranian attacks, saying everything should be done to avoid escalation sought by Washington.

    When it comes to “maximum pressure,” the international reaction is: “include me out” — except in Israel, and therein lies the danger for the U.S. government and the American people. Israel has a vested interest in escalation, not de-escalation, with Iran.

    salon.com/2019/08/19/how-secret-israeli-attacks-in-iraq-are-driving-trumps-anti-iran-campaign_partner/



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