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    Top-neocon reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’

    Some good news for our closest ally and only democracy in mideast. Also more evidence that MAGA is moving ahead with synergetic goals of putting both America-First and Israel-First in 3D chess with foreign lobbies and their financiers:






    Expert reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’

    But on January 30, in the aftermath of his discussion on the Wall Street Journal column with Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, Pipes wrote that Trump is “the most pro-Israel president ever".

    By Meyer Shimon
    February 3, 2019 20:39

    US President Donald Trump pauses as he addresses the 73rd session of the United Nations General Assembly at UN headquarters in New York, September 25, 2018. (photo credit: CARLO ALLEGRI/REUTERS)

    A week after raising doubts on President Donald Trump’s “deal of the century” to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a leading Mideast policy expert reversed course and affirmed Trump as “the most pro-Israel president ever.”

    Daniel Pipes, founder and president of the Philadelphia-based Middle East Forum think tank, had written in a January 23 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal that although the specific details of Trump’s peace plan have not been publicly revealed, recent hints indicate that the proposal “doesn’t sound good.”

    But on January 30, in the aftermath of his discussion on the Wall Street Journal column with U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, Pipes wrote on Twitter that that Trump is “the most pro-Israel president ever.”

    “In particular, the president bucked conventional thinking and made overdue changes by: Withdrawing from the disastrous Iran deal; moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, carrying out a law on the books since 1996; obstructing efforts at the United Nations to delegitimize Israel; accepting Israeli acts of legitimate self-defense; encouraging Arab countries to cooperate with Israel; cutting funds for the Palestinian Authority and UNRWA, including active support for the Taylor Force Act,” Pipes tweeted. “I hope for a continuation of this positive record despite my known concerns.”

    Others have shared Pipes assessment of President Trump’s record on Israel.

    “We’ve seen President Trump implement a pro-Israel agenda that goes beyond the historic diplomatic, intelligence and defense cooperation of our strong and very important strategic alliance with Israel,” said Matt Brooks, the Head of the Republican Jewish Coalition in a statement last spring.

    https:// www. jpost .com/Opinion/Expert-reverses-course-says-Trumps-most-pro-Israel-president-ever-579570






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    I can't see how it makes sense to align our Country
    with War Criminals (Israel's Crimes / UN Humanitarian Groups).
    A thieving regime that licks our hand today will surely take
    huge bites out of it tomorrow.

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    Despite what some here may think, being pro-Israel and being non-interventionist are not mutually exclusive positions. There are ways that Israel would benefit from ending its own entangling alliances, including the one it has with the US. Ron Paul often pointed this out in his campaigns.

    For example, I see nothing wrong with most of what Pipes lists here. He may be a neoconservative (I'm not familiar with him), but this list of items is not a neoconservative platform in itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    “In particular, the president bucked conventional thinking and made overdue changes by: Withdrawing from the disastrous Iran deal; moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, carrying out a law on the books since 1996; obstructing efforts at the United Nations to delegitimize Israel; accepting Israeli acts of legitimate self-defense; encouraging Arab countries to cooperate with Israel; cutting funds for the Palestinian Authority and UNRWA, including active support for the Taylor Force Act,” Pipes tweeted. “I hope for a continuation of this positive record despite my known concerns.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I can't see how it makes sense to align our Country
    with War Criminals (Israel's Crimes / UN Humanitarian Groups).
    Lobbying efforts at UN to support our closest ally apparently has been one of top priorities of MAGA regime since day one in office.. or even before that:


    UN resolution against Israeli settlements at center of Flynn guilty plea


    • Mueller probing Kushner’s 2016 attempts to block UNSC settlement resolution
    • Ex-Trump adviser Flynn charged with lying to FBI in Russia probe


    December 1, 2017
    In the lead up to the anti-settlement resolution which angered Jerusalem, Trump’s team had urged the US to veto the resolution.
    Jerusalem Post

    Jared Kushner Failed to Disclose He Led a Foundation Funding Illegal Israeli Settlements Before U.N. Vote
    12/3/17
    http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...e-house-729290



    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Despite what some here may think, being pro-Israel and being non-interventionist are not mutually exclusive positions. There are ways that Israel would benefit from ending its own entangling alliances, including the one it has with the US. Ron Paul often pointed this out in his campaigns.

    For example, I see nothing wrong with most of what Pipes lists here. He may be a neoconservative (I'm not familiar with him), but this list of items is not a neoconservative platform in itself.
    What he listed above was sort of sanitized version of policy advocacy of school of thought like his.

    Top neocon Daniel Pipes: Obama can save his presidency by bombing Iran


    But within pro-Israel/anti-Iran neoconservatives, you could say he's relatively a "moderate" compared to extremist fringes like this:


    Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama
    Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012

    John Cook reports at Gawker:
    Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!
    Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here):

    Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
    Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
    Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
    You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.









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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Lobbying efforts at UN to support our closest ally apparently has been one of top priorities of MAGA regime since day one in office.. or even before that:

    UN resolution against Israeli settlements at center of Flynn guilty plea
    Mueller probing Kushner’s 2016 attempts to block UNSC settlement resolution
    Ex-Trump adviser Flynn charged with lying to FBI in Russia probe

    December 1, 2017
    In the lead up to the anti-settlement resolution which angered Jerusalem, Trump’s team had urged the US to veto the resolution.
    Jerusalem Post

    Jared Kushner Failed to Disclose He Led a Foundation Funding Illegal Israeli Settlements Before U.N. Vote
    12/3/17
    http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...e-house-729290

    What he listed above was sort of sanitized version of policy advocacy of school of thought like his.

    Top neocon Daniel Pipes: Obama can save his presidency by bombing Iran
    ...
    'Policies' don't seem to be making progress, to be perfectly fair, all things considered,
    if I was 'Israel' , (they get along with no one),
    I would start looking to for a large continent that could provide physical separation ,
    close proximity with anyone is just not working for them.
    This would be supportive of their narcissistic, self inclusive, racist, dominating goals,
    Muslims could benefit by adopting the same strategy.

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    ''You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to enhanced_deficit again.''



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