Trump + NRA to discuss banning the 2A for those on the "list".

[unknown]

Trump to meet with NRA about banning gun sales for terror watch list.

Donald Trump will meet with the National Rifle Association to discuss preventing people on the terror watch list or no-fly list from buying guns, he announced Wednesday.

“I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns,” Trump tweeted Wednesday.

Should come as no surprise.

Despite his recent rhetoric Trump has said he supported the AWB and has criticized the NRA.

[CPUd]

How do we find out if we are on the list?

[unknown]

How do we find out if we are on the list?

Ron Paul supporters = on the list.

[TheTexan]

How do we find out if we are on the list?

If you give me your name I'll be happy to check

[fedupinmo]

How do we find out if we are on the list?

Regularly buy firearms...

[brushfire]

How do we find out if we are on the list?

A warrant and due process? duhhh...

HA HA! Nnnnnot!

[fcreature]

Oh neat.

So now you won't even have due process when the government decides you shouldn't own a firearm. All they'll have to do is add you to a secret list. No oversight, no rules, no legislation, no charges, no accuser. Sounds like a great idea.

[CaptUSA]

Ok, so can we finally dispel the notion that Trump might protect the 2nd Amendment? I mean, he hasn't even won the office yet and he's already openly talking about increasing government power into this arena as well.

[EBounding]

Ok, so can we finally dispel the notion that Trump might protect the 2nd Amendment? I mean, he hasn't even won the office yet and he's already openly talking about increasing government power into this arena as well.

hey hey hey, he's just tricking the globalists. If anyone is on my side, it's going to be a billionaire Manhattan businessman.

[CaptUSA]

hey hey hey, he's just tricking the globalists. If anyone is on my side, it's going to be a billionaire Manhattan businessman.

Oh, right. I keep forgetting that.

[dean.engelhardt]

Lets ask the lobbyist if we can make or change a law!!!!!!

Can he ask lobbyist if we can start drinking raw milk/grow hemp/quit putting ethanol in gas/.......

[William Tell]

So, who here is still supporting this traitor?

[CPUd]

[misterx]

So, who here is still supporting this traitor?

He's better than Hillary.

[CaptUSA]

He's better than Hillary.

What evidence do you have to support that?! That's just nonsense.

[misterx]

What evidence do you have to support that?! That's just nonsense.

Empty, religious platitudes aside, there are many ways in which he is better that have been spelled out a hundred times on this forum. Unless you are really crazy enough to believe that the devil sent Hillary and Trump to lead us into his arms.

[acptulsa]

Empty, religious platitudes aside, there are many ways in which he is better that have been spelled out a hundred times on this forum. Unless you are really crazy enough to believe that the devil sent Hillary and Trump to lead us into his arms.

The good captain is not the only one in all the world who has read C.S. Lewis.

The tactic is well-known and valid, and has been used by the two major parties since before either of us was born. Trying to discredit it by attempting to say it has no validity outside of religion is goofy.

So, if Trump's position is the same as the NRA's, then...

...it doesn't reflect well on Trump, at least among those who actually pay attention to what the NRA does.

Gun Owners of America carries some actually credibility.

[jmdrake]

Empty, religious platitudes aside, there are many ways in which he is better that have been spelled out a hundred times on this forum. Unless you are really crazy enough to believe that the devil sent Hillary and Trump to lead us into his arms.

Bill Clinton encouraged both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to run for president. Bill Clinton = Satan.

[jmdrake]

What evidence do you have to support that?! That's just nonsense.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again.

[bunklocoempire]

He's better than Hillary.

"Hillary", is not the required qualifications for the position. The required qualifications have to do with a clear understanding of the 2A.

[Philmanoman]

He's better than Hillary.

See,this is why we think you Trump supporters are ignorant.
Someone else said in another thread "guarantee 100% he's better than Hillary"

These are fascinating claims to make with absolutely no evidence to back it up.(Oh wait my bad,other than he said some stuff)
I dont like Hillary even the slightest but I have a brain thats able to understand someone could be leaps and bounds worse than Hillary.

Should I have unwavering faith in the majority that they will avoid electing a monster worse than Hillary?

Ok maybe its not ignorant...maybe more of a severe lack of common sense.

[William Tell]

See,this is why we think you Trump supporters are ignorant.
Someone else said in another thread "guarantee 100% he's better than Hillary"

These are fascinating claims to make with absolutely no evidence to back it up.(Oh wait my bad,other than he said some stuff)
I dont like Hillary even the slightest but I have a brain thats able to understand someone could be leaps and bounds worse than Hillary.

Should I have unwavering faith in the majority that they will avoid electing a monster worse than Hillary?

Ok maybe its not ignorant...maybe more of a severe lack of common sense.

Trump has an R after his name. So the thinking is his gun control will be more pro 2nd amendment. It is not logical but its all they have.

[openfire]

Trump and the NRA are both trying to destroy the 2nd amendment, yes.

Fair enough. I can respect that position. But I must say, that's the first time I've heard someone accuse the NRA of trying to destroy the 2nd.

[William Tell]

Fair enough. I can respect that position. But I must say, that's the first time I've heard someone accuse the NRA of trying to destroy the 2nd.

Lol nice edit. Of course I don't support a list like Hillary and Trump. This is RonPaulforums. Not the Democrat underground. Shall not be infringed.

[erowe1]

Fair enough. I can respect that position. But I must say, that's the first time I've heard someone accuse the NRA of trying to destroy the 2nd.

Seriously?

[openfire]

Seriously?

Yes. I was honestly unaware that there are a contingent of 2nd amendment advocates who believe that the NRA is trying to destroy the 2nd. Now I know.

[acptulsa]

Yes. I was honestly unaware that there are a contingent of 2nd amendment advocates who believe that the NRA is trying to destroy the 2nd. Now I know.

So who was it who opened that account you're using eight years ago?

[Anti Federalist]

Yes. I was honestly unaware that there are a contingent of 2nd amendment advocates who believe that the NRA is trying to destroy the 2nd. Now I know.

And you've been here since 2008?

Negotiate Rights Away.

[CPUd]

Sen. Chris Murphy is in the middle of a talking filibuster right now until Senators can come up with a "deal" for a gun control bill.

...
Murphy, a top gun-control advocate whose home state saw the massacre of 20 school children at Sandy Hook Elementary in 2012, launched the filibuster, and was immediately backed up by colleagues Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.). More Senate Democrats are expected to join the talk-a-thon throughout the day and night on Wednesday — the same day presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump is scheduled to meet with the National Rifle Association.

The NRA formally backed an approach favored by Senate Republicans that would allow a judge to arbitrate people who mistakenly end up on the terrorism watch list and want to buy guns, while Democrats prefer giving the Justice Department such authority. Both bills were voted down by the Senate last December.

"If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed," said Chris Cox, the executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action.

The blessing of the NRA may cause some Republicans to dig in behind Cornyn's proposal, and make it harder for any compromise with Democrats to pass muster.

...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...control-224369

[jmdrake]

This is a straight up betrayal of the 2nd amendment and its supporters by Donald Trump. And note, conspiracy theorist, former outspoken defender of the 2nd amendment and Trump sycophant Alex Jones will NOT cover this. Or if he does he will make excuses for it.

To put this in perspective, the first time I heard this proposal it was Barack Obama henchman Rahm Emanuel!

Please see:



And note, this video was in the Alex Jones film "The Obama Deception." Is he going to release a film called "The Trump Deception?" If so, will he star in his own film?

Oh yeah. And to all of the people here who are Donald Trump supporters who viciously attacking me for pointing out that Donald Trump couldn't be trusted because, among other things, back in 2000 Mr. Trump called for an assault weapons ban.....well I forgive you. Yes that includes you LibertyEagle. I forgive you. You don't even have to admit you were wrong.

And yes. We are totally screwed now because as untrustworthy as Trump is on gun control (and other things), Hillary Clinton can be trusted to be worse. I live in a state where the GOP could run Beavis and Butthead and still win so I can vote 3rd party (Gary Johnson at this point) with good conscience. But some of y'all were going hardcore Trump when there were other options such as Ted Cruz. Alex Jones was going hardcore Trump when Rand Paul was still in the race. I tell you what. Ted Cruz wouldn't be folding on gun control. "Oh but he flip flopped on the TPP." So freaking what? He ultimately voted against it and if we lose our gun rights who gives a crap about bad trade deals?

At this point I honestly don't care who wins in November. We are screwed. And some of the people on this forum helped screwed us. Again, you're forgiven. We all make mistakes. Trump is unwilling to ever admit to his mistakes. The question is are his supporters willing to admit their mistakes? And are they willing now to tell Mr. Trump in no uncertain terms at ever rally they attend "We REJECT your proposal to let gun rights be taken away without due process just because someone is suspected of possibly being a terrorist especially as there is no due process associated with the no fly list."

Seriously Trump supporters. Are you going to stand with us against this HORRIBLE idea being put forward by your dear leader? Because only you can stop him at this point. Call into Alex Jones. Call into Michael Savage. Call into any talk show host that has sold out to Donald Trump and say "Listen. If you don't want to be totally marginalized from here on out, come out HARD against this proposal by Donald Trump! I support Trump, but I reject gun control."

And again Trump supporters, you are forgiven.