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    Today, 08:29 AM
    "Oh, but Trump is against the TPP." :rolleyes:
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  • ProBlue33's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:06 AM
    I am all for less government, but I am not for no government, that's anarchy. Even Ron Paul has said give things back to the states so they can decide locally how they want to use the tax dollars they do take in, he has said get rid of federal taxation, not state taxation. If local states want to role back taxes and services and the people support that, then sure by all means. But interestingly they would either vote for that on a direct referendum or for political leaders that say they will implement that. Imagine a governement that said we eleminting all taxs, BUT ALL social programs are now gone too you are on your own. When you are young and healthy with a large family that is supportive that seems like a really good deal. But if you are 80 years old and have no family that is a terrible deal.
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    08-28-2016, 09:20 PM
    It's interesting how this thread started and where it went from there, but I know Ron Paul would not deny somebody the right to vote just because they were on some form of government aid, even he said programs would be grandfathered. And he had the most aggressive cuts I have ever seen lined up. If Ron couldn't sell it, nobody can, keep fantasizing about your economic model that will never happen.
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    08-28-2016, 06:23 PM
    That America doesn't' exist anymore, that would have worked when each person had there own family and 5 acres of land. Now that same 5 acres has condo's and apartments with a 1000 people living on it, times have changed.
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    08-28-2016, 06:08 PM
    And that might work in a smaller town, but either I have to pay an independent garbage man directly or my property taxes and the local civic government looks after that for me. Can you imagine if a city like LA reverted to pay for your own garbage pick up, for $300 a year reduction in civil taxation.
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    08-28-2016, 05:50 PM
    Invading Iraq, paying for Abortions, the $900.00 toilet seat the military paid for, and the list goes on and on and on. I get it, but this notion of don't provide essential services to a city of 3 million people because there should be no local taxation is ludicrous. That might work out some place in the boondocks with a small population base like they did in the old west when there was no taxes, pre-WW1, but this is a different time and a different type of infrastructure that needs to be maintained. Something simple like garbage, we all seen what happens during a strike to the garbage in a big city. We can't go back to a 100% tax free existence if you live in a large modern city, it really is that simple. I would suggest you guys make your own new country where there no taxes, and everything is pay as you go, call the fireman, pay a $1000 bill. Every road is tolled to pay for the cost of using it. Oh and call 911 and there is a bill for the police coming. Pay $500 a year for garbage pick up too.
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    08-28-2016, 04:18 PM
    I hate taxes like everybody, but I realize there are some services I need to help pay for. For example I know I need to pay my property taxes so that the fire department can exist and put out fires in my area. How do you propose we pay for the essential services the modern city needs ? It can't be all volunteers, working for free that just isn't viable in this day and age. And even if you did get all volunteer labor, at some point you need to pay for expensive equipment like a firetruck. Some of you guys are just unrealistic in your expectations of how things should work in 2016. Of coarse all wasteful spending should be shut down, but that doesn't mean it's a zero spending budget.
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    08-28-2016, 01:19 PM
    No, maybe I am having difficulty comprehending somebody could be as unrealistic; and well as ignorant as you. You want to take the right to vote away from first responders and even their dependents, and the retired ones too, that's pure insanity. You have dug your idealogical hole for all to see in this thread.
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    08-28-2016, 01:09 PM
    That is a huge segment of the population civic, state and federal employee's some of which are to be considered essential services to modern civilizations. For example, are you really saying firemen, policemen and prison guards shouldn't be able to vote because the government pays them? Also these people also pay back into the system by paying state and federal taxes on what the government pays them as well, and they provide services that not every member of the population either wants to do or can do.
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    08-28-2016, 12:30 PM
    Just to be crystal clear, your saying they can't even vote for people that are against their best personal interests, like voting for Ron Paul ? Or are you saying they can't and shouldn't be able to vote for socialists like Sanders that will enhance their lives with programs ?
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    08-28-2016, 11:48 AM
    Interesting that means you actually think everybody who builds and operates weaponry that defends America, shouldn't be able to vote. That is a pretty wacky perspective. That means Ron Paul couldn't have even have voted when he was getting paid by the government to be a doctor.
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    08-28-2016, 11:35 AM
    That means you don't think these guys should be able to vote? Just to be very clear.
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    08-28-2016, 11:26 AM
    I don't blame them at all, these programs exist and they use them. My point is the people that pay for them and then don't have a voice in government, are angry in 2016, and Trump has spoken to that anger, he has poked it, it's like poking a wasps nest, the dormant wasps that where just chilling in the nest, are now flying around and active. And in this case they are going to vote, whereas before in their apathy they would have stayed home.
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    08-28-2016, 11:03 AM
    You know most of my life I have worked since I was 14, I am in my 40's now, more than once I have lost a job because the company and economy went bad. And for a few months, I used insurance that I had paid into my whole life, insurance the government takes off my gross pay every pay day, for me not to use it when I need it and PAID for it would be stupid, thus your statement is narrow minded and unrealistic.
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    08-28-2016, 09:29 AM
    I am not saying that, everybody should be able to vote and have their say no matter what economic status, what I am saying is that Americans that know they are footing the bill for America are very tired of being ignored, I think it's kind of obvious Trump has tapped into that frustration. It was that frustration that woke many of us to Ron Paul in the first place, he spoke of another way, a better way. And all of us here at RPF welcomed that message.
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    08-28-2016, 08:56 AM
    Antischism Anybody who works and makes a decent amount of money per year pays some taxs. Do you dispute that the map would look vastly different if you inputted these variables
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    08-28-2016, 08:06 AM
    It would seem that those that are actually footing the bill in America are being totally ignored. And they are sick of it.
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    08-26-2016, 06:53 AM
    And it's fair to say those people numerically vastly eclipse die hard Libertarians, I am talking about the ones that voted for Ron Paul in 1988. And will vote third party or not at all this election cycle.
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    08-26-2016, 06:40 AM
    I think this is pretty accurate they also said NH was a good example in the primaries all the counties that Ron Paul won in 2012, Trump won in 2016 The bolded part tells the tale, I consider myself one of those. I would be very interested to know what percentage of those 2 million voters voted for Trump in the primaries, and what percentage voted for Sanders of coarse it would be way less but in fully open primaries those numbers would be interesting, of coarse nobody knows.
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    08-25-2016, 07:48 AM
    Spin it all you want, Rand will support Trump because he knows with Trump in office he can get more stuff done in the Senate, even Trump at one point said Rand will be useful in the Senate, because after he dropped out the attacks stopped. Rand should have made a speech at the RNC not Cruz. And now to address the RPF crowd, Rand is in the political arena right now, he has to fight for what is right....Ron is not in the arena anymore, he is like a retired gladiator. So who's voice has more weight the guy actually in there getting bruised and cut by the new fighters, or the guy sitting at home remembering how it used to be when he fought the good fight. Rand addresses a very important point you can go and vote third party, but that won't stop Clinton, thus you aren't helping America RIGHT NOW, sending a message to make yourself feel better helps YOU, not America. So do you really stand with Rand ?
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    08-24-2016, 06:15 AM
    This is definitely a "must-see" video for everyone:
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    08-23-2016, 08:47 AM
    It's the same reasoning used to justify voting for the lesser of two evils. We hear it over and over during every Presidential election cycle. Donald Trump is evil, just as Hillary Clinton is evil. Nothing is going to change with either of them in the Oval Office, and even Dr. Ron Paul recognizes that.
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    08-22-2016, 08:23 AM
    Like phill4paul, I'm anti-Trump, too, but if Trump loses and we end up with Hillary as our next gun-grabbing President, then it will be the fault of the Republican Party and Republican voters who continue to tolerate, endorse, support, and vote for unprincipled, big-government candidates just so we don't end up with a stinking Democrat in the Oval Office. The GOP should have promoted Sen. Rand Paul when it had the chance because he would do far better against Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump can. And, of course, Sen. Paul has a much better record on gun rights than Donald Trump has.
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    08-21-2016, 06:28 AM
    Danke, I heard you got fired from a calendar factory for taking a day off.
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    08-21-2016, 06:14 AM
    I was writing down a joke with my pencil, when, suddenly, the tip broke. Then I realized there was no point to it.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    08-19-2016, 07:46 AM
    Well, if Trump loses, then blame the Republican Party for it. For years in these Presidential races, the leaders of the party (with the help of the mainstream media) have shunned, isolated, humiliated, lied, ignored, and ridiculed principled, moral candidates like Dr. Ron Paul and Sen. Rand Paul. Then when those candidates finally drop out of the race (to the GOP's delight), then conservatives are left with establishment-friendly, unprincipled, flip-flopping, egotistical, power-hungry candidates that are used to vote against the excrement that comes out of the donkey's ass on the Democratic side, always with the reasoning that if we don't vote for the Republican candidate, then a Democratic victory will spell the doom for us all. Thus, we always get enticed to vote for the lesser of two evils. So, you know what? If Trump loses, then we all deserve the consequences of it, especially the Republican Party. Don't expect me to vote for the Republican when the Republican Party does all it can to rid itself of statesmen who rightly deserve the title as "President of the United States," like Drs. Ron and Rand Paul, and then uses scare tactics to try to force the public that a Republican douchebag is now better than the Democratic douchebag. Enjoy your chains. You wear them well.
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  • ProBlue33's Avatar
    08-18-2016, 07:24 PM
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2016/08/13/app-maker---trump-win-election/88640044/ Interview https://soundcloud.com/jefferson-graham/will-donald-trump-really-win-zip-app-believes-so Very interesting.
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    08-18-2016, 06:28 PM
    It's interesting how perception works, because I watched all of Ron Pauls debates and many of his speeches from 2007 onward and his old ones too, he always wanted to put America first, not sending money overseas for wars and other things. He wanted to focus on America, get the debt down, get info-structure happening, let the states do what they need to do to be prosperous and free of federal garbage programs. He was for making America better, compared to making the whole world better, his ideology if America leads to be better other countries might try and follow. Now I always perceived pro-Americanism as a form of nationalism, from my world view Ron Paul is and has always been a libertarian nationalist, republican, placed in that level of priority 1st, 2nd & 3rd of his political identity. Some may view that different, but we wouldn't even be having this discussion in 2008, because it was Ron Paul verses a bunch of globalists neocons. Nobody even came close. Some will vehemently disagree with the following statement I know, it is truly a perception issue, but I think on some aspects of foreign policy Trump is closer to Ron than even Rand.
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    08-18-2016, 07:41 AM
    I wish Ron Paul would ask Donald Trump for an Interview, and make it exclusively on what his foreign policy would be as president. Anybody else here for Ron interviewing Trump ?
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