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    Yesterday, 07:03 PM
    Yup. Go back and look at my previous post. I looked up Kucinich's positions. Actually I'm going to go out on a limb and say the worst current republican is still better on issues of freedom than the best democrat! As long as you exclude John McCain. :rolleyes:
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    Yesterday, 06:32 PM
    Personally I feel that high, progressive taxation is the biggest loss of freedom and my guess is Kucinich wasn't too hot on that issue. What good is smoking weed if you're a slave? Maybe I'm wrong about him, I'll look it up tomorrow. Ok, I looked it up. It's not good. Believes health care is a right and supports universal health care. Wants to ban all handguns. Supports "free" education all the way thru college. Opposes free trade. Basically wants to take over farming. Favors a steeply progressive tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto.
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    Yesterday, 03:33 PM
    I don't know anything about Tulsi Gabbard, but wasn't Kucinich a hard core, almost Bernie Sanders like socialist? I know he had a couple of good traits, anti war, anti bank bailouts, but that's not much good if you're a socialist.
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    Yesterday, 03:12 PM
    As much as I can't stand republicans, democrats are a lot worse. If you disagree, name a few of the top freedom favoring republicans and then name a few of the top freedom favoring democrats. Rand Paul, Justin Amash, Thomas Massie. Your turn....
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    Yesterday, 03:08 PM
    I agree, now they'll just blame it on Trump. The thing that annoys me about socialist experiments like Venezuela, Zimbabwe, South Africa is that the media generally admits that all out socialism is bad but they can't see that it's also bad in smaller doses. Nationalizing corporations is bad but so is the minimum wage.
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    Yesterday, 02:37 PM
    So if there's no downside to QE why are you against it? Here's another question for you to ignore. What economic policies did Obama implement that created the "recovery"?
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    Yesterday, 02:32 PM
    Wrong. The effects of QE are not immediate and there's other forms of stimulus that are still ongoing like 1% rates, 1 trillion a year in borrowing, .5 trillion a year in trade deficits. I'll ask again. If QE has no downside, why were you against it? Or are you going to claim that the only effects of QE are immediate and negative? Therefore without the QE we would've had an even better recovery?
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    Yesterday, 02:17 PM
    Yes, depending on your definition of "worked". It artificially propped up stock prices and house prices among other things AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. But the problem is that there was no REAL growth. We didn't start building factories, producing stuff, running surpluses, paying down debt. It was temporary and the next crash will be worse than the last one. Suppose you lose your job (recession). If you then borrow money (QE) to buy a new house and car, take an expensive vacation, did it work? Also if there's no downside to QE, as you claim, why are you against it?
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    Yesterday, 01:49 PM
    Yes I know. That's what I wrote. But you're wrong. The recovery was not in spite of the Fed, it was BECAUSE of the Fed (and fed govt borrowing). The "recovery" was only due to government stimulus in the form of 3.5 trillion in QE, 10 trillion in borrowing, and about 4 trillion in trade deficits. And 3 years is nowhere near long enough to somehow disprove that, especially since the Fed hasn't even unwound anything! Rates are still basically at zero. The balance sheet is at an all time high of 4.5 trillion. The debt is at an all time high of 20 trillion. What could possibly go wrong?
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    Yesterday, 01:24 PM
    I agree. In my brain the idea of more "stuff" like food is easier to understand than "growing the pie" but I'm getting nit picky.
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    Yesterday, 01:18 PM
    Actually that kinda was his position and it actually makes sense when you think about it as a die hard supporter of the democratic party. The first round of QE was needed to repair the damage caused by Bush. After that additional QE was unnecessary because Obama's awesome economic policies made everything great. And since there's no downside to 15-20 trillion dollars in stimulus, when the economy crashes under Trump it will be all Trump's fault. If Zippy admitted that QE "works" in the short run but is a killer in the long run, he'd have to admit that the economic growth under Obama was phoney and at the expense of the future.
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    Yesterday, 01:11 PM
    Some of them, but I think most of them actually think socialism raises the standard of living for the poor.
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    Yesterday, 01:08 PM
    I don't really like the pie argument because it gives the impression that the amount of stuff produced is fixed.
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    Yesterday, 10:18 AM
    The common argument against capitalism is that the greedy rich hog everything for themselves and they don't leave anything for the poor. I think I have a pretty simple argument why this is not true. It should be pretty obvious that if you leave the producers alone (capitalism) you get more stuff. The more you burden them with taxes and regulations (socialism), the less stuff you are going to get. So if there's more stuff to go around, isn't it more likely that the poor are going to get more stuff also? Suppose under capitalism farmers grow 2 million tons of food, but under socialism and the resulting reduced incentive, farmers only grow 1 million tons of food. Isn't it more likely that most people will get fed with twice as much food to go around? Even if you don't force it to happen?
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    Yesterday, 10:08 AM
    I don't see how you can stop that without some serious limits on freedom of speech. I'd rather have free speech and live with the results.
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    Yesterday, 09:45 AM
    First off, the only reason they made the video is because the democrats lost. Second, as long as the Russians aren't hacking into the actual voting machines, who cares? As long as you are only trying to influence the voters and not the actuals votes that they cast, what's the problem?
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    Yesterday, 08:08 AM
    Do you have a link to that? Actually now that I think abut it, you may have said the benefits of additional QE are reduced, however I don't remember you arguing against more rounds. The more important point, however, is that you continuously claimed there was no downside to QE. That's where you are wrong.
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    Yesterday, 08:07 AM
    Maybe an alien took over Zippy's mind?
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    09-19-2017, 02:51 PM
    Meanwhile, not one single peep of news on the case. Nothing for more than 3 weeks and even that was just a paragraph saying the pre-trial was moved to Dec 15.
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    09-18-2017, 04:08 PM
    I agree. At some point the political pressure to stop inflation will outweigh the pressure to give out free stuff. Like I said before hopefully the inflation will increase slowly. My fear is that we get some sort of crazy hyper-hyperinflation due to the fact that it's so easy to unload your dollars electronically. For example if the dollar started dropping large holders of dollars, like the Chinese, might try to unload their dollars and buy assets like the stock market. I'm not predicting it but it makes me wonder if it's possible.
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    09-18-2017, 03:36 PM
    I agree. Printing money is the path of least resistance. They'll keep printing until the dollar fails. The best case scenario is that the dollar doesn't collapse too fast and the federal reserve has time to tighten. That'll put us in a depression but it's better than hyperinflation.
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    09-18-2017, 02:10 PM
    Where does North Korea get the money to afford those missiles? Maybe they'll go broke firing off test missiles.
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    09-18-2017, 12:01 PM
    We need to "ask" the "most fortunate" to pay their "fair share". Translated: We're going to force at gunpoint, the hardest working and most productive, to fork over almost the entire tax burden at much higher rates than the average citizen pays. Can you imagine if we had "special" laws for other minorities like we do for the most productive? What if white men had a 15% tax rate but black women had to pay 40%? How would that go over?
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    09-15-2017, 10:49 PM
    Raginfridus Hahaha, I love that game. Thanks.
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    09-14-2017, 05:39 PM
    Growing up as a Catholic (then later converting to Christianity) in suburban Middle America I was raised to believe that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. I recall my Baptist pastor once preaching that the United States was getting less and less Christian and as a result of no longer following Christian values (he brought up how Founding Fathers such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson adhered to them) this country was on a decline. He went on to preach that the strong endorsement of Christianity was preserved by elected Presidents (bringing up FDR and Reagan as examples of "Great Christian Presidents" since they openly endorsed Christianity and did not acknowledge Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, nor Obama because they weren't "Christian enough" I reckon) and that this country is declining and headed towards a collapse due to society and elected officials no longer adhering to the Christian values that previous generations in America did. That said, I do have a quote from Founding Father John Adams from Article 11 in the Treaty of Tripoli that says otherwise: “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp However, here is a quote from Supreme Court Justice Joseph back in 1892:
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    09-14-2017, 03:51 PM
    I hear many contradicting opinions in regards to this issue. Jefferson himself wrote the "Jeffersonian Bible". An edited version of The New Testament in which he removed the parts that he believed were superstition but still seemed to believe in the Christian doctrine, no? https://www.pbs.org/godinamerica/people/thomas-jefferson.html From the article: “Years later, Jefferson drew from the New Testaments in Greek, Latin, French and English to create The Life and Morals of Jesus, commonly known as the "Jefferson Bible." Based on this work, he acknowledged to a close friend, "I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus." For Jefferson, it was the moral message of Jesus, not claims of his birth, death and resurrection, that lay at the center of the Christian faith.” My philosophy professor brought up as an objection to one of my arguments that Thomas Jefferson probably wasn't a Christian. I argued that he was.
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    09-08-2017, 09:12 PM
    Madison320 replied to a thread Hurricane Irma in Open Discussion
    The Keys will get obliterated. But if the eye crosses into the everglades I'll bet you it's not as bad as Andrew, at least as far as catastrophic damage and deaths go. The total damage for Irma will be much higher because it will cover more area, and more "stuff", and prices are more inflated.
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    09-08-2017, 09:00 PM
    There's the entertainment value!
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    09-08-2017, 08:51 PM
    Madison320 replied to a thread Hurricane Irma in Open Discussion
    I lived in Orlando for 25 years and I always said if I had to move back to FL, it would be to the coast. By the way from what I remember when Andrew hit, it took most people by surprise. I think it strengthened rapidly and even then it "pulsed" as it hit land. I seem to remember they thought it was a cat 4 as it was hitting land but later they upgraded it to a cat 5. That was the worst wind damage I've seen from a hurricane.
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