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    Yesterday, 08:55 PM
    Statistics has gotten a bad rap because of ignorant people who don't understand what they are, as well as those who misuse them in deceitful ways. That's the deceitful misuse of the label "statistics" applied to something that is decidedly NOT statistical. Have you ever studied statistics? I would guess maybe not. Regardless, properly applied statistical methods show the incredible power in their ability to predict. I've seen it firsthand in my professional life more times than I could count. The operative term here is "properly applied". What you are complaining about is the aforementioned masquerade of bullshit as valid statistics. Your complaint is eminently valid. The only problem, so far as I can see, is that you are painting with too broad a brush. I will add that it can be difficult to know when something being presented as "stats" is valid vis-à-vis nonsense, whether intentionally done or through ignorance. I will add that there is another dimension to "statistical" thinking as a way of looking at the broader patterns that one may observe in the world. The understanding of basic distributions, as well as what is meant by the "mean", sigmas, standard deviation, z-scoring, and that sort of thing is extremely useful in understanding how large populations work. Understanding the mean and how it defines things is very helpful in understanding what one is looking at in the broader senses. You say you saw good stuff in the peace movement. I'm sure your experiences are valid, but I do not think your conclusions are quite right. If the peace movement was so wonderful, why then are we more warlike than ever? Hell, at least with WWII we can claim to have been attacked. From Korea onward, we have done little other than invade foreign lands and murder people by the millions. If the peace movement had been so great as you claim, I would have thought the American people would have taken the war machine by the balls and put it out of business for all considerations save those where the land was under direct attack. So perhaps I am misunderstanding something in your position that, were I to see the light, I would alter my view. If you can help me there, please give it a whirl.
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    Yesterday, 08:54 PM
    " reported receiving almost nine times as many individual donations from California than from Georgia ... Between March 29 and May 31, Ossoff reported receiving 7,218 donations from California, dwarfing the 808 donations he received from Georgia."
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    Yesterday, 07:20 PM
    And a Happy Birthday to Edward. Today is also his birthday.
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    Yesterday, 02:35 PM
    As for the jargon, I use it precisely because it describes the truth with accuracy and precision. Looking at the world and describing it in statistical terms, where appropriate, is the way one sees the truth of things and separates it from the noise. It is so very easy to be confused by noise, which is why I have dedicated some nontrivial portion of my life to discovering my methods of noiseless analysis. Confusion by noise can be demonstrated in countless billions of exchanges between human beings daily precisely because it is so common and the method of using statistical eyes can be so powerful when used properly. The statistical view doesn't apply to all situations, but those where large populations of people are in question, it oftentimes does and that is why I use it. My purpose in engaging in these conversations is not to show how smart I am - I am not terribly smart in fact - but because I like getting to the truth of matters I think important to the quality of our lives. I like giving examples of how to see through the bullshit that flies all around us - bullshit that obscures truth and keeps the vast and overwhelming majority of the people of this world impotently chasing their tails. I choose my methods because they work and I want to share them with everyone. Just as I have been able to see what others here have done in terms of their apparent analytic methods and add them to my own, everything I do here I offer for the world to make its own, for whatever they may be worth. Don't take anything I write here personally, because I don't offer it in the spirit of being mean. You think the peace movement was a wonderful thing. The idea of it is - on that you and I agree as I assume we do on the value of peaceable relations between all men. We depart where the notion ends and the subsurface realities underpinning the real-world events begin. This isn't about winning - at least not for me. It's about better understanding the world around us.
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    Yesterday, 09:42 AM
    True
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    Yesterday, 09:08 AM
    With all due respect to snowden, it's not my fav. interview. still nice to see em chat though
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    Yesterday, 09:06 AM
    The shit they're putting into those soft heads is a bigger problem.
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    06-20-2017, 08:17 PM
    Speaking only for myself, I am saying it describes the mean of the movement. It was the result. What difference does it make that you may have been off on one of the tails of the distribution? It means NOTHING. Why? Because it is the MEAN that defines what that movement is. The MEAN dictates the quality and character of the gestalt, which in turn leads to whatever outcomes are to be realized. Fliers like you are irrelevant, unless the Gaussian is so narrow that your qualities closely reflect those of the average man's. From what you have written, I deeply doubt that it was the case. I was there and I watched closely. Those people were simplistic thinkers, wholly incapable of squeezing out an original thought of their own, even if it was that they had to go take a crap. As for the smart(er) members of that movement, all I can say is that they both had no palpable effect on outcomes because the cows were running the slaughterhouse. So it appears. You seem to think great things happened. I am of a very different mind on that point. About the best thing to come out of that era was the music. No sane and decent man can argue against Jimi, and if they do, I will beat them with an iron bar. :) Interesting choice of words. Firstly, Nixon was a neurotic and a crook so no, I was not a fan.
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    06-20-2017, 07:14 PM
    Are you for real? AuH2O gave a very clear account of his points and all you have done is respond as if instead of "apples", he'd written "oranges". What brand of trollery is this? If he writes 'A', respond to 'A' instead of 'Z', which has no connection to 'A'.
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    06-20-2017, 04:58 PM
    We lost the war after you did.
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    06-20-2017, 04:54 PM
    last i heard a wide-area EMP requires a hydrogen bomb, and only the russians can field that. might be wrong though
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    06-20-2017, 02:58 PM
    If it had been a big problem I'd' have heard of it. More serious would be the US treatment of POWs, passed-on by word of mouth and James Bacque's "Other Losses"
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    06-20-2017, 02:44 PM
    I thought 'balochistan' was a fake country when i read the thread title
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    06-20-2017, 11:00 AM
    Agreed. We may call them "globalists".
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    06-19-2017, 11:49 PM
    Nicely done. Have to spread it around before I can give it to you again. Good God, that didn't quite come out sounding right. Some idiot is now going to think we're set to get married... perhaps in NY state. Ugh.
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    06-19-2017, 11:47 PM
    You read like a textbook communist here. I will not speak for him, but my read is that he is advocating for self defense, most likely against an implacable foe for whom the only response is to wipe them out because nothing less will remove the threat.
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    06-19-2017, 11:43 PM
    In some cases, I am sure it is. It is the nature of things where humans are concerned. People communicate like absolute crap these days, on average. Honestly, I am surprised they are able to order a pizza and manage not to have a low-yield nuke delivered. While we display manifold flaws, it is possible to train people to manifest fewer of them and in less egregious degree than commonly found. But that takes work, determination, smarts, self-control, courage, etc.: all qualities that act in opposition to the entropy that is our basic nature. Most people simply do not want to live their lives that way. Why bother when it is so much easier to be a slacker - to feed all the worst qualities in oneself, rather than oppose them in favor of those the better? Ugh... really? The "peace" movement was absolute nonsense; a gloablist contrivance pursuant to Theire goal of one-world government. How does one approach the objective of global dominion in a world where sovereignty is so very popular? War. Incite, invoke, and finance war on all sides such that all are threatened by it; all are drained by the losses personal, national, and financial. These things were all laid out in black and white by men like Nathan Rothschild, Jacob Schiff, and so forth. They have been exposed time after time over the past 200+ years. Theire dialectic is pure Hegel and what we see today meshes to it without flaw. I strongly suspect the "peace movement" was part of this lunacy. If it wasn't, then its rise, especially given the timing, constitutes one of the most impossible coincidences in all human history. Wear people down with enough war, so the theory goes, and they will submit to any tyranny that promises with a straight face peace and safety and no more dead children. What has transpired in the United States these past 50 years is textbook bolshevism at work. It could not fit the blueprint any more perfectly. If anyone wants to believe it is coincidental, then by all means go ahead, but I doubt it would be the right move. What leads you to believe this? What is the evidence? I am sure you are correct in some cases, but methinks you cast a bit too broad a net here, but perhaps I am mistaken.
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    06-19-2017, 05:33 PM
    I promise you that you and your wife are doing the greatest possible honor to your issue and that they will live to thank you for it. Krishnamurti:
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    06-19-2017, 05:17 PM
    No. What one needs study are the outcomes. Men have started movements which promptly took on lives of their own and left them in the dust, and even killed them at times. Results are all that matter. Intentions mean nothing and count for the same. Great intellects with valid messages count for nothing when the wad of humanity takes what they offer and mangles it into some ravaged, maimed thing wholly unrelated. That is what went on with the hippies. THAT is where the statistical mean fell and THAT is what counts. Great men are irrelevant when the mob mutates their ideas into stupidity that leads to evil results.
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    06-19-2017, 05:13 PM
    You infer things from my words that are not correct.
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    06-19-2017, 10:14 AM
    Great, nuanced discussion with valid points. One reason this forum rocks..
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    06-19-2017, 10:06 AM
    A nation with a functioning immune system would never have allowed this to happen. What or who disabled the immune system?
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    06-18-2017, 09:28 PM
    Secession is not going to happen. We are? Methinks you and I live in different worlds.
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    06-18-2017, 09:05 PM
    Nice theory, but I doubt it would work. Show me a state where the people might be saved, vis-à-vis the rest. New Hampshire? A den of liberal iniquity, the presence of a few thousand porcupines notwithstanding. Given the current mood, it appears that sufficient numbers of "liberals" in every state are gearing up for a physical fight. Secession would not prevent it, and if it would I would be 100% against it. As awful and perhaps insane as it may sound, this needs to happen because things cannot continue as they have. The left isn't going to give in, nor will the right. That leaves us in a situation where the two sides will not reconcile and the "left" will steadfastly refuse to live and let live. Where, pray tell, do you or does anyone else think this can lead, other than warfare of some form and degree? The left demands our capitulation and appear ready to go all the way to secure it. I, for one, have no intentions of giving in to them. That leaves the likes of us with a very clear choice: fight or fold. All else equal, that choice is inevitable. Barring fundamental changes in the conditions, it is my considered opinion that the sooner it happens, the better. To be quite frank, I am so wholly sick and tired of the tyrants who beset my freedom, and especially those who support and enable them, that I no longer care if even tens of millions of Americans die in the conflagration of a second civil war. Those who would see me shackled mean nothing to me. Their lives have no value to me, save that they be turned to fertilizer. Therefore, if they wish to openly call for my destruction, then I say bring it now because I am as ready as I will ever be. I will not fire the first shot, but if I have any say in the matter, I will fire the last.
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