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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Yeah, yeah. No options. Ride those lesser evils straight to hell.

    Don't look now, but Trump grows more milquetoast every day. DeSantis, meanwhile, seems to have figured out that he has nothing to lose by acknowledging reality (with a little help from a friend). He's a Republican and a respected sitting governor. How is he not an option? Consensus, that's how. Herd mentality. Can't get a stampede going for him.

    Moo.

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    I think it's moreso that voting for anyone other than Trump sends a message that they 'got away' with 2020. They might do that anyway. Maybe they already have. I mean, I like DeSantis, but DeSantis didn't have an election stolen from him in 2020. (Although honestly, since the very first debate, Ron's kind of had this vibe like he doesn't really want to be president, which sort of gives credence to the claims that he was 'recruited')

    I'm not saying that's a good reason to vote for Trump, but it is *a* reason, and I think it still doesn't sit well with a lot of people that TPTB can stuff ballot boxes and try cases in front of biased judges, and then hopes everyone will 'move on'. Those voters haven't just . . . gone away. They can't. What we've witnessed up to, and since, the 2020 election has been an outright sham, except only in the eyes of those who are hopelessly afflicted with TDS.

    There's only one candidate these people could vote for that could potentially give the satisfaction of payback, even if it's mostly symbolic.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 12-19-2023 at 12:26 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    (Although honestly, since the very first debate, Ron's kind of had this vibe like he doesn't really want to be president, which sort of gives credence to the claims that he was 'recruited')
    Ron Paul was recruited. By us. I know not really wanting a job that every little boy aspires to is a turnoff for most voters. But I'm with Douglas Adams on this one. Give it to the person who wants it least. He'll try to do what he does do well, and he'll try to do as little as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    There's only one candidate these people could vote for that could potentially give the satisfaction of payback, even if it's mostly symbolic.
    Hell of a thing to base a psyop on. Just as long as we don't appoint him for life after we kill all the teal-haired poll workers, then I guess we'll be able to say we could have done ourselves more harm. But I think he's scheduled to be crowned Big Brother.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Hell of a thing to base a psyop on. Just as long as we don't appoint him for life after we kill all the teal-haired poll workers, then I guess we'll be able to say we could have done ourselves more harm. But I think he's scheduled to be crowned Big Brother.
    What.

    You lost me.

    I get that you think it's all an extremely elaborate reverse-uno-skip-flip play by the elites. (I'm not looking to rehash that debate here—my views haven't changed, and neither have yours)

    'Killing teal-haired poll workers' and 'appointing Trump for life' are new ones though. Unless I'm just wildly misinterpreting your comment, you're slipping to the level of MSM fear-porn.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 12-19-2023 at 06:21 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    What.

    You lost me.

    I get that you think it's all an extremely elaborate reverse-uno-skip-flip play by the elites. (I'm not looking to rehash that debate here—my views haven't changed, and neither have yours)

    'Killing teal-haired poll workers' and 'appointing Trump for life' are new ones though. Unless I'm just wildly misinterpreting your comment, you're slipping to the level of MSM fear-porn.
    It doesnt make any sense. Trump is being hit from all angles by a weaponized DOJ and the cult leftist media- and somehow he is supposed to be be the evil one actually?

    I used to think trump was a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Didn’t like him from the time he ran in the primary while Ron Paul was running, didn’t like him before he won his election, or after. But something is ringing too true to me that he is fighting to keep America safe from the very powers who are clobbering him right as we speak. As someone who has been through the court system, he is not fighting an easy fight at all. And that’s just one of the many tentacles of the monster.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    'Killing teal-haired poll workers' and 'appointing Trump for life' are new ones though. Unless I'm just wildly misinterpreting your comment, you're slipping to the level of MSM fear-porn.
    How do dictatorships typically happen, historically? I'm not privy to the details, but I doubt they'll be all that inventive. No doubt it'll be a script we've seen before. The CIA has been practicing setting up puppet dictatorships since before we were born.

  8. #36
    The only way Trump has a shot to come close and potentially win is if Biden is the Democratic candidate.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The only way Trump has a shot to come close and potentially win is if Biden is the Democratic candidate.
    I REALLY doubt Biden will end up being the candidate...

    But regardless, I don't think Trump has a chance unless they change back all the loosened voting rules and lock down all the ballots. In other words, he doesn't have a chance.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I REALLY doubt Biden will end up being the candidate...

    But regardless, I don't think Trump has a chance unless they change back all the loosened voting rules and lock down all the ballots. In other words, he doesn't have a chance.
    Consider this. States run elections. Democrats have exactly 270 EC votes in their Democratically-controlled states and DC. I'm not counting Louisiana and Kentucky because even though they have a Democrat governor, there is no chance they won't vote Republican. All others add to exactly 270. So, if just ONE falls out of line, Democrats cannot hit the total. Michigan is a prospect due to Israel and its high Muslim population. Another is Maine, and another is Arizona where Katie Hobbs is so fed up with Biden that she's sending her National Guard to the border. Kansas, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania are possibles too.
    There is a solid path for Trump over Biden, additionally RFK Jr and Cornel West and Jill Stein (Green) will siphon off the liberal vote.

    But if the Democrats run a more popular, sensible and charismatic candidate who isn't afraid to talk about Biden's failings, they will beat Trump. It has to be the right candidate.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Consider this. States run elections. Democrats have exactly 270 EC votes in their Democratically-controlled states and DC. I'm not counting Louisiana and Kentucky because even though they have a Democrat governor, there is no chance they won't vote Republican. All others add to exactly 270. So, if just ONE falls out of line, Democrats cannot hit the total. Michigan is a prospect due to Israel and its high Muslim population. Another is Maine, and another is Arizona where Katie Hobbs is so fed up with Biden that she's sending her National Guard to the border. Kansas, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania are possibles too.
    There is a solid path for Trump over Biden, additionally RFK Jr and Cornel West and Jill Stein (Green) will siphon off the liberal vote.

    But if the Democrats run a more popular, sensible and charismatic candidate who isn't afraid to talk about Biden's failings, they will beat Trump. It has to be the right candidate.
    Seems like you're still thinking that the voters decide the outcomes. I think the voting processes decide the outcomes. Trump may win states with a tight voting process, but he'll lose the others just like last time.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Seems like you're still thinking that the voters decide the outcomes. I think the voting processes decide the outcomes. Trump may win states with a tight voting process, but he'll lose the others just like last time.
    I'm not doing that at all. I'm saying that even if Dems rig their states, they have no room for error.
    If the Republican governors and secretaries of state are also going to rig against Trump, then it's fait accompli.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    How do dictatorships typically happen, historically? I'm not privy to the details, but I doubt they'll be all that inventive. No doubt it'll be a script we've seen before. The CIA has been practicing setting up puppet dictatorships since before we were born.
    I believe the narrative is, "If people vote for Trump, it will be the end of democracy"

    Someone, call the big-wigs at MSNBC and make sure I'm getting it right. Don't want to butcher the headlines.

    If Trump were going to become a dictator, the best chance to do that would've been in the interim between election day 2020 and inauguration 2021. If he didn't take that step when he could see they were about to finalize a fraudulent election against him—while he was still commander in chief of the armed services—then brother, it won't happen.

    Now, Biden (or whoever controls Biden) . . . I ain't so certain. Seeing as how the left has habitually accused the right of exactly everything the left actually ends up doing . . . yep, we have seen this script before. But you think Trump's the threat.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 12-19-2023 at 04:49 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    If Trump were going to become a dictator, the best chance to do that would've been in the interim between election day 2020 and inauguration 2021.
    Nope. Can't get people that stuck on a tool until you actually steal it from them and replace it with a joke.

    Now they have something working for this psyop they didn't have three years ago. Namely, disaffected, angry Democrats.

    It's a psyop. Timing is important. Remember your logic when it happens. That way you can know it must be a psyop, or it would have happened earlier.

    They want us to demand tyranny. Safer that way.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-19-2023 at 04:51 PM.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Nope. Can't get people that stuck on a tool until you actually steal it from them and replace it with a joke.

    Now they have something working for this psyop they didn't have three years ago. Namely, disaffected, angry Democrats.

    It's a psyop. Timing is important. Remember your logic when it happens. That way you can know it must be a psyop, or it would have happened earlier.

    They want us to demand tyranny. Safer that way.
    We're getting into that debate again, aren't we? Alright man, you believe what you wanna believe.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    We're getting into that debate again, aren't we? Alright man, you believe what you wanna believe.
    I believe I'd rather not wind up saying I told you so, because by then we'll all be in a trap. But c'est la guerre.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I believe I'd rather not wind up saying I told you so, because by then we'll all be in a trap. But c'est la guerre.
    The thing is, man, you get the benefit of being right all the time by offering up vague, nebulous strategies regarding what the deep state is up to.

    Yep, TPTB are up to no good. I can say that a thousand times and strike gold on my prediction 1,000+1.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    "I'm not privvy to the details."
    You never give any details. I try point out why it doesn't logically make sense that this is some elaborate scheme to secretly get Trump elected and your auto-reply is 'no that can't be, because psyop. Remember your logic!' Like, what? lol.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 12-19-2023 at 05:30 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  19. #46
    Thing is, man, I don't have what you want from me. I just have a deep and abiding faith in three things. They're not stupid--evil, reckless, yes, but not stupid. They're not just doing all this crap for the hell of it. And there is a reason Trump has been awash in free publicity for a decade--a reason that wasn't a response to his once-alleged and now real popularity, but the cause of it.

    He Who Must Be Named is just another part of the game. To ignore that lesson we learned from the He Who Must Not Be Named R3volution is to be willfully ignorant. To ignore that Trump caused more of this inflation than Biden, and used it to finance the death jab he still hasn't disavowed, is damned irresponsible in a republic.

    It's a psyop. Conservatives are being trolled. Unfortunately, it's as easy as snatching candy from a baby.

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    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-19-2023 at 06:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    Unfortunately, it's as easy as snatching candy from a baby.
    Oh, is it? To their credit, most conservatives have been—by comparison to left, constantly spiraling into a city-burning rage—remarkably restrained.

    Perhaps, too restrained, as the machinations of the deep state bear down on them. Now, I'm not saying that it's impossible that someone is going to snap, eventually, but good God man, who wouldn't? They're throwing everything they've got at them. It's like watching someone punch someone else's kid in the face, and when the parent responds in anger (as most any normal human being would), you jump out the bushes and say, 'now, now, don't overreact! This is exactly what they want you to do!'

    Do you not, at least somewhat, see how ridiculous that is? Maybe the analogy is a bit strong, but the train of abuses and usurpations is a hell of a lot longer than the list our forefathers compiled, and they 'overreacted' a lot quicker.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 12-19-2023 at 08:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Maybe the analogy is a bit strong, but the train of abuses and usurpations is a hell of a lot longer than the list our forefathers compiled, and they 'overreacted' a lot quicker.
    They had one hell of a lot easier time identifying the real enemy, and the correct solution.

    Psyops have come a long way since then.

    Fear and anger will get us tyranny, because we won't be able to think clearly. That's the whole game. I guarantee it. Don't know exactly how the trap will work yet. Just know, one, there IS a trap, and two, Trump won't fix anything, just like he didn't fix the deficit, just like he didn't stop the pandemic, just like he hired 9iu11ani to torpedo the probe into the 2020 selection from the inside.

    We need problem - reaction - solution, not problem - reaction - the "cure" they're spoon feeding us in the "alternative" media which is one hell of a lot worse than even this disease. Just as Trump's jab is a hell of a lot worse than the common $#@!ing cold.

    Never believed one word this man said. But when it comes to voters, this was the biggest lie of all:



    Deposing them is our nuke. It's our ONLY nuke. If we go off half cocked and lob it at the wrong target, we get cooked. We have to have more sense than the poor slob at the bar who gets suckered into taking a swing at the kung fu master because he got taunted.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-19-2023 at 09:11 PM.



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    Fight smarter, not harder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Oh, is it? To their credit, most conservatives have been—by comparison to left, constantly spiraling into a city-burning rage—remarkably restrained.

    Perhaps, too restrained, as the machinations of the deep state bear down on them. Now, I'm not saying that it's impossible that someone is going to snap, eventually, but good God man, who wouldn't? They're throwing everything they've got at them. It's like watching someone punch someone else's kid in the face, and when the parent responds in anger (as most any normal human being would), you jump out the bushes and say, 'now, now, don't overreact! This is exactly what they want you to do!'

    Do you not, at least somewhat, see how ridiculous that is? Maybe the analogy is a bit strong, but the train of abuses and usurpations is a hell of a lot longer than the list our forefathers compiled, and they 'overreacted' a lot quicker.
    The only fault I have with this is suggesting that your analogy is too strong.

    If anything, it is not strong enough.

    The Marxists are using language that is genocide, working up momentum.

    Their media organs have become well polished versions of Radio Rwanda.

    To not fight back against this is suicide.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-20-2023 at 11:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Get used to it. The insanity we’re about to see has no bounds. You thought 2020 was out there?? You ain’t seen nothing yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I've lived in New Hampshire over 20 years now, and maybe this polling number is why something is happening that I just noticed as being very strange.

    Here it is one month away from the GOP primary in what may be the most hotly contested and important election in the nation's history and in any normal year, even without that, there would be lawn signs and banners and flag wavers on corners everywhere, for every single candidate you could think of.

    I was out driving around today and it hit me...there is hardly any of that this year, I mean, almost none.

    In my little town, in a normal first primary presidential election year, every third home would have a banner or lawn sign or something.

    I saw a few large Trump banners, maybe three or four, from die hard Trump partisans, a couple I know personally, and maybe a total of five or six for Vivek, Scott(?), and DeSantis.

    I saw not a single Christie or Haley sign.

    Weird...
    Yesterday I drove for three hours in towns and neighborhoods that I canvassed for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012, running various errands.

    These were "politically engaged" places, and, as I noted above, roughly one out three houses had some sort of yard sign, banner, display or hand made sign of some sort for their preferred candidate.

    In three hours, I saw five:

    One Haley sign on public property.

    Four Trump banners, two of which have been up for years now.

    That was it.

    Something is brewing...
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-20-2023 at 09:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Something is brewing...
    The realization that the political class is purposely screwing us is brewing. Complete contempt for the system is brewing.

    And it's a good sign.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The realization that the political class is purposely screwing us is brewing. Complete contempt for the system is brewing.

    And it's a good sign.
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The realization that the political class is purposely screwing us is brewing. Complete contempt for the system is brewing.

    And it's a good sign.
    Keeping my fingers crossed that this is true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Thing is, man, I don't have what you want from me. I just have a deep and abiding faith in three things. They're not stupid--evil, reckless, yes, but not stupid. They're not just doing all this crap for the hell of it. And there is a reason Trump has been awash in free publicity for a decade--a reason that wasn't a response to his once-alleged and now real popularity, but the cause of it.

    He Who Must Be Named is just another part of the game. To ignore that lesson we learned from the He Who Must Not Be Named R3volution is to be willfully ignorant. To ignore that Trump caused more of this inflation than Biden, and used it to finance the death jab he still hasn't disavowed, is damned irresponsible in a republic.

    It's a psyop. Conservatives are being trolled. Unfortunately, it's as easy as snatching candy from a baby.
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    Why would you possibly think I want something from you?
    Why would you possibly think I wasn't talking to nobody's_hero?



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Why would you possibly think I wasn't talking to nobody's_hero?
    Because your reply quoted my post only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Because your reply quoted my post only.
    Oh. No, I was talking to him. But I do appreciate you for posting that Viva Frei clip in the other thread. Good find.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yesterday I drove for three hours in towns and neighborhoods that I canvassed for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012, running various errands.

    These were "politically engaged" places, and, as I noted above, roughly one out three houses had some sort of yard sign, banner, display or hand made sign of some sort for their preferred candidate.

    In three hours, I saw five:

    One Haley sign on public property.

    Four Trump banners, two of which have been up for years now.

    That was it.

    Something is brewing...
    Nobody wants their property vandalized, and Biden didn't get 81 million votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The only way Trump has a shot to come close and potentially win is if Biden is the Democratic candidate.
    The only way Trump has a shot to win is if he cheats harder than the Democrats. Problem is, he's going up against people that have perfected the art of cheating and they know all the ins and outs. Not to mention Trump doesn't even want to cheat to win.
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