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    First US case of Ebola

    CDC news conference on now.

    Arrived in US from Liberia with no symptoms, then got sick.

    -t



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    just in time for the holidays.

    Merry Christmas.
    Last edited by JK/SEA; 09-30-2014 at 03:58 PM.

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    well this sucks
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    Everyone panic!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Everyone panic!!!!
    not yet. Lets give it a few weeks.

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    Political correctness has stopped any ideas of quarantine. We'll see what that will bring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Political correctness has stopped any ideas of quarantine. We'll see what that will bring.
    And later in the thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    No problems. If anyone in your household is running a fever, you will be escorted to your quarantine camp.

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    Is 'Brian4Liberty' a handle that a few different people use to post under or something?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Political correctness has stopped any ideas of quarantine. We'll see what that will bring.
    Political correctness? I'm aware of political correctness when it comes to religion, sex, politics, gender/orientation/race, but I've never heard of political correctness when it comes to quarantining sick individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Political correctness? I'm aware of political correctness when it comes to religion, sex, politics, gender/orientation/race, but I've never heard of political correctness when it comes to quarantining sick individuals.
    You are a mean, terrible person if you in any way suggest that a person should not be able to come into the US after exposure to Ebola. You are twice as mean if that person is a non-citizen (the CDC doctor today refused to answer a question about the citizenship of the Ebola patient). You are triple mean if that person is coming from an impoverished nation. You are quadruple mean (and a racist) if that nation has a majority of people who are ordained as a minority in the United States.

    Now if that person were coming from, say, Russia or Iran, then a quarantine on that entire nation would be in order, along with sanctions and a possible dropping of fire bombs for sterilization and decontamination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    You are a mean, terrible person if you in any way suggest that a person should not be able to come into the US after exposure to Ebola. You are twice as mean if that person is a non-citizen (the CDC doctor today refused to answer a question about the citizenship of the Ebola patient). You are triple mean if that person is coming from an impoverished nation. You are quadruple mean (and a racist) if that nation has a majority of people who are ordained as a minority in the United States.

    Now if that person were coming from, say, Russia or Iran, then a quarantine on that entire nation would be in order, along with sanctions and a possible dropping of fire bombs for sterilization and decontamination.
    This is news to me. I've never witnessed this kind of attitude toward quarantining those afflicted with Ebola. Having earned my degree in political science, it seems a bit strange to me that I don't know what you're talking about.
    Last edited by PaulConventionWV; 10-01-2014 at 08:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Everyone panic!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Everyone panic!!!!
    When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
    “Do you not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?” - Oxenstiern

    Violence will not save us. Let us love one another, for love is from God.

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    Don't worry, nothing to see here. We are so advanced and superior here in the US that no disease will ever spread!
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Don't worry, nothing to see here. We are so advanced and superior here in the US that no disease will ever spread!
    lol yeah that's what I was thinking. It's what they have been declaring since this began

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    Is anyone really concerned about Ebola being a serious issue in the US? I'm not. Jus sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Is anyone really concerned about Ebola being a serious issue in the US? I'm not. Jus sayin
    About 1000 times more concerned that I am about ISIS.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Is anyone really concerned about Ebola being a serious issue in the US? I'm not. Jus sayin
    It depends on where you live, what you do for a living, and what sort of people you interact with on a daily basis. I'm not terrified, but it has the potential to be a fairly serious issue for me, yeah.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    It depends on where you live, what you do for a living, and what sort of people you interact with on a daily basis. I'm not terrified, but it has the potential to be a fairly serious issue for me, yeah.
    Good points. I do interact with people all over Arizona on a fairly regular basis, but I don't exchange bodily fluids with anyone but the Mrs...

    I would think those in the healthcare industry would be most at-risk. Would that include you, Melissa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Good points. I do interact with people all over Arizona on a fairly regular basis, but I don't exchange bodily fluids with anyone but the Mrs...

    I would think those in the healthcare industry would be most at-risk. Would that include you, Melissa?
    That would include me, and by location and people I was thinking more directly of those in metro hospitals that see a great deal of lower income and undocumented patients. At those places, you see little blooms of things like H1N1, TB, and I would guess this would follow a similar vector. People in crowded waiting areas also don't always cover their mouths, and I will spare you what happens in the seats of shopping carts or in waiting room chairs when someone has a sick infant/toddler. Even then, it's a remote chance of catching anything, but as Brian pointed out it's 1000 times more likely than any boogey man danger from overseas terrorists.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Is anyone really concerned about Ebola being a serious issue in the US? I'm not. Jus sayin
    I'm not unconcerned about it. I expect there will be deaths here in the U.S. from Ebola. It sucks to be those people and their loved ones. I don't expect it will wipe out half of the country, no. Just enough deaths to take away more civil liberties? sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    I'm not unconcerned about it. I expect there will be deaths here in the U.S. from Ebola. It sucks to be those people and their loved ones. I don't expect it will wipe out half of the country, no. Just enough deaths to take away more civil liberties? sure.
    No problems. If anyone in your household is running a fever, you will be escorted to your quarantine camp.

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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    No problems. If anyone in your household is running a fever, you will be escorted to your quarantine camp.

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    Except they'll be wearing bunny suits while toting the guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    I'm not unconcerned about it. I expect there will be deaths here in the U.S. from Ebola. It sucks to be those people and their loved ones. I don't expect it will wipe out half of the country, no. Just enough deaths to take away more civil liberties? sure.
    Bring Martial Law as well.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Bring Martial Law as well.
    That's crazy talk! That would never happen in the USSA. Well, except for maybe New Orleans. And Boston. Dallas next?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    I'm not unconcerned about it. I expect there will be deaths here in the U.S. from Ebola. It sucks to be those people and their loved ones. I don't expect it will wipe out half of the country, no. Just enough deaths to take away more civil liberties? sure.
    That.

    That is all you need to know.

    Assuming this is not the start of the zombie apocalypse, nothing of any great importance will come out of this except for the loss of more liberty.

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    TSA would rather harass Americans.. than to maybe screen people who traveled from West Africa into USA. lol.

    Lovely.. diseases from Africa and Central/South America. Anyone reading about the respiratory disease with polio like symptoms recently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    TSA would rather harass Americans.. than to maybe screen people who traveled from West Africa into USA. lol.

    Lovely.. diseases from Africa and Central/South America. Anyone reading about the respiratory disease with polio like symptoms recently?

    Their idea of screening is using the same pair of gloves for every crotch grab

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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    TSA would rather harass Americans.. than to maybe screen people who traveled from West Africa into USA. lol.

    Lovely.. diseases from Africa and Central/South America. Anyone reading about the respiratory disease with polio like symptoms recently?
    Yeah its called polio.. but since polio has been eradicated with cancer-causing vaccines now anytime polio shows up its simply re-diagnosed as polio-like such and such

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    Could have been prevented. Travel should have been restricted from Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Travel should have been restricted from Africa.
    By whom how?
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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