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Thread: If TX budget is $91 billion/year and CA is $85/billion what am I missing?

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    If TX budget is $91 billion/year and CA is $85/billion what am I missing?

    I am so confused, I was reading an article this morning saying that CA has an annual budget now of $85 billion. Curious to see what TX was I read an article that they just approved a $182 billion/2 year budget. Every statistic though says that CA has the largest state governments, while TX has the smaller. I have done over an hour of research and not been able to get to the bottom of this and am now very confused. What am I missing here?

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...2.50a8d5c.html

    http://www.sfexaminer.com/nation/ap/48195897.html
    Last edited by Howard_Roark; 08-16-2009 at 10:24 AM.



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    If anybody says Texas has a small government, they are lieing. There is hardly such a thing anymore.

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    This makes no sense.
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    how much money does texas pull in from its fuel industry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoreyBowen999 View Post
    If anybody says Texas has a small government, they are lieing. There is hardly such a thing anymore.
    Thats a rediculous generalization to make. Go live in New York City and come back and tell me Texas doesn't have a small government.

    Really no one here has any insight into this?



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    first of all.. were in one of the higher tenth largest economies in the world while CA is 5th I believe..


    today, relatively speaking, Texas has somewhat smaller government.. certainly in comparison to many states.. we are also one of I think 3 or 4 that wont be bankrupt in a year.. we have a 9 billion dollar surplus..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard_Roark View Post
    Thats a rediculous generalization to make. Go live in New York City and come back and tell me Texas doesn't have a small government.

    Really no one here has any insight into this?
    the kid is in texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard_Roark View Post
    I am so confused, I was reading an article this morning saying that CA has an annual budget now of $85 billion. Curious to see what TX was I read an article that they just approved a $182 billion/2 year budget. Every statistic though says that CA has the largest state governments, while TX has the smaller. I have done over an hour of research and not been able to get to the bottom of this and am now very confused. What am I missing here?

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...2.50a8d5c.html

    http://www.sfexaminer.com/nation/ap/48195897.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    first of all.. were in one of the higher tenth largest economies in the world while CA is 5th I believe..


    today, relatively speaking, Texas has somewhat smaller government.. certainly in comparison to many states.. we are also one of I think 3 or 4 that wont be bankrupt in a year.. we have a 9 billion dollar surplus..
    As a percent of their economy that would mean that Texas has a bigger government (more spending) than California since our total economy is bigger and our total government outlays are lower.

    Texas State Budget breakdown:

    http://www.texasbudgetsource.com/texas-budget

    California (last year's budget but the allocations should be similar):

    http://2007-08.archives.ebudget.ca.g...M/1249561.html

    It looks like as a percent of expenditures that Texas spends a lot more on health and human services than CA does (31.6% vs 26.6% of the budget). I believe that Texas has lower individual tax rates because they take in more from the oil and energy producers in the state. On the chart above, CA spent $38 biillion on HHS while Texas http://www.texasbudgetsource.com/hea...human-services has budgeted $53 billion for 2008- 2009 or about 40% higher than California. Total California spending that year was $103 billion according to the link. This makes Texas seem more of a welfare state than California is- certainly on either a per-capita expenditure basis or as a percent of their economy.

    Looks like the CA figure is for one year while the Texas one is for two years.
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    Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFR)

    State of Texas Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports:
    2001-2008: https://fmx.cpa.state.tx.us/fm/pubs/cafr/index.php
    2008: https://fmx.cpa.state.tx.us/fm/pubs/cafr/08/index.php

    vs

    State of California Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports:
    1999-2008: http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard_state_cafr.html
    2008: http://www.sco.ca.gov/Files-ARD/CAFR/cafr08web.pdf

    These are just state, do not forget that the county and city / town reports should be looked at as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard_Roark View Post
    Thats a rediculous generalization to make. Go live in New York City and come back and tell me Texas doesn't have a small government.

    Really no one here has any insight into this?
    Before you say this next time maybe you should look at where I live jackass. What I was saying is that yes in comparrison we have a small government but it is still VERY big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoreyBowen999 View Post
    Before you say this next time maybe you should look at where I live jackass. What I was saying is that yes in comparrison we have a small government but it is still VERY big.
    I saw you lived in TX, which is why I said maybe if you went and lived in NYC you would see how incredibly large the government there is in relation to TX. NYC alone has a $60B budget, NY state has a $131B budget. Thus, TX has a RELATIVELY small government in comparison to others.



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