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    So, the left is actually supporting Cheney in this.

    Strange bedfellows indeed. There are some actively calling for her to leave the party and become a democrat, now that she has seen the light.
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    Good. Let them all eat each other alive.

    Dick, family, Halliburton. GTFO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    So, the left is actually supporting Cheney in this.

    Strange bedfellows indeed. There are some actively calling for her to leave the party and become a democrat, now that she has seen the light.
    I hope Liz Cheney joins the Squad.

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    Credit should be given to Trump when he does something good.
    Good development.

    At the same time this happening almost 20 years after Iraqi freedom war blunder shows acute slowmness of corrective actions by 'party of small minds' aka GOP-neocons wing. And they wonder why party is disintegrating into a directionless mess of confusion and infighting at this stage.


    ETA:
    But on a different note:

    Progressives on the rise: Liz Cheney replacement Elise Stefanik is a Climate Change believer


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    So, the left is actually supporting Cheney in this.

    Strange bedfellows indeed. There are some actively calling for her to leave the party and become a democrat, now that she has seen the light.
    All of the Sunday Morning propaganda shows (ABC, NBC, CNN, Fox, etc.) spent a lot of time defending Cheney and attacking Trump last Sunday. Even the "news" story in the OP made it all about Trump.

    The neocon establishment did everything it could to help her. The GOP since Trump has become more aware of neocons and their essential RINO-left loyalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    All of the Sunday Morning propaganda shows (ABC, NBC, CNN, Fox, etc.) spent a lot of time defending Cheney and attacking Trump last Sunday. Even the "news" story in the OP made it all about Trump.
    Trump, the most dangerous president in history.

    I [we] still activate daily out and about in public and still attend meetings at the restaurants where others are free to join.

    Anytime I speak negatively about Trump, I am told that he is no longer in office and I keep bringing up a dead issue. Conversely, people around me bring Trump up, speaking only positive things about him and want to do everything they can to see him run in 2024.


    The neocon establishment did everything it could to help her. The GOP since Trump has become more aware of neocons and their essential RINO-left loyalties.

    Outside of "newz" channels, I wholeheartedly disagree. I speak to actual people, not commentators. The "R's" in W. PA and E. Ohio may speak negatively about some of the neocons who are well known to be neocons, and ones who Trump openly outted. But all-in-all, they transitioned their support from the War Complex to the Pharm Complex. They believe Trump did a "miraculous" thing by reducing regulations while at the same time ignoring every aspect of him giving the pharm/biotech corporations billions and trillions of tax payer dollars [Fascism]. Look where we are.

    Until either Trump is known for his actual Record, or completely forgotten about and never mentioned again, it is critical to keep pounding the truth, hoping to wake people up out of their complete and utter stupor that the "R" party and Trump are "advocates of liberty" which they clearly are NOT.

    Yeah, right, Fascist/Commie Ohio Governor Mike DeWine (R) is a "truly great Republican!". Which is what I constantly hear every time I set foot over in Ohio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Trump, the most dangerous president in history.
    Have you considered becoming a CNN correspondent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Have you considered becoming a CNN correspondent?
    You are considering joining Liz on the left? Wait…no need… you support “sent by God”. One and the same.
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    Another positive effect of Trump.

    This is a significant shift of the GOP away from Neocons and I applaud it.

    Liberals now cheer for McCain, Romney and Cheney and wring their hands and moan about the GOP moving the wrong way.

    I want the GOP to be less liberal and this is a good day!

    The Republican party is still a big mess but these little steps help in my opinion.
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    Cheney's voting record is as conservative, if not moreso, than that of the lady who's replacing her. But she dared to refuse to kowtow to the Narcissist-in-Chief and embrace his lies about the election, so she had to go.

    It appears that a majority of the GOP in Congress feels that getting reelected and cultivating a cult of personality are more important than principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Cheney's voting record is as conservative, if not moreso, than that of the lady who's replacing her.
    Even if that's true, it's Liz Cheney.

    What we want is to not have people that close to the establishment in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Have you considered becoming a CNN correspondent?
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dannno again
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    Cheney's replacement is Elise Stefanik.

    The John Birch Society's Freedom Index all-time score for Cheney is 61%. For Stefanik it's 39"%.
    https://justfacts.votesmart.org/inte...7/rating/11445

    FreedomWorks score for Cheney in 2020 was 53, and for Stefanik it was 37.
    https://www.freedomworks.org/content...ouse-scorecard

    The Club for Growth gives Cheney a lifetime score of 65, and Stefanik 35.
    https://www.clubforgrowth.org/scorec...09/Liz-Cheney/
    https://www.clubforgrowth.org/scorec...lise-Stefanik/

    Heritage Foundation gives Cheney a lifetime score of 80 and Stefanik 48.
    https://heritageaction.com/scorecard...rs/C001109/117
    https://heritageaction.com/scorecard...rs/S001196/117

    Stefanik's scores with the National Taxpayer's Union over the years range between 45 and 68, while Cheney's range from 59 to 80.
    https://www.ntu.org/ratecongress/leg...elise-stefanik
    https://www.ntu.org/ratecongress/legislator/liz-cheney

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What we want is to not have people that close to the establishment in power.
    It was the establishment that ousted her and replaced her with Stefanik.

    I don't support Cheney. But in this case it was precisely her refusal to go along with the GOP establishment that resulted in her punishment.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    This is a significant shift of the GOP away from Neocons
    Do you know of any evidence to support this claim?

    Because that's not what this looks like to me:
    https://stefanik.house.gov/issues/na...eign-relations
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dannno again
    Statism/Fascism is a hard habit to break. How many more shots are you planning to get? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Statism/Fascism is a hard habit to break. How many more shots are you planning to get? lol
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    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Good riddance. She's a total disgrace just like her father.
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    What position of Leadership and how'd she come by that ??
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    This is a significant shift of the GOP away from Neocons
    Is it?

    It's not a rejection of her policies or her politics. It has nothing to do with ideology.



    Seems more like identity politics than anything else to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Is it?

    It's not a rejection of her policies or her politics. It has nothing to do with ideology.



    Seems more like identity politics than anything else to me.
    I agree. I wish they would have kicked her out for being a warmonger-- years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Is it?

    It's not a rejection of her policies or her politics. It has nothing to do with ideology.



    Seems more like identity politics than anything else to me.
    I think you're right. But if her policies do have anything to do with it, then the message is clear: She is not progressive enough to hold GOP leadership.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Liberal Democrats are among those whining the loudest about Cheney's ouster. [insert Carlin's "it's a big club" bit here]

    Here's one of the more preposterously absurd examples:

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...82025891225611

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Statism/Fascism is a hard habit to break. How many more shots are you planning to get? lol
    my fourth one is scheduled for tomorrow
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    Who else wants to join the Liz Cheney for President club?

    ...

    Liz Cheney won’t be speaker but she could be president

    When Congresswoman Liz Cheney (R-WY) loses her leadership post in the House of Representatives, as she is likely to do this week, the door to becoming the first female Republican speaker will have closed. But another has opened. She may have started down a path to being the first woman Republican president.
    ...
    Cheney has boldly staked out leadership of the post-Trump Republican party. She’s a real conservative—Democrats who like her opposition to Trump will never like her politics. Freed of the need to play internal House politics she can now go about the process of building a post-Trump Republican party. Breaking with your party is a bold move. But Bill Clinton led the “New Democrats” in 1992 and became president for two terms. Liz Cheney has set herself up for the job.
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    More: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...-be-president/
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    Trump obsession aside, Cheney is at odds with some elements in the GOP, including Rand Paul.

    Some examples:

    - Cheney attacks anyone who suggests leaving Afghanistan.
    - Cheney attacks anyone who questions the integrity of the vote. In Cheney’s world, everything is great and no vote fraud of any kind has ever existed. The COVID excuse to illegally change election law is just fine.
    - Cheney is an unabashed globalist. In this, she has more in common with the Biden Administration than many in the GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Narcissist-in-Chief...his lies about the election...
    What lies?
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