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    DHS sets up Domestic Terrorist Unit

    We all should know where this is going. At the very least, it'll be used against each sides political opponents and of course to strip away our rights.


    https://www.teletrader.com/dhs-setti...694?internal=1

    The United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced it is establishing a domestic terrorism unit at its intelligence arm.

    The new branch is designed to assure the department gets the intelligence necessary to "combat threats posed by domestic terrorism and targeted violence," the agency said.

    The news comes after President Joe Biden in January directed law enforcement and intelligence officials to assess the threat of violent domestic extremism after rioters stormed the Capitol building while Congress was in session.

    https://thehill.com/policy/national-...ligence-office

    The center comes amid reports DHS is working to ramp up its ability to monitor social media activity for potential security threats.

    DHS said the center will rely on behavioral threat assessment and management tools and “addresses early-risk factors that can lead to radicalization to violence.”

    Waheed said the new intelligence unit could also prove problematic, relying on so-called fusion centers that share information between local, state and federal law enforcement and that have faced bipartisan criticism for doing little to disrupt terror plots.

    “Here we are a little over 100 days into the new administration and they simply replaced the office with this new center and doubled down on prior harmful and ineffective centers," Waheed said.

    Lawmakers expressed concern over the centers as far back as 2012 following a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee investigation.

    “It’s troubling that the very ‘fusion’ centers that were designed to share information in a post-9/11 world have become part of the problem. Instead of strengthening our counterterrorism efforts, they have too often wasted money and stepped on Americans’ civil liberties,” then-Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said at the time.



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    This will totally not be used against libertarians and conservatives.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    They have been Training them in Portland.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    More domestic spying, witch hunts, and even star chambers and internal purges on the way - because "white supremacists", "muh democracy", and, of course, "Russia".

    Biden officials testify that white supremacists are greatest domestic security threat
    https://thehill.com/policy/national-...s-are-greatest
    (12 May 2021)

    The Biden administration's top law enforcement officials on Wednesday pledged to dedicate their resources to combat domestic violent extremists amid questions over whether the agencies are equipped to monitor such threats in the wake of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas appeared before the Senate Appropriations Committee for a hearing on domestic extremism as Congress ramped up its scrutiny this week of the circumstances around the attack on the Capitol.

    Both Garland and Mayorkas testified that white supremacist groups pose the most serious domestic national security threat in the U.S., reinforcing what analysts have long concluded about far-right organizations.

    “Domestic violent extremists pose an elevated threat in 2021 and in the FBI’s view, the top domestic violent extremist threat we face comes from racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, specifically those who advocate for the superiority of the white race,” Garland told lawmakers at the top of the hearing.

    But the hearing on Wednesday highlighted the competing partisan priorities as Republicans urged a crackdown on illegal immigration [Of course they did - because Republicans are just a bunch of nostrum-spewing, spineless cowards who are utterly useless when it comes to calling out the Democrats on their bull$#@!. - OB] and Democrats questioned whether the agencies are fully prioritizing efforts to prevent the type of domestic extremism that led to the storming of the Capitol.

    Garland dismissed concern from Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) who asked whether the Justice Department was investigating with “equal vigor” protests in Portland, Ore., and other cities that were often a focus of former President Trump.

    “We don't care what the ideology is, violations of law are pursued and are prosecuted. I think it's fair to say that in my career as a judge, and in law enforcement, I have not seen a more dangerous threat to democracy than the invasion of the Capitol,” Garland said. “There was an attempt to interfere with the fundamental passing of an element of our democracy, the peaceful transfer of power. And if there has to be a hierarchy of things that we prioritize, this would be the one we'd prioritize. It is the most dangerous threat to our democracy. That does not mean that we don't focus on other threats.”

    The Department of Justice has brought more than 400 prosecutions against individuals who participated in the Capitol riot, including members of right-wing groups such as the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, who are facing conspiracy charges over their alleged roles in planning out operations at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

    Some of those charges have also been brought against those with a military or law enforcement background.

    Mayorkas faced questions on a recent Department of Homeland Security (DHS) commitment to conduct an internal review of its own workforce to root out any extremist views within its ranks.

    “That sends chills down my spine that we have to even be doing that,” committee chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) said before securing a commitment from Mayorkas to make the conclusions of the review public.

    Mayorkas’s appearance before the committee follows an announcement by DHS that they are establishing a specific domestic terror branch within the department's Office of Intelligence and Analysis and amid reports that DHS plans to increase its scrutiny of social media to root out potential extremist plots.

    Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) warned the agencies need to track social media not just to root out plots but to monitor disinformation campaigns from Russia.

    “They are using the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol in such a manner to amplify narratives in furtherance of their policy which is to disrupt and disunite and to indeed destroy, if they could, our democracy,” he said.

    But Mayorkas didn’t offer specifics on DHS’s efforts, instead offering up a closed door briefing.

    “We are intensely focused on the information with respect to Russia's effort to sow discord and disunity in our country. And of course we're bringing an all of government effort to respond to that, and I would welcome the opportunity to brief you in a more appropriate forum to address information we have in that regard,” he said.

    While in past hearings on domestic extremism, Republicans have largely sought to encourage the agencies to focus their attention on left-wing extremism, Wednesday’s questions from the GOP were almost exclusively centered on the southern border. [Of course they were - because Republicans are just a bunch of ... oh, wait, I already covered this earlier, didn't I? - OB]

    Mayorkas sought to dispel any concerns that swelling migration at the southern border could present a terror threat.

    “We don't have any evidence to suggest that the threat on the border with respect to a foreign terrorist is any greater today than it was last year, the year prior, or the years over the past decade,” he said. [They don't have any significant evidence of "white supremacist domestic terrorism", either - none that they are willing to present outside of "closed door briefings", anyway. If they did, they'd be screaming it publicly for all to hear. Funny how that works, ain't it? - OB]
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    So strange. BLM openly burning cities doesn’t make the list?
    No - No - No - No
    2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    So strange. BLM openly burning cities doesn’t make the list?
    Of course it doesn't.

    That's justified rage at white supremacy.

    Reported.
    Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. - Heinrich Heine 1823

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    It's not a true war on terror unless there's drone strikes
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    So strange. BLM openly burning cities doesn’t make the list?
    Mostly peacefully burning cities. Doesn't count
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!



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    Apparently, the ACLU, ADL, and SPLC will be among those helping to identify domestic "extremists" and "terrorists" so they can be rooted out.

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...63661084971008



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Apparently, the ACLU, ADL, and SPLC will be among those helping to identify domestic "extremists" and "terrorists" so they can be rooted out.
    Gee,

    Wonder what could go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Of course it doesn't.

    That's justified rage at white supremacy.

    Reported.
    You are a wonderful citizen comrade. Dear leader is proud of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    So strange. BLM openly burning cities doesn’t make the list?
    BLM is being actively RUN out of the Fusion Centers..

    and like crates of guns in Chicago neighborhoods,,, and the stacks of Bricks that magically appear.

    It is planned and Funded ,,and run out of the Fusion Centers.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Apparently, the ACLU, ADL, and SPLC will be among those helping to identify domestic "extremists" and "terrorists" so they can be rooted out.

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...63661084971008


    Surprised the Anti Defamation League isn't on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Surprised the Anti Defamation League isn't on that list.
    They are:

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Apparently, the ACLU, ADL, and SPLC will be among those helping to identify domestic "extremists" and "terrorists" so they can be rooted out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    BLM is being actively RUN out of the Fusion Centers..

    and like crates of guns in Chicago neighborhoods,,, and the stacks of Bricks that magically appear.

    It is planned and Funded ,,and run out of the Fusion Centers.

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    https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/c...nfluence%20the

    Domestic terrorists are individuals who commit violent criminal acts in furtherance of ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as racial bias and anti-government sentiment.

    Domestic terrorism is defined by statute as any act dangerous to human life that violates U.S. criminal laws and appears to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping. The act in question must occur primarily within the jurisdiction of the United States. We believe domestic terrorists pose a present and persistent threat of violence and economic harm to the United States; in fact, there have been more arrests and deaths caused by domestic terrorists than international terrorists in recent years. We are most concerned about lone offenders, primarily using firearms, as these lone offenders represent the dominant trend for lethal domestic terrorists. Frequently, these individuals act without a clear group affiliation or guidance, making them challenging to identify, investigate, and disrupt.

    In line with our mission to protect the American people and uphold the Constitution of the United States, no FBI investigation can be opened solely on the basis of First Amendment-protected activity. Thus, the FBI does not investigate mere association with groups or movements. In order to predicate a domestic terrorism investigation of an individual, the FBI must have information that the individual is perpetuating violent, criminal actions in furtherance of an ideology.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Thus, the FBI does not investigate mere association with groups or movements.
    Bull$#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Bull$#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Bull$#@!.
    https://www.thelastamericanvagabond....get-activists/

    #BlueLeaks Reveal Fusion Centers Employ Undercover Agents To Target Activists
    Posted on August 18, 2020

    Police documents released as part of the #BlueLeaks hack details how law enforcement is tracking activists via social media while empowering private citizens as “Threat Liason Officers.”

    Fusion Centers are centralized systems that pool and analyze intelligence from federal, state, local, and private sector entities. The National Network of Fusion Centers was created after the 9/11 attacks to provide for more streamlined communication between federal and local agencies. The Fusion Centers have been criticized as violations of civil liberties and a danger to separation of federal and local governments, and the abuses of these centers predate #BlueLeaks, including targeting of protesters of the Dakota Access Pipeline. Most infamously, in 2009 it was revealed that the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) was targeting supporters of third party candidates, Ron Paul supporters, anti-abortion activists, and “conspiracy theorists” as potential domestic extremists.
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 05-13-2021 at 07:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    http://pcosmar.blogspot.com/2009/03/...terrorist.html

    Well it is official, Those that want a return to a Constitutional Government are being targeted as Terrorists. Through a leaked Memo from Missouri, supporters of 3rd party ( Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin) People opposed to the Federal Reserve, opposed to a One World Government people that want a return to a Constitutional and limited Government are being targeted and profiled. We are being classed together with Violent Hate groups.
    Don't believe it? Read the memo.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FBI
    [T]here have been more arrests and deaths caused by domestic terrorists than international terrorists in recent years.
    That's because it's easier for the FBI to concoct domestic terror plots for it to foil, compared to international ones.

    It's also more convenient to find and enlist hapless patsies here at home rather than from abroad.

    Quote Originally Posted by FBI
    We are most concerned about lone offenders, primarily using firearms, as these lone offenders represent the dominant trend for lethal domestic terrorists.
    You mean like Randy Weaver - who was so extremely dangerous, he had to be goaded and entrapped into just sawing off the barrel of a shotgun?

    Quote Originally Posted by FBI
    In line with our mission to protect the American people and uphold the Constitution of the United States, no FBI investigation can be opened solely on the basis of First Amendment-protected activity. Thus, the FBI does not investigate mere association with groups or movements.
    LOL. Why you be lyiin' so bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    That's because it's easier for the FBI to concoct domestic terror plots for it to foil, compared to international ones.

    It's also more convenient to find and enlist hapless patsies here at home rather than from abroad.



    You mean like Randy Weaver - who was so extremely dangerous, he had to be goaded and entrapped into just sawing off the barrel of a shotgun?



    LOL. Why you be lyiin' so bad?
    ^ Terrorist sympathizer
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    So strange. BLM openly burning cities doesn’t make the list?
    In fairness, I do recall Antifa being labeled a domestic terrorism organization some months ago. I remember posting about how most of us were warning that the muslim terrorist threat/fear would be morphed into domestic terrorism eventually and here we are.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    In fairness, I do recall Antifa being labeled a domestic terrorism organization some months ago. I remember posting about how most of us were warning that the muslim terrorist threat/fear would be morphed into domestic terrorism eventually and here we are.
    There were calls to have them labeled as Such..(2 years ago)

    Not sure it was ever officially done.. Police have often worked in concert with,, and against conservative groups.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Both Garland and Mayorkas are 100% Juif with Hollycost survivors in their family.
    Last edited by Snowball; 05-13-2021 at 03:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Both Garland and Mayorkas are 100% Juif with Hollycost survivors in their family.
    How did they survive

    something that didnt happen
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Secretary of Defense: Anthony Blinken - Jewish. Family of Immigrants and Hollycost suvivors.
    Homeland Security Chief: Alejandro Mayorkas - 100% Jewish. Ditto.
    Attorney General: Merritt Garland - 100% Jewish. Ditto.
    Chief of Staff: Ron Klain - 100% Jewish.
    Secretary of the Treasury: Janet Yellen - 100% Jewish.
    Senate Leader: Charles Schumer - 100% Jewish
    Second Gentleman: Douglas Emhoff: 100% Jewish.

    there's more, but you get the point.

    I think the ADL and SPLC will get everything they want and then some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Secretary of State: Anthony Blinken - Jewish. Family of Immigrants and Hollycost suvivors.
    Homeland Security Chief: Alejandro Mayorkas - 100% Jewish. Ditto.
    Attorney General: Merritt Garland - 100% Jewish. Ditto.
    Chief of Staff: Ron Klain - 100% Jewish.
    Secretary of the Treasury: Janet Yellen - 100% Jewish.
    Senate Leader: Charles Schumer - 100% Jewish
    Second Gentleman: Douglas Emhoff: 100% Jewish.

    there's more, but you get the point.

    I think the ADL and SPLC will get everything they want and then some more.
    Avril Haines (DNI), Wendy Sherman (Deputy SoS), Rochelle Walensky (CDC), Victoria Nuland (UoS),
    David Kessler and Jeffrey Zients (Covid Response), add these to that list too.

    You would think we are an Israeli colony... are we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    So strange. BLM openly burning cities doesn’t make the list?
    To Democrats, that kind of behavior is justified but only when it comes to people that identify as a Democrats. If Republicans were the ones doing this, the situation would be completely different.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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