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    Leaving Team Blue for Team Red

    May 5, 2021
    By Laurence M. Vance


    Another Democratic politician has left the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party. Although this doesn’t happen often, it seems to happen more often than a Republican politician leaving the Republican Party and joining the Democratic Party.

    John Lee, the mayor of North Las Vegas since 2013, was last elected to office as a Democrat in 2017. On April 6th of this year, he tweeted:


    Card-carrying socialists have completely hijacked the Democratic Party here in Nevada. Today on @foxandfriends I announced my decision to switch to the Republican Party – the party of freedom, opportunity, and hope. Join me!


    Lee said in an interview earlier this month with “Fox & Friends”:


    In the Democratic Party of Nevada, they had an election recently for leadership, and four of the five people were card-carrying members of the Socialist Party.

    It’s not the party that I grew up with 25 years ago in this environment, and it’s not the party I can stand with anymore.


    The Nevada Republican Party tweeted in support of Lee: “Excited to have Mayor Lee join our party! He shares our values in protecting life, defending the 2nd Amendment, and fighting for working families.”

    The Nevada Democratic Party didn’t seem too upset that Lee jumped ship. Judith Whitmer, party chair, “said that Lee hasn’t been aligned with her party, citing his A+ rating with the National Rifle Association, his votes for Donald Trump, and his pro-life position.”

    On his website, which includes a link to join the Republican Party, Mayor Lee says:


    Nevada needs a switch.
    Switch to PEOPLE over ESTABLISHMENT.
    Switch to RIGHTS over RHETORIC.
    The switch is on! It’s time to turn off the Democratic Socialists and turn on the light of liberty.


    In a “Dear Friends” letter on his website, Mayor Lee says about the Democratic Party:



    Like President Ronald Reagan and President Donald Trump, I’ve seen firsthand how the Democrat Party has changed—radically, and not for the better. They’ve embraced a socialist, extremist agenda that is not the party of JFK, or of my parents. Their ideas hurt working-class families, restrict freedom and extinguish opportunity for millions of Americans—particularly working-class minorities who deserve the chance to give their families a better life.

    Here in Nevada, we’ve seen the full takeover of the Democratic Party by admitted socialists. Their goal is clear—ending the America we know and love, and replacing it with a culture of socialist conformity that erases freedom, opportunity and liberty from the American canvas.

    There used to be a place in the Democratic Party for conservative voices like mine. Today, that’s no longer the case. Their party demands a senseless devotion to cancel culture, socialism, and anti-American values I simply do not share.




    Mayor Lee defines his “stance” as:


    DEFENDING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

    Activist media and bureaucrats have taken our country so far away from our founding principles. I will work for those very principles our nation was founded on—smaller government, lower taxes, free speech, protect unborn life, protect the right to bear arms, and embrace the spirit of liberty that made America so great in the first place.

    BATTLING THE SOCIALIST INSURGENCY

    Today’s Democratic Party has been taken over by card-carrying socialists. It must be defeated. The very soul of our nation is at stake.

    PUTTING NEVADANS FIRST

    We The People—that’s who our nation was founded by and for. For too long a corrupt political establishment has corroded our liberties and built a system to empower and enrich insiders and elites. This establishment has been exposed and We The People are poised to take back control.


    Although I applaud Mayor Lee’s stance, and am glad that he has left the Democratic Party, I don’t think he realizes that the Republican Party is simply the Red Socialist Party and the Democratic party is simply the Blue Socialist Party. He has merely left Team Blue for Team Red.

    Republicans believe in socialized education. Long gone are the days when they called for the elimination of the federal Department of Education. Republicans believe that the government should force some Americans to pay for the education of other Americans and their children.

    Republicans believe in socialized medicine. Medicaid and Medicare are nothing less than socialized medicine. Yet, in their platform, the Republicans state: “We intend to save Medicare by modernizing it, empowering its participants, and putting it on a secure financial footing. We will preserve the promise of Medicaid as well by making that program, designed for 1965 medicine, a vehicle for good health in an entirely new era.” Republicans believe that the government should force some Americans to pay for the health care and health insurance of other Americans.

    Republicans believe in socialized charity. They have no philosophical objection to the 80 means-tested welfare programs that provide cash, food, housing subsidies, utility subsidies, and social services to poor, disabled, and lower-income Americans. And neither do they object to the programs that aren’t means-tested. As long as the welfare state is efficient, has low rates of waste, fraud, and abuse, and doesn’t increase in cost too much every year, then they support it.

    Republicans believe in socialized services. For years, they continually funded Amtrak, Planned Parenthood, art and culture, and federal job training. Republicans are the ones who created the TSA to provide security services to airlines. The only objection that Republicans have to President Biden’s $2.3 trillion infrastructure plan is its cost. They are perfectly fine with their own $568 billion infrastructure proposal.

    Republicans believe in Social Security. This is the granddaddy of all socialist programs. Yet, in their platform, Republicans state that all options “should be considered to preserve Social Security.”

    Mayor Lee, what were you thinking when you changed from Team Blue to Team Red? If you object to the socialism of the Democratic Party, then you should join the Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party, some other non-socialist third party, or simply become an Independent. All you have done is change the color of your shirt.

    What matters, of course, is not that you carry the label of Republican, Libertarian, Constitutionalist, or Independent, but what whether you stand for the Constitution, federalism, individual liberty, property rights, limited government, free enterprise, and the free market—things that the Republican Party claims to stand for, but doesn’t.

    Although he was elected governor of South Carolina in 1946 and U.S. senator from South Carolina in 1954 and 1960 as a Democrat, Strom Thurmond left the Democratic Party in 1964 because it was “leading the evolution of our nation to a socialistic dictatorship.” How much more true is that sentiment today.

    Every decent American still in the Democratic Party should leave it and let the party be left to the feminists, the environmentalists, the Green New Dealers, the teachers’ unions, the social justice warriors, the pro-abortionists, the welfare statists, the LGBTQ+ community, and the assorted victim groups that the party uses to get votes.



    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/...-for-team-red/
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Do you guys see any war going on inside the democratic party like you do the republicans?

    I'm not talking about politicians. I'm talking about average voters.

    It seems to me that the dem voters are more of a monolithic 'go along with whatever' party, while the GOP is in turmoil (been that way since Ron Paul) and conservatives won't hesitate to throw an election to keep the establishment out of power. See: GA senate races, 2020.

    It's unfortunate that the dems will keep winning until the GOP unifies on what it should stand for, while the left appears completely unified, but there's no debate on the left. It would be nice if someone would stand up on the left and fight the powers that be, but other than a handful of Bernie bros it seems they're content to vote for whatever garbage the DNC puts on the platter. See: Senile racist Joe Biden, 2020

    Basically, conservative voters are having to fight the entirety of the democratic party and around half of the GOP. I'm happy to see the mayor come over. We need the help.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 05-05-2021 at 09:12 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Do you guys see any war going on inside the democratic party like you do the republicans?

    I'm not talking about politicians. I'm talking about average voters.

    It seems to me that the dem voters are more of a monolithic 'go along with whatever' party, while the GOP is in turmoil (been that way since Ron Paul) and conservatives won't hesitate to throw an election to keep the establishment out of power. See: GA senate races, 2020.

    It's unfortunate that the dems will keep winning until the GOP unifies on what it should stand for, while the left appears completely unified, but there's no debate on the left. It would be nice if someone would stand up on the left and fight the powers that be, but other than a handful of Bernie bros it seems they're content to vote for whatever garbage the DNC puts on the platter. See: Senile racist Joe Biden, 2020

    Basically, conservative voters are having to fight the entirety of the democratic party and around half of the GOP. I'm happy to see the mayor come over. We need the help.
    The GOP establishment is dominated by neocon-MIC-US Chamber servants. The Democrat establishment is dominated by those forces, but also many other special interests, especially the (mostly government) unions. The difference is that the GOP establishment openly declares war on it’s own if they don’t share those special interest loyalties.

    The Democrat leadership is much better at corralling, harnessing, controlling and buying off the extreme Democrat politicians. One might say that it is due to them being easier to buy off.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 05-05-2021 at 10:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Do you guys see any war going on inside the democratic party like you do the republicans?

    I'm not talking about politicians. I'm talking about average voters.

    It seems to me that the dem voters are more of a monolithic 'go along with whatever' party, while the GOP is in turmoil (been that way since Ron Paul) and conservatives won't hesitate to throw an election to keep the establishment out of power. See: GA senate races, 2020.

    It's unfortunate that the dems will keep winning until the GOP unifies on what it should stand for, while the left appears completely unified, but there's no debate on the left. It would be nice if someone would stand up on the left and fight the powers that be, but other than a handful of Bernie bros it seems they're content to vote for whatever garbage the DNC puts on the platter. See: Senile racist Joe Biden, 2020

    Basically, conservative voters are having to fight the entirety of the democratic party and around half of the GOP. I'm happy to see the mayor come over. We need the help.
    As for average voters, I see a common denominator amongst average Democrats. They consume and unquestionably believe mainstream media and entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    ...
    Every decent American still in the Democratic Party should leave it and let the party be left to the feminists, the environmentalists, the Green New Dealers, the teachers’ unions, the social justice warriors, the pro-abortionists, the welfare statists, the LGBTQ+ community, and the assorted victim groups that the party uses to get votes.
    ...
    Whether true or not, the Democrats have cornered the market as the “socially liberal” party. And that is how they hold on to so many people. They are believed to be the party of the tolerant and open-minded, despite how closed minded and intolerant they have actually become.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Whether true or not, the Democrats have cornered the market as the “socially liberal” party. And that is how they hold on to so many people. They are believed to be the party of the tolerant and open-minded, despite how closed minded and intolerant they have actually become.
    This exactly, I actually got scolded back when I was a liberal-by-default teenager by both a teacher and my own mother for thinking Kim Davis' punishment was too harsh, and I did not even defend what she had done (this incident dates me a little). Although I have never personally objected to same-sex marriage, as the government should not be involved in marriage in the first place, that was still a big red pill moment for me as it made me realize I wasn't "socially liberal" in the same way they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    As for average voters, I see a common denominator amongst average Democrats. They consume and unquestionably believe mainstream media and entertainment.
    No doubt. I've pretty much given up hope that something is going to shake their fixation on media propaganda. Not only that but there's not much to work with on the left anymore. Probably the only issue I see at this point that we could work together on is ending the war on drugs, and that's not really a hot-button issue for me anymore, if it ever was. It's more of a 'it'd be nice if it happens' sort of thing. Bigger, more basic issues like, free speech, are off the table, since the left wholly endorses censorship now.

    I guess I wouldn't mind people around here so much if they were balanced in the criticism of the two parties, but this has become more of a place to kick conservatives when they're down. Come one and all to ridicule those trying their hardest to steer the GOP back to its roots, all the while the democrats steamroll, uncontested. Yeah, we'll see how that ends.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    No doubt. I've pretty much given up hope that something is going to shake their fixation on media propaganda. Not only that but there's not much to work with on the left anymore. Probably the only issue I see at this point that we could work together on is ending the war on drugs, and that's not really a hot-button issue for me anymore, if it ever was. It's more of a 'it'd be nice if it happens' sort of thing. Bigger, more basic issues like, free speech, are off the table, since the left wholly endorses censorship now.

    I guess I wouldn't mind people around here so much if they were balanced in the criticism of the two parties, but this has become more of a place to kick conservatives when they're down. Come one and all to ridicule those trying their hardest to steer the GOP back to its roots, all the while the democrats steamroll, uncontested. Yeah, we'll see how that ends.
    So, repubs need to not be critical thinkers, just go along with leaders like those evil democrats. Have to be united in our hate of those evil democrats eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    As for average voters, I see a common denominator amongst average Democrats. They consume and unquestionably believe mainstream media and entertainment.
    I can tell you right now, there are those on the 'right' that are EXACTLY the same way. Anything out of Fox or Trump's mouth is gospel, no matter if they were saying that gravity didnt exist while falling off a cliff.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    So the person who day one showed up telling us all what we'd feel when we got the Rona is trying to reinforce yet again, blue bad and red good.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    So, repubs need to not be critical thinkers, just go along with leaders like those evil democrats. Have to be united in our hate of those evil democrats eh?
    Um.

    My entire point is that republicans ARE the critical thinkers. Did you not get that? They sunk McCain in 2008. They sunk Romney in 2012. Senate candidates Perdue and Loeffler in GA last Nov. Establishment candidates don't get to Pass Go on the right.

    People always claiming we should be working with like-minded individuals across the spectrum, but I'd like to hear something besides platitudes. I gave an example of ending the war on drugs, which is about the only thing I have in common with the left anymore, as it exists today.

    What other issues, in the year 2021, can we work with democrats on? I'll wait.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 05-06-2021 at 05:37 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    Some of you still watch the news, and it shows.

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    No, you made it a point to say that this place has changed. It's now a place where we just ignore those big bad blues and beat up on fellow reds. It's division plain and simple.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    No, you made it a point to say that this place has changed. It's now a place where we just ignore those big bad blues and beat up on fellow reds. It's division plain and simple.
    I agree so stop beating up people trying to change the GOP all the time, and go beat up some people trying to change the Democratic party.

    OH wait. There aren't any.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    Some of you still watch the news, and it shows.

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