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    Exclamation Lavon Affair again? "Al Qaeda promises war on all fronts" as US prepares to withdraw troops

    If ISIS, Alqaeda want US to leave Afghanistan, why are such groups trying to increase carnage and attacks in Afghanistan when US is reportedly about to start troops withdrawal?


    The Guardian
    Afghanistan: car bomb kills at least 21 as US prepares to withdraw troops

    Scores also injured in the blast in southern city of Pul-e-Alam the day before Pentagon begins to pull out its remaining forces. Afghans wait ...
    18 hours ago


    CNN
    Al Qaeda promises 'war on all fronts' against America as Biden pulls out of Afghanistan

    America's "war on terror" is about to enter a new phase as President Joe Biden prepares to withdraw all US forces from Afghanistan by the 20th ...
    1 day ago




    There is no possibility that some actors benefiting from 'forever wars' could be trying to create instability in order to stop occupying Western forces exit from Afghanistan along the lines of infamous Lavon Affair terror atacks crafted by a differemt group of deep neocons who had aimed to stop Western troops exit from Egypt then?


    Israel honors terrorists who bombed US-UK civilian buildings with aim to create instability and stop Western troops exit from Egypt

    The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.
    After Israel publicly denied any involvement in the incident for 51 years, the surviving agents were officially honored in 2005 by being awarded certificates of appreciation by Israeli President Moshe Katzav.





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    Former Afghan President Karzai Calls Islamic State 'Tool' of US
    April 19, 2017
    KABUL AND WASHINGTON — Former Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Wednesday called the Islamic State terror group a "tool" of the United States, and dismissed criticism of Russia for its ties with Taliban and efforts to bring the militant group into peace talks.
    "After it [the U.S.] dropped the bomb on Afghanistan, it did not eliminate Daesh," Karzai said, referring to last week's "mother of all bombs [MOAB]" attack against Islamic State.
    "I consider Daesh their tool," Karzai told VOA's Afghan service in an exclusive interview in Kabul, using the Arabic acronym for IS. "I do not differentiate at all between Daesh and America."
    https://www.voanews.com/a/former-afg...s/3817463.html

    Karzai says US is using Afghanistan as weapons testing ground
    April 17, 2017
    KABUL // Former Afghan president Hamid Karzai said on Monday that the United States is using Afghanistan as a weapons testing ground, calling the recent use of the largest-ever non-nuclear bomb "an immense atrocity against the Afghan people".





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    The US military is allegedly allowing members of the ISIS, which have suffered serious defeats in Syria and neighboring Iraq, to infiltrate Afghanistan even as US is engaged with peace talks with Taliban for sake of stability in the landlocked country.



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    It should be noted that Former Prez Trump besides calling Biden's then boss "Founding Father of ISIS" had also repeatedly called above cited media outlet "Fake news".



    Trump Calls for Boycott of CNN Parent Co. AT&T



    Best to wait for confirmation from other reliable news sources.

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    Are there any Spy Ships in the Area?.. those are always good for an "incident".
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    It should be noted that Former Prez Trump besides calling Biden's then boss "Founding Father of ISIS" had also repeatedly called above cited media outlet "Fake news".



    Trump Calls for Boycott of CNN Parent Co. AT&T



    Best to wait for confirmation from other reliable news sources.
    I didn't know that you were a fan of Little Brian Stelter? No wonder you post the way you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I didn't know that you were a fan of Little Brian Stelter? No wonder you post the way you do.

    Brian Stelter, the 35 year old man who looks like he can pass for mid 40s to early 50s.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    10 hours ago
    The New York Times
    Afghan Blast on Eve of U.S. Pullout Deadline Kills at Least 27
    KABUL, Afghanistan — On the eve of a symbolic date for America's ...


    Probably was just coincidence, when calls for US troops withdrawal from Iraq had escalated last year, somewhat similar pattern was visible there also:


    ISIS Attacks Surge in Iraq Amid Debate on U.S. Troop Levels

    The growing pressure on the United States to reduce its military presence in Iraq comes as strikes by the Islamic State are on the rise.

    June 10, 2020
    As American and Iraqi negotiators begin a new round of strategic talks on Thursday, the question of how to respond to the Islamic State’s quiet resurgence — and how much American help is required to do so — will be at the center of the discussion.
    There are currently about 5,200 American troops in Iraq, whose main missions are counterterrorism and training Iraqi forces.
    The Trump administration, which sees the American presence as crucial for tamping down the resurgence of ISIS and as a bulwark against Iranian power in Iraq, wants to keep a substantial force there.
    “We’re going to continue to maintain forces as long as the Iraqi government is willing to have U.S. and coalition forces present in the country until the enduring defeat of Daesh is accomplished, and it’s not yet accomplished,” James F. Jeffrey, the American special envoy to the region, said in a briefing on Friday, using the Arabic acronym for ISIS. “That’s our policy.”
    nytimes.com/2020/06/10/world/middleeast/iraq-isis-strategic-dialogue-troops.html

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    Luckily MAGA top donor was alive at that time and Iraq exit calls were properly handled by America-Firster leadership then and Iraqi parliament was put in its place.



    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I didn't know that you were a fan of Little Brian Stelter? No wonder you post the way you do.
    Not any more.. ever since he started pushing 'Tucker Carlson is the New Donald Trump' narrative, I've stopped viewing him as a 'reliable source' for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Luckily MAGA top donor was alive at that time and Iraq exit calls were properly handled by America-Firster leadership then and Iraqi parliament was put in its place.
    I guess you're not referring to Hushang Ansary (a.k.a. Ansari), who was trustee for the Trump Victory joint fundraising committee and donated $2 million to the Trump Inaugural Committee (that's less than Adelson).

    Ansary had been minister in the Shah's Iranian government and was also Iran’s Ambassador to the US from 1967-1969.
    Before moving to the US when Ayatollah Khomeini was installed as the new Anglo-Dutch petrol friendly dictator of Iran.

    Ansary was the friend and business partner of Donald's and Clinton's buddy, British agent Henry Kissinger, and also close to Alexander Haig, and James Baker.
    Ansary served on the National Finance Committee of the Bush-Cheney 2004 Presidential Campaign and is a trustee of the George W. Bush Presidential Library: https://miningawareness.wordpress.co...ear-deal-1975/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I guess you're not referring to Hushang Ansary (a.k.a. Ansari), who was trustee for the Trump Victory joint fundraising committee and donated $2 million to the Trump Inaugural Committee (that's less than Adelson).

    Ansary had been minister in the Shah's Iranian government and was also Iran’s Ambassador to the US from 1967-1969.
    Before moving to the US when Ayatollah Khomeini was installed as the new Anglo-Dutch petrol friendly dictator of Iran.
    Wasn't aware of this donor and his role in lubricating the electioneering process but interesting info.
    Was referring to deep pockets of late great gambling empire mogul Sheldon "US should drop nukes on Iran" Adelson who had emerged as god-father of $$$ chasing wing of GOP in recent years.

    Sheldon Adelson Gave Trump and Republicans Over $424 Million
    newsweek.com › ... › Election 2020
    Jan 12, 2021 — The GOP megadonor, who has died aged 87, also gave over half a billion dollars to Republican causes..

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    Why would we be withdrawing troops when Biden changed the withdraw date to September 11th?
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Since ISIS terrorists don't like women's education, they should be primary suspects; unfortunately their vioelnce tends to show up at large scale in regions where taxpayers funded freedom, racial equality and other values rooted in our culrure are being spreaded at any given time (with expection of neoconservatives groomed Hollywood actor turned GOP leader Reagan and to some extent Dems leader Carter who openly armed, groomed and funded violent extremists, jihadis, foreign fighters etc to encourage attacks against Russian infidels few decades ago).


    At least 25 killed, 52 wounded in blast near Kabul girls' school

    By Jennifer Hauser, CNN
    Sat May 8, 2021

    An injured school student is transported to a hospital after the explosion on Saturday.

    (CNN)At least 25 people have been killed and 52 others wounded in an explosion near a high school for girls in the Afghan capital, Kabul.

    The Ministry of Interior (MOI) said the blast happened close to the Sayeed-ul-Shuhada School in the Dasht-e-Barchi area on Saturday afternoon.
    MOI spokesperson Tariq Arian said the number of casualties could increase.
    Officials have not revealed the cause of the explosion, or if there was a target. There has been no claim of responsibility yet.
    Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mojahid denied involvement in the explosion in a message to the media.

    According to Afghanistan's Tolo News, the incident happened when students were leaving the school. "A car bomb blast happened first, and then two more explosions occurred near the girls school in Kabul," said Ibrahim, a schoolteacher, according to Tolo. He added that the majority of victims are girls, Tolo reports.
    cnn.com/2021/05/08/asia/kabul-bomb-blast-school-intl/index.html



    Potentially-Related

    Was Reagan the worst President in US history?

    Reagan supports Islamic Jihadists -> Hero; Obama supports Islamic Jihadists -> Villain

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    Today they bombed a school, killing many children.

    It's so predictable. Everything is deceit.

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Since ISIS terrorists don't like women's education
    PHUCK YOU
    Get it Right.

    Afghans don't like Indoctrination..( Govt Schools)

    Don't Like Foriegn Governments much either.

    Go away and stop dying.

    $#@!,,the Russians learned that sooner than we did.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 05-08-2021 at 04:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    ...

    $#@!,,the Russians learned that sooner than we did.
    You jumped to the end result and may have skipped some important differentiating factors in that case:

    Quote:
    Election few years ago of a Russian migrant bouncer and "racist" Foreign Minister Lieberman was also linked to past decades sharp rise in Jewish migration out of USSR to Israel following defeat/breakeup of Soviet Union at the hands of assorted variety of violent Islamist Jihadis, Foreign Fighters, terrorists in Afghanistan (sometimes known as "ISIS 1.0", armed by Israel and funded by Reagan/Carter and various Jesus Return Prophecies driven Evangelical Christian (allegedly anti-semitic) outfits).
    From: How would US Media react if a "White Power" or "Christian Power" party became part of US gov?


    That is, 'Russian infidels' faced a broader and much more powerful alliance of well-funded violent extremists, Jihadists, Israelite, Reaganites, Deep Staters etc.
    Made sure to use quotation marks here so any sarcasm doesn't slip through as may have happened in previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    You jumped to the end result and may have skipped some important differentiating factors in that case:
    Ignoring your drivel,,
    Russia was getting it's butt kicked by Tribal Afghans who started with old bolt rifles,,and collected Russian arms.
    US jumped in to Phuck with the Russians,,who were already stuck in a quagmire.

    and now the us is stuck in the same quagmire. "the Graveyard of Empires"..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    cnn.com/2021/05/08/asia/kabul-bomb-blast-school-intl/index.html
    Afghan officials have said the Taliban has stepped up its attacks across the country ever since President Joe Biden announced plans last month to pull out all US troops by September 11.
    At least 55 people have died and 150 more were injured after a bomb attack near a high school in Kabul, Afghanistan. The majority of the victims were female students aged between 11 and 15 years old: https://www.businessinsider.nl/girls...capital-kabul/



    In 1983, actor turned US president Ronald Reagan met Chairman Yunis Khalis of the poppy growing Mujahidin of Afghanistan, who were supported to fight the cold war and later evolved into the Taliban, ISIS, and the rest as they say is history...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post

    In 1983, actor turned US president Ronald Reagan met Chairman Yunis Khalis of the poppy growing Mujahidin of Afghanistan, who were supported to fight the cold war and later evolved into the Taliban, ISIS, and the rest as they say is history...
    Drug money's role in Afghan freedom war project is a badly kept secret, other aspects have been a factor too.. such as keeping pressure on Iran from both sides (Iraq and Afghanistan), China, minerals, contractors gravy train etc. Iran has influence in Afghanistan as it does in Syria.
    That Reagan-Yunis Khalis meet and poppy connection seems credible, their leader's publicized message offering Reagan to become an Islamic convert may have been for consumption for domestic/foreign fighters waging violent Jihad (that Congress and MSM narrated as freedom fighting) against 'Russians Infidels'.


    nytimes.com/1988/04/18/world/arming-afghan-guerrillas-a-huge-effort-led-by-us.html

    Arming Afghan Guerrillas: A Huge Effort Led by U.S.

    By Robert Pear, Special To the New York Times
    April 18, 1988
    With help from China and many Moslem nations, the United States led a huge international operation over the last eight years to arm the Afghan guerrillas with the weapons they needed to drive the Soviet Army from their country.
    The operation is one of the biggest ever mounted by the Central Intelligence Agency, according to American officials and foreign diplomats. It dwarfs American efforts to aid the Nicaraguan rebels, but its details are much less widely known because it encountered little opposition in Congress.

    Indeed, Congress was continually prodding the C.I.A., the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the State Department to provide more support for the Afghan guerrillas, who limped along with relatively ineffective weapons until they got Stinger antiaircraft missiles in September 1986. They used the missiles to shoot down armored Soviet helicopter gunships, and as a result, the guerrillas and their supply caravans have been able to move with much less fear of being attacked from the air. Cost Totals $2 Bil

    * Arming the rebels has cost the United States more than $2 billion over eight years, although the exact amounts of appropriations are secret because the operation is not officially acknowledged by Washington. The program has had strong bipartisan support in Congress throughout.

    * The Government of Saudi Arabia has generally matched the United States financial contributions, providing money in a joint fund with Washington to buy hundreds of Stingers for the Islamic guerrillas even though Congress would not permit such sophisticated weapons to be sold to the Saudis themselves. In addition, several wealthy Saudi princes, motivated by a sense of religious duty and solidarity, gave cash contributions to the guerrillas.


    Other direct points of contact between the US government and mujahideen include the CIA flying Hekmatyar to the United States, where he was hosted by State Department official Zalmay Khalizad. Hekmatyar was invited to meet with President Reagan but refused, and was replaced at the White House's October 1985 conference with mujahideen by Younis Khalis, who publicly invited Reagan to convert to Islam. CIA agent Howard Hart developed a personal relationship with Abdul Haqwhich led to the Afghan meeting both Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Armitage regularly met with mujahideen, particularly Burhanuddin Rabbani. CIA agents are also known to have given direct cash payments to Jalaluddin Haqqani.

    Haqqani Network - National Counterterrorism Center
    Jalaluddin later allied with the Afghan Taliban as that group's Minister of Tribal and ... during the al-Qa'ida founder's formative years in the 1980s Afghan war. ... in 2012 designated the Haqqani Network as a Foreign Terrorist Organization ...

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    State Dept is staying steadfast on withdraw plan going by this report:


    Terror Attacks Surge in Afghanistan as U.S. Withdraws

    By Michael Kugelman

    Onlookers stand near the site of multiple blasts outside a girls’ school in Dasht-e-Barchi, Kabul, on May 9. WAKIL KOHSAR/AFP via Getty Images
    May 13, 2021, 6:00 PM

    The highlights this week: The U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan plays out against a rapidly deteriorating security situationAfghanistan’s Worsening Violence

    Even by its own standards, Afghanistan has seen a horrifically violent few weeks. Nearly 400 security forces and civilians were killed in April, according to New York Times data—the largest monthly total since November 2020. And the violence appears to be getting worse: Nearly 200 people were killed during the first week of May alone, including students killed near their school this week in the worst attack in 2021 so far.

    On April 30, a car bomb near a guesthouse in Logar province killed 27 people, many of them high school students. On Sunday, a roadside bomb ripped through a passenger bus in Zabul province, killing at least 11 people. And last Saturday, the country suffered its deadliest terror attack in months when a blast outside a school in Kabul killed 85 people, most of them young girls. With dozens more injured, the death toll is expected to rise.

    Increasing violence is not a new trend: The number of civilian casualties in Afghanistan has increased in the last year, and the last six weeks have been especially brutal. What makes these attacks even more terrifying is no group has claimed responsibility. The Taliban and the Islamic State are possible candidates as are other actors trying to disrupt the already troubled peace process. Many Afghans have taken out their anger on the government for not protecting them—discontent that benefits insurgents and others seeking to undermine Kabul.
    The surge in violence won’t change U.S. plans to withdraw all troops in Afghanistan by Sept. 11 at the latest and possibly as soon as early July. On Monday, State Department spokesperson Ned Price confirmed the plans are on track, and U.S. President Joe Biden has justified his withdrawal decision by citing the diminished terrorist threat to the United States. Relentless attacks on Afghans, horrific as they are, will not affect the U.S. exit strategy.

    oreignpolicy.com/2021/05/13/afghanistan-terror-attacks-violence-surge-us-withdrawal-taliban/

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    April 18, 1988
    With help from China and many Moslem nations, the United States led a huge international operation over the last eight years to arm the Afghan guerrillas with the weapons they needed to drive the Soviet Army from their country.
    The operation is one of the biggest ever mounted by the Central Intelligence Agency, according to American officials and foreign diplomats. It dwarfs American efforts to aid the Nicaraguan rebels, but its details are much less widely known because it encountered little opposition in Congress.
    Michael Pillsbury was one of the boys that armed the Afghan Mujahideen (that were later rebranded as Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS) with Stinger missiles for the Reagan-Bush White House to fight the Cold War.
    For Michael Pillsbury, the covert operations in Afghanistan represented the fulfillment of the decade-old dream of American military cooperation with China… To help him win the argument, Pillsbury made use of his China connections.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Pillsbury


    In one of those strange coincidences, Washington veteran Michael Pillsbury became a key figure behind Trump's China policy.
    Pillsbury first met lying Donald in October 2012, at a Manhattan fundraiser for Mitt Romney aboard the USS Intrepid: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lsbury-1034610
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    Bombs in Afghan capital Kabul kill at least 10, wound 12

    By TAMEEM AKHGAR and KATHY GANNON June 1, 2021
    An Afghan security personnel inspects the site of a bomb explosion in Kabul, Afghanistan, Tuesday, June 1, 2021. An Afghan government spokesman says two bombs exploded in quick succession in separate locations of a neighborhood in west Kabul, leaving multiple people dead and wounded. (AP Photo/Rahmat Gul)

    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Three bombs rattled the Afghan capital Kabul late Tuesday killing at least 10 people and plunging the city into darkness, an Afghan government spokesman said.

    Two bombs exploded in quick succession in separate locations of a west Kabul neighborhood, killing at least 10 people and wounding a dozen others, said deputy Interior Ministry spokesman Said Hamid Rushan.
    A third bomb heavily damaged an electrical grid station in north Kabul, said Sangar Niazai, a spokesman for the government power supply department.
    The initial two bombings, both targeting minivans, happened in a mostly ethnic Hazara area of the capital, said Rushan.
    apnews.com/article/islamic-state-group-kabul-ea33674c5db415c9a43d993e02fcfbba



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