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    The Democrat Leadership's $1.9 trillion money laundering operation

    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    People have to read these bills , the amount of pork is staggering . There may be 50 billion in the 2 trillion covid bill for covid .
    it is one of the largest money laundering operations in the history of mankind, and the Democrat big buck donors will get the lion's share just like they did under the Obama green energy money laundering operation when 80% of green energy money taxed away from the wages of hard working American Citizens WENT TO Obama's corporate donors!


    It's amazing how hard working wage earners continue to vote for the very con artists who financially rape their paychecks and have destroyed every inner city they have controlled for generations as Kimberly Klacik so eloquently demonstrated:





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    JWK


    When it comes to healthcare and helping the needy, our socialist Democrat Party Leadership has no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens who have invaded America’s borders.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Agreed.

    That's why I don't yip and holler about it anymore...nobody cares and it's never getting paid back.
    Thats how I see it , everybody has had well over a decade to try and do the best they can for themselves to be in a position to try and weather whatever comes because it doesnt look good .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Oh, yeah. It is. So overcooked you would bend a fork putting it in. Only option left is the dissolution of current government. Like a bankruptcy and restructuring. Stakeholders need to fire the entire board and write a new mission statement.
    A new mission statement for the federal corporation would mean a new constitution. You want to give these same people the ability to scrap the old one and make a new one?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    A new mission statement for the federal corporation would mean a new constitution. You want to give these same people the ability to scrap the old one and make a new one?
    Pretty much had an Article of Confederation in mind. I'd rather not weaken to the point of becoming a Chinese vassal state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Thats how I see it , everybody has had well over a decade to try and do the best they can for themselves to be in a position to try and weather whatever comes because it doesnt look good .
    It's all going to hell anyway, so take as much as the government is giving while you still can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Abolish The FED.
    Sure, but lets wait until at least 1 more round of PPP free money.

    My companies need a new boat
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Sure, but lets wait until at least 1 more round of PPP free money.

    My companies need a new boat
    I need more ammunition.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Sure, but lets wait until at least 1 more round of PPP free money.

    My companies need a new boat
    Need a captain?
    Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. - Heinrich Heine 1823

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Need a captain?
    Or a bartender?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Need a captain?
    Maybe. I can't decide if I want to build a new boat, or add a couch to my current boat

    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Or a bartender?
    Yup. Our current bartender $#@!ing Leroy only knows how to make Coors and Paps. 2 part Coors, 1 part Pappy Van Winkle

    It's pretty good actually
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Yup. Our current bartender $#@!ing Leroy only knows how to make Coors and Paps. 2 part Coors, 1 part Pappy Van Winkle

    It's pretty good actually
    Obviously, he doesn't hold a mixology license like the one I printed off the interwebs. What he is attempting is a Pabsty Van Winkle. 2 parts Pabst Blue Ribbon and 1 part Pappy van Winkle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Yup. Our current bartender $#@!ing Leroy only knows how to make Coors and Paps. 2 part Coors, 1 part Pappy Van Winkle

    It's pretty good actually
    Hopefully AOC will be looking for her old job in a little while. See if she'll bartend for you.
    ...

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Hopefully AOC will be looking for her old job in a little while. See if she'll bartend for you.
    I'm tired of minorities taking jobs from me that I am more qualified for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm tired of minorities taking jobs from me that I am more qualified for.
    That is white privilege. The progressive open borders crowd thinks that you are too good for such labor.
    ...

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Need a captain?
    Captains!

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm tired of minorities taking jobs from me that I am more qualified for.
    We should elect illegals and they can take the jobs our current reps have. LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    That is white privilege. The progressive open borders crowd thinks that you are too good for such labor.
    How about I dress in a rabbit costume? Can I get a non-human-binary furry credit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Hopefully AOC will be looking for her old job in a little while. See if she'll bartend for you.
    I wouldn't recommend AOC. She's a $#@!ty bartender that sucks at getting people drunk.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Abolish The FED.
    Abolish all federal institutions.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Has anyone actually taken a moment to appreciate our long memed and joked about idea of helicopter money coming to fruition?

    I was explaining to someone the other day that all this is is about getting the masses very comfortable and used to the idea of "free money." Like an addict, once they're hooked it's very hard to ween them off peacefully.

    This is just more welfare coming down the road. We will soon be at the point Idiocracy was at - nothing but dumb people left who sit in front of their tvs all day doing nothing.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Seems like a valid criticism whether it is principled or not. Worth noting Trump pushing for $2k stimmies is a big reason this bill passed. It put the Georgia senators in an impossible position and caused them to lose their runoffs.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It is a valid criticism. My post is an expression of my frustration that the same people who ignored or downplayed any such criticism for the past four years will suddenly find themselves to be true believers in fiscal responsibility yet again
    But there were rationales for supporting Trump's COVID stimulus bill...

    There was the "prevent an economic crisis" rationale:

    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    There has been such a massive buildup in private sector corporate debt. If you do nothing, you could have years of 20% unemployment. That situation won't hold. The bolded part in the article below is why I favor the nuclear weapons the Fed and government are using but I think we are in for a lot pain and potential systemic risk. The problem is this is a Faustian bargain. These actions just get us through the short term This whole thing is a massive experiment for high stakes and I am not so sure we are going to come out it as a great country.

    The country needs to reduce leverage to survive. This isn't over when the virus abates.



    https://www.guggenheiminvestments.co...ustian+bargain
    Then there was the "we deserve the money because of the lockdowns" rationale:

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    This is NOT welfare nor a stimulus payment.

    This is COMPENSATION for tanking the economy, causing 40,000,000 Americans to be unemployed and the destruction of thousands of businesses.



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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    But there were rationales for supporting Trump's COVID stimulus bill...
    I don't just mean his stimulus.


    He was a profligate spender even before COVID.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    In conclusion THE ONLY WAY BIDEN IS GOING TO SEE THE INSIDE OF THE OVAL OFFICE IS VIA THE A WHITEHOUSE PUBLIC TOUR

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Maybe. I can't decide if I want to build a new boat, or add a couch to my current boat

    It looks like an addition would be pretty easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    It looks like an addition would be pretty easy.
    The tricky part is adding a second level. That's how I lost my first boat, sadly some of my precious metals were lost in that accident as well
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Has anyone actually taken a moment to appreciate our long memed and joked about idea of helicopter money coming to fruition?

    I was explaining to someone the other day that all this is is about getting the masses very comfortable and used to the idea of "free money." Like an addict, once they're hooked it's very hard to ween them off peacefully.

    This is just more welfare coming down the road. We will soon be at the point Idiocracy was at - nothing but dumb people left who sit in front of their tvs all day doing nothing.
    Has it started? Little 600 to 1400 checks every 3-6 months isn't exactly dumping money from helicopters onto the street imo. Especially since they keep widdling down who is eligible further each time. 80% of the cost of these huge bills go into accounting black holes and don't much show up in the real economy. Wall St loves them. Crony contractors and donors love them. Average people get a few crumbs. That's not what I ever envisioned helicopter money being but ymmv.

    Once Fedcoin CBDC is rolled out in the midst of a collapse, directly into accounts, maybe then I'll consider it helicopter money though.
    Last edited by devil21; 03-08-2021 at 03:39 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Has it started? Little 600 to 1400 checks every 3-6 months isn't exactly dumping money from helicopters onto the street imo. Especially since they keep widdling down who is eligible further each time. 80% of the cost of these huge bills go into accounting black holes and don't much show up in the real economy. Wall St loves them. Crony contractors and donors love them. Average people get a few crumbs. That's not what I ever envisioned helicopter money being but ymmv.

    Once Fedcoin CBDC is rolled out in the midst of a collapse, directly into accounts, maybe then I'll consider it helicopter money though.
    Most of the helicopter money goes to businesses. The 1400 shimmy checks ain't $#@!
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Has anyone actually taken a moment to appreciate our long memed and joked about idea of helicopter money coming to fruition?

    I was explaining to someone the other day that all this is is about getting the masses very comfortable and used to the idea of "free money." Like an addict, once they're hooked it's very hard to ween them off peacefully.

    This is just more welfare coming down the road. We will soon be at the point Idiocracy was at - nothing but dumb people left who sit in front of their tvs all day doing nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Has it started? Little 600 to 1400 checks every 3-6 months isn't exactly dumping money from helicopters onto the street imo. Especially since they keep widdling down who is eligible further each time. 80% of the cost of these huge bills go into accounting black holes and don't much show up in the real economy. Wall St loves them. Crony contractors and donors love them. Average people get a few crumbs. That's not what I ever envisioned helicopter money being but ymmv.

    Once Fedcoin CBDC is rolled out in the midst of a collapse, directly into accounts, maybe then I'll consider it helicopter money though.
    Sure, that helicopter has been flying for a long time. It usually hovers over Wall St. and drops it all there, but this time, it hovered over Wall St. and Nancy Pelosi's house until 90% of the load is dropped, then it sprinkles that last bit randomly to the masses.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The tricky part is adding a second level. That's how I lost my first boat, sadly some of my precious metals were lost in that accident as well
    Tragic. Didn't all of your guns go down with that ship too?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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