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    Angry Covid19 Vaccine & INFORMED CONSENT - DON'T DO IT

    The US Code, the Helsinki Agreement and the Nuremburg Code protect citizens from forced vaccination by codifying the right to consent to or refuse vaccination when experimental vaccines like COVID-19 are being employed. The public won’t be informed of these legal protections.

    "At common law, even the touching of one person by another without consent and without legal justification was a battery. See W. Keeton, D. Dobbs, R. Keeton, & D. Owen, Prosser and Keeton on Law of Torts § 9, pp. 39-42 (5th ed. 1984). Before the turn of the century, this Court observed that "[n]o right is held more sacred, or is more carefully guarded, by the common law, than the right of every individual to the possession and control of his own person, free from all restraint or interference of others, unless by clear and unquestionable authority of law." Union Pacific R. Co. v. Botsford, 141 U.S. 250, 251 (1891). This notion of bodily integrity has been embodied in the requirement that informed consent is generally required for medical treatment. Justice Cardozo, while on the Court of Appeals of New York, aptly described this doctrine: "Every human being of adult years and sound mind has a right to determine what shall be done with his own body; and a surgeon who performs an operation without his patient's consent commits an assault, for which he is liable in damages." Schloendorff v. Society of New York Hospital, 211 N. Y. 125, 129-130, 105 N. E. 92, 93 (1914). The informed consent doctrine has become firmly entrenched in American tort law. See Keeton, Dobbs, Keeton, & Owen, supra, § 32, pp. 189-192; F. Rozovsky, Consent to Treatment, A Practical Guide 1-98 (2d ed. 1990). The logical corollary of the doctrine of informed consent is that the patient generally possesses the right not to consent, that is, to refuse treatment. Until about 15 years ago and the seminal decision in In re Quinlan, 70 N. J. 10, 355 A. 2d 647, cert. denied sub nom. Garger v. New Jersey, 429 U.S. 922 (1976), the number of right-to-refuse-treatment decisions was relatively few.*fn2 Most of the earlier cases involved patients who refused medical treatment forbidden by their religious beliefs, thus implicating First Amendment rights as well as common-law rights of self-determination.*fn3 More recently, however, with the advance of medical technology capable of sustaining life well past the point where natural forces would have brought certain death in earlier times, cases involving the right to refuse life-sustaining treatment have burgeoned. See 760 S. W. 2d, at 412, n. 4 (collecting 54 reported decisions from 1976 through 1988)."

    CRUZAN, BY HER PARENTS AND CO-GUARDIANS, CRUZAN ET UX
    v.
    DIRECTOR, MISSOURI DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, ET AL.


    110 S. Ct. 2841, 497 U.S. 261 (U.S. 06/25/1990)


    Most Americans know NOTHING about covid19 nor about an mRNA vaccine that took less than 9 months to prepare.


    Do not believe the gargantuan hype and propaganda being perpetrated by the Fake News Media aka The SEE BS Network and the Deep State Cabal designed to scare the f u c k out of Americans so they will not refuse to be vaccinated.

    Sad.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The US Code, the Helsinki Agreement and the Nuremburg Code protect citizens from forced vaccination by codifying the right to consent to or refuse vaccination when experimental vaccines like COVID-19 are being employed. The public won’t be informed of these legal protections.

    "At common law, even the touching of one person by another without consent and without legal justification was a battery. See W. Keeton, D. Dobbs, R. Keeton, & D. Owen, Prosser and Keeton on Law of Torts § 9, pp. 39-42 (5th ed. 1984). Before the turn of the century, this Court observed that "[n]o right is held more sacred, or is more carefully guarded, by the common law, than the right of every individual to the possession and control of his own person, free from all restraint or interference of others, unless by clear and unquestionable authority of law." Union Pacific R. Co. v. Botsford, 141 U.S. 250, 251 (1891). This notion of bodily integrity has been embodied in the requirement that informed consent is generally required for medical treatment. Justice Cardozo, while on the Court of Appeals of New York, aptly described this doctrine: "Every human being of adult years and sound mind has a right to determine what shall be done with his own body; and a surgeon who performs an operation without his patient's consent commits an assault, for which he is liable in damages." Schloendorff v. Society of New York Hospital, 211 N. Y. 125, 129-130, 105 N. E. 92, 93 (1914). The informed consent doctrine has become firmly entrenched in American tort law. See Keeton, Dobbs, Keeton, & Owen, supra, § 32, pp. 189-192; F. Rozovsky, Consent to Treatment, A Practical Guide 1-98 (2d ed. 1990). The logical corollary of the doctrine of informed consent is that the patient generally possesses the right not to consent, that is, to refuse treatment. Until about 15 years ago and the seminal decision in In re Quinlan, 70 N. J. 10, 355 A. 2d 647, cert. denied sub nom. Garger v. New Jersey, 429 U.S. 922 (1976), the number of right-to-refuse-treatment decisions was relatively few.*fn2 Most of the earlier cases involved patients who refused medical treatment forbidden by their religious beliefs, thus implicating First Amendment rights as well as common-law rights of self-determination.*fn3 More recently, however, with the advance of medical technology capable of sustaining life well past the point where natural forces would have brought certain death in earlier times, cases involving the right to refuse life-sustaining treatment have burgeoned. See 760 S. W. 2d, at 412, n. 4 (collecting 54 reported decisions from 1976 through 1988)."

    CRUZAN, BY HER PARENTS AND CO-GUARDIANS, CRUZAN ET UX
    v.
    DIRECTOR, MISSOURI DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, ET AL.


    110 S. Ct. 2841, 497 U.S. 261 (U.S. 06/25/1990)


    Most Americans know NOTHING about covid19 nor about an mRNA vaccine that took less than 9 months to prepare.


    Do not believe the gargantuan hype and propaganda being perpetrated by the Fake News Media aka The SEE BS Network and the Deep State Cabal designed to scare the f u c k out of Americans so they will not refuse to be vaccinated.

    Sad.


    Renowned scientist tells Laura Ingraham the COVID-19 vaccine is 'downright dangerous' and will send you 'to your doom'

    The expert, Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D., speaking on a Skype video link from his home in Germany,

    In response to Ingraham's final question, "So you think the COVID-19 vaccine is unnecessary?" Bhakdi replied: "I think it's downright dangerous. And I warn you, if you go along these lines, you are going to go to your doom" (emphasis added)

    Laura Ingraham, Fox News channel host: On the social distancing and the mask, just to focus on that for a moment, which of those two in your research and your work has been the most displaced?

    Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi: Both.

    Ingram: Both. Not backed up by the science.

    Bhakdi: Zero science.


    In a nutshell, the vaccine is unnecessary and will probably kill you , and face masks and social distancing are not suuported by science.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Renowned scientist tells Laura Ingraham the COVID-19 vaccine is 'downright dangerous' and will send you 'to your doom'

    The expert, Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D., speaking on a Skype video link from his home in Germany,

    In response to Ingraham's final question, "So you think the COVID-19 vaccine is unnecessary?" Bhakdi replied: "I think it's downright dangerous. And I warn you, if you go along these lines, you are going to go to your doom" (emphasis added)

    Laura Ingraham, Fox News channel host: On the social distancing and the mask, just to focus on that for a moment, which of those two in your research and your work has been the most displaced?

    Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi: Both.

    Ingram: Both. Not backed up by the science.

    Bhakdi: Zero science.


    In a nutshell, the vaccine is unnecessary and will probably kill you , and face masks and social distancing are not suuported by science.
    Make sure to use your state Informed Consent Form - here in South Carolina it must conformed with SC Annotated 44-66-10, et seq.




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    Last edited by Contumacious; 12-07-2020 at 09:32 PM.

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    Hot facts.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Hot facts.
    Of course, if Biden and the socialists win the election they will pack the court and the doctrine will be abolished.

    Sad

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    Good information.

    It is unconscionable for any party, private or government to attempt to require you to get this vaccine. (or any vaccine really)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Good information.

    It is unconscionable for any party, private or government to attempt to require you to get this vaccine. (or any vaccine really)
    There we concur

  9. #8
    So the question

    Should businesses be allowed to require a covid vaccine?

    actually means should a business be permitted to coerce & force employees to forego INFORMED CONSENT

    How the f u c k can an employer provide details about a vaccine which it knows nothing?

    How the f u c k can an employer be part of the INFORMED CONSENT loop without HIPPA authority ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    An employer would then be LIABLE in said employee is injured thereafter.


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    Last edited by Contumacious; 12-08-2020 at 10:20 AM.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Of course, if Biden and the socialists win the election they will pack the court and the doctrine will be abolished.

    Sad

    :-/

    When the Supreme Court Upheld a Compulsory Vaccination Law

    Hence why I call it the Supreme Fraud.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Last edited by pcosmar; 12-08-2020 at 05:38 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    :-/

    When the Supreme Court Upheld a Compulsory Vaccination Law

    Hence why I call it the Supreme Fraud.
    I'll pay the $5 fine.
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I'll pay the $5 fine.
    There you go - good man

    I disagree. With Jacobson vs Massachusetts , 197 US 11 (1902) . Informed consent was not an issue. The case ought to be reversed.

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    I intend to not consent to getting a coronavirus vaccination.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I intend to not consent to getting a coronavirus vaccination.
    🙏👌👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I intend to not consent to getting a coronavirus vaccination.
    Reported.
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    Freedom Advocate Explains How To Say No If COVID-19 Vaccination Becomes Mandatory

    "The first thing we must do is state our position clearly and on the record to those people who administer vaccines. We are certainly not protected if we haven’t even stated our position. You will see links to two free download documents at FreedomTaker.com. The first document is a requirement that all medical service and vaccine providers sign for you, to acknowledge the risks of vaccines, that they are causing that risk by offering vaccines, and that they accept full personal liability to pay for all damage they cause by administering a vaccine.

    Of course, if vaccines were safe and effective, they would not hesitate to sign a liability agreement… [but] they know they are doing harm, so most likely, they will refuse to sign that document, and refuse to be responsible for the harm they cause. That refusal to sign is evidence that they know that vaccines have risk, and you therefore are fully within your rights to refuse the vaccine regardless of any legal mandates. That type of document is referred to as a ‘Conditional Acceptance.’ You agree to have a vaccine if they agree to pay for all damage you suffer. They will refuse to sign it. And that gives you the right to refuse their vaccine, because they failed to meet your reasonable requirements of safety."
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Freedom Advocate Explains How To Say No If COVID-19 Vaccination Becomes Mandatory

    "The first thing we must do is state our position clearly and on the record to those people who administer vaccines. We are certainly not protected if we haven’t even stated our position. You will see links to two free download documents at FreedomTaker.com. The first document is a requirement that all medical service and vaccine providers sign for you, to acknowledge the risks of vaccines, that they are causing that risk by offering vaccines, and that they accept full personal liability to pay for all damage they cause by administering a vaccine.

    Of course, if vaccines were safe and effective, they would not hesitate to sign a liability agreement… [but] they know they are doing harm, so most likely, they will refuse to sign that document, and refuse to be responsible for the harm they cause. That refusal to sign is evidence that they know that vaccines have risk, and you therefore are fully within your rights to refuse the vaccine regardless of any legal mandates. That type of document is referred to as a ‘Conditional Acceptance.’ You agree to have a vaccine if they agree to pay for all damage you suffer. They will refuse to sign it. And that gives you the right to refuse their vaccine, because they failed to meet your reasonable requirements of safety."

    @Brian4Liberty, thanks to @Contumacious, perhaps this could be a sticky?

    __________________________________________________ __
    VACCINE
    CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    This document "accepts" vaccination on the condition that ALL administrators of that vaccine accept that there are risks and accept personal liability for all harm they cause with their vaccine. They will not sign it because they know vaccines are hazardous. When they refuse to sign, that is their admission of risk, and, with that admission, you may rightfully refuse the vaccine. A more complete explanation of this vaccination notice is below.
    __________________________________________________ __
    REFUSAL OF
    VACCINES

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    We may soon be facing "mandated" vaccines. Those who have studied vaccines know that vaccines come with severe hazards and we must resist and oppose unlawful forced medical treatments. If you do not state your position you can be poresumed to agree with any offer made to you.! This document is a formal refusal of medical testing. This document should be given to anyone who threatens to force medical treatment on us.
    __________________________________________________ __
    REFUSAL OF
    MEDICAL TESTING

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    If you are concerned that medical testing may be forced on you, and that results of that test may be used as an excuse to violate your rights, at the very least have a statement printed and ready which states your position. If you do not state your position you may be presumed to agree with any offer or demand made of you. You may download and print the REFUSAL OF MEDICAL TESTING at the link above and you may edit that as you wish to suit your own views.
    __________________________________________________ __

    FreedomTaker
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    @Brian4Liberty, thanks to @Contumacious, perhaps this could be a sticky?

    __________________________________________________ __
    VACCINE
    CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    This document "accepts" vaccination on the condition that ALL administrators of that vaccine accept that there are risks and accept personal liability for all harm they cause with their vaccine. They will not sign it because they know vaccines are hazardous. When they refuse to sign, that is their admission of risk, and, with that admission, you may rightfully refuse the vaccine. A more complete explanation of this vaccination notice is below.
    __________________________________________________ __
    REFUSAL OF
    VACCINES

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    We may soon be facing "mandated" vaccines. Those who have studied vaccines know that vaccines come with severe hazards and we must resist and oppose unlawful forced medical treatments. If you do not state your position you can be poresumed to agree with any offer made to you.! This document is a formal refusal of medical testing. This document should be given to anyone who threatens to force medical treatment on us.
    __________________________________________________ __
    REFUSAL OF
    MEDICAL TESTING

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    If you are concerned that medical testing may be forced on you, and that results of that test may be used as an excuse to violate your rights, at the very least have a statement printed and ready which states your position. If you do not state your position you may be presumed to agree with any offer or demand made of you. You may download and print the REFUSAL OF MEDICAL TESTING at the link above and you may edit that as you wish to suit your own views.
    __________________________________________________ __

    FreedomTaker
    🙏👌👍

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    @Brian4Liberty, thanks to @Contumacious, perhaps this could be a sticky?

    __________________________________________________ __
    VACCINE
    CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    This document "accepts" vaccination on the condition that ALL administrators of that vaccine accept that there are risks and accept personal liability for all harm they cause with their vaccine. They will not sign it because they know vaccines are hazardous. When they refuse to sign, that is their admission of risk, and, with that admission, you may rightfully refuse the vaccine. A more complete explanation of this vaccination notice is below.
    __________________________________________________ __
    REFUSAL OF
    VACCINES

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    We may soon be facing "mandated" vaccines. Those who have studied vaccines know that vaccines come with severe hazards and we must resist and oppose unlawful forced medical treatments. If you do not state your position you can be poresumed to agree with any offer made to you.! This document is a formal refusal of medical testing. This document should be given to anyone who threatens to force medical treatment on us.
    __________________________________________________ __
    REFUSAL OF
    MEDICAL TESTING

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    If you are concerned that medical testing may be forced on you, and that results of that test may be used as an excuse to violate your rights, at the very least have a statement printed and ready which states your position. If you do not state your position you may be presumed to agree with any offer or demand made of you. You may download and print the REFUSAL OF MEDICAL TESTING at the link above and you may edit that as you wish to suit your own views.
    __________________________________________________ __

    FreedomTaker
    Anarchy! Reported!
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

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    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

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    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    .
    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    + REP

    Why isn't this a thread of its own?
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    + REP

    Why isn't this a thread of its own?
    Done. Thanks
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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