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    They sure do act like one with all the destruction they cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post

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    I didn't watch the video. But you can't let the government declare BLM a domestic terror group. It sets a precedent a future administration could use against you. Imagine if RPF is declared a domestic terror organization? Maybe a stretch but they could certainly do it to groups like III% or Oath keepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    On the plus side, he now has a video available to be able to "prosecute" the individuals responsible.
    If the stampman tells you to kiss his ass, shall he get away with it and live? Don't let your courage cool, or a few bullies scare you. We've nothing to fear but slavery. Love your liberty, and fight for it like men who know its value. Once lost it will never, never be regained.
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    Scumbag named 'Keese Love' kicked that man in the head

    4Chan found the guy -"ramp agent at Portland International Airport". They're saying the "security" jacket is from his job.
    4Chan Identifies One of the Portland Rioters Who Attempted to Kill Driver as ‘Keese Love’
    By Cassandra Fairbanks
    Published August 17, 2020 at 2:43am

    ...The animal who ran up and punched the man after he had already been brutally beaten to the point of nearly losing consciousness has been identified by 4Chan users as Keese Love, whose Facebook profile lists him as a ramp agent at Portland International Airport. He also works as a DJ in the evenings.

    His real name is believed to be Marquise Love...
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ver-keese-love

    https://twitter.com/ClownWorldNews1/...62272655208454

    It looks like the person robbed and beaten by BLM protesters in downtown Portland tonight is a trans woman. She pleads for her backpack back. Her longboard was also stolen. She may be transient. The man who tried to protect her was later beaten himself & kicked unconscious.
    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...85036678168576

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I didn't watch the video. But you can't let the government declare BLM a domestic terror group. It sets a precedent a future administration could use against you. Imagine if RPF is declared a domestic terror organization? Maybe a stretch but they could certainly do it to groups like III% or Oath keepers.
    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I didn't watch the video. But you can't let the government declare BLM a domestic terror group. It sets a precedent a future administration could use against you. Imagine if RPF is declared a domestic terror organization? Maybe a stretch but they could certainly do it to groups like III% or Oath keepers.
    Guess you don't recall the MIAC Report.

    http://1776now.org/secret-state-poli...re-terrorists/

    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    March 12, 2009

    Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.

    The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

    “Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner,” explains the MIAC website. “MIAC is the mechanism to collect incident reports of suspicious activities to be evaluated and analyzed in an effort to identify potential trends or patterns of terrorist or criminal operations within the state of Missouri. MIAC will also function as a vehicle for two-way communication between federal, state and local law enforcement community within our region.”

    and the Fusion Centers...

    https://www.dhs.gov/fusion-center-lo...ct-information

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_center

    MIAC report
    Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) made news in 2009 for targeting supporters of third party candidates, Ron Paul supporters, anti-abortion activists, and conspiracy theorists as potential militia members.[17] Anti-war activists and Islamic lobby groups were targeted in Texas, drawing criticism from the ACLU.[18]


    According to the Department of Homeland Security:[19]

    [T]he Privacy Office has identified a number of risks to privacy presented by the fusion center program:

    Justification for fusion centers
    Ambiguous Lines of Authority, Rules, and Oversight
    Participation of the Military and the Private Sector
    Data Mining
    Excessive Secrecy
    Inaccurate or incomplete information
    Mission Creep
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 11-10-2020 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Guess you don't recall the MIAC Report.

    http://1776now.org/secret-state-poli...re-terrorists/

    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    March 12, 2009

    Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.

    The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

    “Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner,” explains the MIAC website. “MIAC is the mechanism to collect incident reports of suspicious activities to be evaluated and analyzed in an effort to identify potential trends or patterns of terrorist or criminal operations within the state of Missouri. MIAC will also function as a vehicle for two-way communication between federal, state and local law enforcement community within our region.”

    and the Fusion Centers...

    https://www.dhs.gov/fusion-center-lo...ct-information

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_center

    MIAC report
    Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) made news in 2009 for targeting supporters of third party candidates, Ron Paul supporters, anti-abortion activists, and conspiracy theorists as potential militia members.[17] Anti-war activists and Islamic lobby groups were targeted in Texas, drawing criticism from the ACLU.[18]


    According to the Department of Homeland Security:[19]

    [T]he Privacy Office has identified a number of risks to privacy presented by the fusion center program:

    Justification for fusion centers
    Ambiguous Lines of Authority, Rules, and Oversight
    Participation of the Military and the Private Sector
    Data Mining
    Excessive Secrecy
    Inaccurate or incomplete information
    Mission Creep
    That is some redneck state cops profiling. Not the federal government. If the feds do it, they can hold you without representation or trial indefinitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    That is some redneck state cops profiling. Not the federal government. If the feds do it, they can hold you without representation or trial indefinitely.
    A Fusion center is a co-op between the Feds and the locals.
    And let me know when RPF organizes violence and property destruction to coerce political outcomes.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I didn't watch the video. But you can't let the government declare BLM a domestic terror group. It sets a precedent a future administration could use against you. Imagine if RPF is declared a domestic terror organization? Maybe a stretch but they could certainly do it to groups like III% or Oath keepers.
    No comparison! Neither RPFs, III% or Oath keepers ever committed any violence. You'll have to watch the videos if you want to know what this one is about. There's a sequence of events that occurred - a series of attacks that went from one victim to the next - each victim being a good samaritan who tried to intervene on behalf of the victim that proceeded him - anonymous guy, to trans person, to guy from truck, to his wife, back to guy in truck... It's disgusting. These people belong in prison... and $#@! George Floyd.

    This incident may be the one that pushes it all over the edge and turns things around. Pathetic democrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    No comparison! Neither RPFs, III% or Oath keepers ever committed any violence. You'll have to watch the videos if you want to know what this one is about. There's a sequence of events that occurred - a series of attacks that went from one victim to the next - each victim being a good samaritan who tried to intervene on behalf of the victim that proceeded him - anonymous guy, to trans person, to guy from truck, to his wife, back to guy in truck... It's disgusting. These people belong in prison... and $#@! George Floyd.

    This incident may be the one that pushes it all over the edge and turns things around. Pathetic democrats!
    Prison yes of course. Labeled a domestic terrorist by the feds and taken to gitmo or a black site with process of law, no. These people can be dealt with by local police for the crimes they commit. There is no need to get the FBI or the federal government involved. Once you go down that road, it can be used against any group that is out of favor with the next administration. That is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Prison yes of course. Labeled a domestic terrorist by the feds and taken to gitmo or a black site with process of law, no. These people can be dealt with by local police for the crimes they commit. There is no need to get the FBI or the federal government involved. Once you go down that road, it can be used against any group that is out of favor with the next administration. That is the problem.
    These people are working with and for foreign agents bent on destroying America.
    They should be treated as terrorists and given the proper due process of law that applies to terrorists and traitors.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    These people are working with and for foreign agents bent on destroying America.
    They should be treated as terrorists and given the proper due process of law that applies to terrorists and traitors.
    I doubt you can prove that. They are petty criminals who can be handled by local law enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    That's a subjective opinion and seems that private JBS and taxpayers funded elected Trump administration have very different criterion regarding such difinitions:

    Trump supports BLM
    Aug 2015
    (Source: Donald Trump On The issues https://www.ontheissues.org/donald_trump.htm)

    Trump Deputy AG Rosenstein on recent mass shootings: “white terrorism” is more precise

    Trump appointed FBI Director Wray says most domestic terrorism arrests this year involve white supremacy
    07/23/19

    George is right. Killing random civilians to spread a political message is terrorism. FBI classifies it as domestic terrorism, but “white terrorism” is more precise. Many of the killers are lone-wolf losers indoctrinated to hate through the internet, just like Islamic terrorists. https://t.co/uyyjkoh1fR

    Rod Rosenstein (@RodRosenstein) August 4, 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    A Fusion center is a co-op between the Feds and the locals.
    And let me know when RPF organizes violence and property destruction to coerce political outcomes.

    "The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties."

    I don't recall any of these people organizing "violence and property destruction to coerce political outcomes," and yet they absolutely were designated as "terrorists" in the MIAC Report produced by one if the Fusion Centers whom you correctly note opperate in co-operation with the federal government. So, your glib attempt to dismiss the danger of other peaceful groups being so designated in the future stands revealed as the hopelessly recklessly naive foolishness that it is.

    Why is it that you so often come down squarely in favor of the feds being allowed to exercise powers which are so obviously dangerous to and destructive of liberty?
    Last edited by CCTelander; 08-17-2020 at 11:53 PM.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    "The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties."

    I don't recall any of these people organizing "violence and property destruction to coerce political outcomes," and yet they absolutely were designated as "terrorists" in the MIAC Report produced by one if the Fusion Centers whom you correctly note opperate in co-operation with the federal government. So, your glib attempt to dismiss the danger of other peaceful groups being so designated in the future stands revealed as the hopelessly recklessly naive foolishness that it is.

    Why is it that you so often come down squarely in favor of the feds being allowed to exercise powers which are so obviously dangerous to and destructive of liberty?
    You completely missed the point. (as usual)

    The MIAC report already set the precedent so there is no new precedent to set and BLM does use violence and property destruction to coerce political outcomes which means they ARE terrorists and even if there was no MIAC report designating them terrorists would not set a precedent that could apply to people who don't do terrorist acts.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I guess it depends on who thinks they are being terrorized by them as to weather or not they are terrorist. I don't like that they are looting and destroying stuff and attacking people. It looks like they are taking over America and they have managed to capture the mind of our youth. I don't know what to think about them. It does seem like nobody is really opposing them or trying to stop them in any effective way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    That is some redneck state cops profiling. Not the federal government. If the feds do it, they can hold you without representation or trial indefinitely.
    Patriot Act continues to be renewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I doubt you can prove that. They are petty criminals who can be handled by local law enforcement.
    Report: Obama/Brennan Imported Overseas Terrorists Into US To Form ANTIFA

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Those are not reputable sources



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Those are not reputable sources
    Yes they are and there are more.
    In addition to all the well known ties the rioters and the Demoncrats have to Soros and the ChiComs.

    See also:

    The Plot Against America – Secret History Of ANTIFA & British Intelligence

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I doubt you can prove that. They are petty criminals who can be handled by local law enforcement.
    Radio Free Asia (RFA) published an article explaining the reason that the U.S. closed China’s Consulate in Houston.

    The article stated that the U.S. has known that the staff members at the consulate were conducting suspicious activities, but, for a while, it did not take any action. The Second Department of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA), which is the PLA’s intelligence unit, sent staff members from a large network company, with fake IDs, to China’s Consulate in Houston. Those technicians used a large video platform’s backend data to identify people who might participate in the Black Lives Matter (BLM) and ANTIFA’s protests and then created and sent them customized videos on how to organize riots and how to do promotions.

    The purpose was to “weaponize” big data technology. It delivered relevant materials precisely to those people who were most likely to participate in the protests, while other people could not even find those videos.

    RFA did not spell out the company names. A Twitter account said the technicians were from Huawei and the video platform they used to identify candidates and push videos to was TikTok.

    More at: http://chinascope.org/archives/24225...34729003906250
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Radio Free Asia (RFA) published an article explaining the reason that the U.S. closed China’s Consulate in Houston.

    The article stated that the U.S. has known that the staff members at the consulate were conducting suspicious activities, but, for a while, it did not take any action. The Second Department of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA), which is the PLA’s intelligence unit, sent staff members from a large network company, with fake IDs, to China’s Consulate in Houston. Those technicians used a large video platform’s backend data to identify people who might participate in the Black Lives Matter (BLM) and ANTIFA’s protests and then created and sent them customized videos on how to organize riots and how to do promotions.

    The purpose was to “weaponize” big data technology. It delivered relevant materials precisely to those people who were most likely to participate in the protests, while other people could not even find those videos.

    RFA did not spell out the company names. A Twitter account said the technicians were from Huawei and the video platform they used to identify candidates and push videos to was TikTok.

    More at: http://chinascope.org/archives/24225...34729003906250
    Wow! Crazy $#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    4Chan found the guy -"ramp agent at Portland International Airport". They're saying the "security" jacket is from his job.
    4Chan Identifies One of the Portland Rioters Who Attempted to Kill Driver as ‘Keese Love’
    By Cassandra Fairbanks
    Published August 17, 2020 at 2:43am

    ...The animal who ran up and punched the man after he had already been brutally beaten to the point of nearly losing consciousness has been identified by 4Chan users as Keese Love, whose Facebook profile lists him as a ramp agent at Portland International Airport. He also works as a DJ in the evenings.

    His real name is believed to be Marquise Love...
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ver-keese-love

    https://twitter.com/ClownWorldNews1/...62272655208454

    It looks like the person robbed and beaten by BLM protesters in downtown Portland tonight is a trans woman. She pleads for her backpack back. Her longboard was also stolen. She may be transient. The man who tried to protect her was later beaten himself & kicked unconscious.
    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...85036678168576
    He just got 20 months for 3rd-degree assault and felony riot:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...01018753069056

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    He just got 20 months for 3rd-degree assault and felony riot:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...01018753069056
    Well that kid from Wi got life and this BLM protestor gets a slap on his wrist.

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    If that is the case, would Trump and first family members support it?
    JBS folks should consider implications before raising such questions.

    'Justice for George Floyd': Donald Trump's Daughter Supports Black Lives Matter Protests



    Tiffany Trump shareda post seeking justice for George Floyd on Instagram amid the 'Black Lives Matter' protest | Image credit: Reuters
    June 4, 2020


    Donald Trump supports Black Lives Matter

    Pushed town council to allow blacks & Jews into Mar-a-Lago. (Aug 2016)
    Black lives matter,
    but we need strong police presence. (Aug 2015)
    Created first club in Palm Beach open to blacks & Jews. (Oct 1997)

    Source:
    Donald Trump On The Issues
    https://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

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