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    Obama = Dexter?

    Is that why everybody is ok with this whole al-Awlaki thing, because even though what Obama did was not legal, they have been convinced by the tv that it is morally justifiable and so we should accept it and even praise it?

    Am I missing something?


    edit: By "everybody" I mean the vast majority of public figures and politicians, except for Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Gary Johnson, etc..
    Last edited by dannno; 10-05-2011 at 10:19 AM.
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    I see a certain amount of truth in your equation. It has been a long process but you would only have to look back a generation to see how T.V. has changed and from there not much of a jump knowing how media influences. No more "Black-and-White" good guy captures the villain and delivers him to the courts just color and all its ugliness.

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    bump
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I guess I should have put al-Awlaki in the title, is Obama = Dexter really not provocative enough to get one single view in new posts these days?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I prefer comparing him to Hitler rather than Dexter, personally.

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    Judging by the fact that Dexter is popular, does this surprise you that people would think it's Okie dokie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Judging by the fact that Dexter is popular, does this surprise you that people would think it's Okie dokie?
    The public is inundated with war propaganda - from the government, hollywood, the media, TV, etc. They have been taught to love murder as long as it's done by someone who is from the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    I prefer comparing him to Hitler rather than Dexter, personally.
    I don't know if that analogy works very well as this was a targeted assassination against an individual who was demonized by the tv.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    I don't think so because in the show, Dexter always finds DNA or other evidence that proves that the guy is guilty. No one has actually seen the evidence for Al-whatshisname, they are just taking the government's word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    I don't think so because in the show, Dexter always finds DNA or other evidence that proves that the guy is guilty. No one has actually seen the evidence for Al-whatshisname, they are just taking the government's word for it.
    Well that was sort of part of the point, that on Dexter the tv uses a couple small pieces of evidence that seem to prove that they are guilty and everybody accepts it. I haven't watched the series in a while. They GENERALLY do a pretty good job of convincing the audience that the perp is in fact guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. We TRUST Dexter that he isn't muddying around with the DNA or blood evidence and that there is no other possible explanation for why it was found there or why the person was murdered. We trust solely in Dexter's judgement and what we as an audience are given is factual.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Well that was sort of part of the point, that on Dexter the tv uses a couple small pieces of evidence that seem to prove that they are guilty and everybody accepts it. I haven't watched the series in a while. They GENERALLY do a pretty good job of convincing the audience that the perp is in fact guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. We TRUST Dexter that he isn't muddying around with the DNA or blood evidence and that there is no other possible explanation for why it was found there or why the person was murdered. We trust solely in Dexter's judgement and what we as an audience are given is factual.
    It might be interesting to have a Dexter series where they go back and show how all of his perps that he murdered were innocent and he made up evidence to convince his own delusional mind, which represents his tv audience, that his murderous actions were justified.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Well that was sort of part of the point, that on Dexter the tv uses a couple small pieces of evidence that seem to prove that they are guilty and everybody accepts it. I haven't watched the series in a while. They GENERALLY do a pretty good job of convincing the audience that the perp is in fact guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. We TRUST Dexter that he isn't muddying around with the DNA or blood evidence and that there is no other possible explanation for why it was found there or why the person was murdered. We trust solely in Dexter's judgement and what we as an audience are given is factual.
    We KNOW the killer is guilty because in addition to the evidence, they always admit it at the end when Dexter kills them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    We KNOW the killer is guilty because in addition to the evidence, they always admit it at the end when Dexter kills them.
    Hmm, ya, I guess Dexter would have to be delusional and you'd have to replay the real kill scenes to make that work.

    Even without all that, I still think it's an interesting analogy.. it's not like the person on the tv really killed somebody in real life, the point was the tv convinced people and so now it's ok to kill them.
    Last edited by dannno; 10-05-2011 at 12:47 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  16. #14
    in Dexter's defense, he isn't even a cop; if he were, I'd have a BIG problem with that show: you can either be a cop or a vigilante -- not both (goes for presidents, too). would we even be discussing this, if it had been some random lab-geek who went postal on this guy, instead of the highest executive officer of the US Constitution?

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    Good point dannno. For the life of me I don't understand Dexter's popularity, especially here at RPF. And folks who don't think TV influences culture are just kidding themselves. (Rant off).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary Man View Post
    in Dexter's defense, he isn't even a cop; if he were, I'd have a BIG problem with that show: you can either be a cop or a vigilante -- not both (goes for presidents, too). would we even be discussing this, if it had been some random lab-geek who went postal on this guy, instead of the highest executive officer of the US Constitution?
    So if an IRS field agent guns someone down it's suddenly okay cause he's not a cop? But hey, to the folks that like Dexter more power to you....I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Is that why everybody is ok with this whole al-Awlaki thing, because even though what Obama did was not legal, they have been convinced by the tv that it is morally justifiable and so we should accept it and even praise it?

    Am I missing something?


    edit: By "everybody" I mean the vast majority of public figures and politicians, except for Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Gary Johnson, etc..
    I think a better discussion would be do you think Dexter's actions are morally justifiable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    I prefer comparing him to Hitler rather than Dexter, personally.
    This. Pretty much the only difference is Obama hasn't killed 6 million Jews....yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So if an IRS field agent guns someone down it's suddenly okay cause he's not a cop? But hey, to the folks that like Dexter more power to you....I guess.
    okay? no. different? yes.



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