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    I have been wondering about that too.
    It does not (as yet) compute.
    Added to my RAM to await further processing as more input is available.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Didnt every guest defend bubba? That website makes no sense and I didnt watch the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsTime View Post
    Didnt every guest defend bubba? That website makes no sense and I didnt watch the video.
    Yup, they were.
    But for the last 20+ years they ( the media) have been painting Militia, Bubba and Constitutionalists as Domestic terrorists, or as Kooks.
    Why the change, what is the purpose of this coverage?
    It is curious.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsTime View Post
    Didnt every guest defend bubba?
    No.

    That website makes no sense and I didnt watch the video.


    Which is probably why you don't understand the website, since it's based on the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Yup, they were.
    But for the last 20+ years they ( the media) have been painting Militia, Bubba and Constitutionalists as Domestic terrorists, or as Kooks.
    Why the change, what is the purpose of this coverage?
    It is curious.
    FOX its a busines. Now the audience wants constitution so they give them constitution.

    Hugo

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugolp View Post
    FOX its a busines. Now the audience wants constitution so they give them constitution.

    Hugo
    Fox is a tool, owned and controlled by the largest media empire on earth, a media empire that has the power to start wars, topple politicians, and direct public sentiment wherever its owners wish.
    "They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems ... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."
    Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990


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    Originally Posted by ItsTime
    Didnt every guest defend bubba?
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    No.

    The first guests did, but I am not sure about Beck. He seemed to want to steer it in another direction.

    FOX its a busines. Now the audience wants constitution so they give them constitution.
    I don't think so.
    Fox is a tool, owned and controlled by the largest media empire on earth, a media empire that has the power to start wars, topple politicians, and direct public sentiment wherever its owners wish.
    Yup,as are CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, they are propaganda tools They occasionally tell part of the truth but ofter are more interested in directing public opinion.
    Question is , what are they up to?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Yup,as are CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, they are propaganda tools They occasionally tell part of the truth but ofter are more interested in directing public opinion.
    Question is , what are they up to?
    My sentiments exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    My sentiments exactly.
    processing
    need more data
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    FOX peddles doomsday - why?
    Controlled opposition. Sewing the seeds of discontent in America. Glenn Beck is a tool. FYI. The powers WANT a civil war in America. They want chaos. They want death. They want us to destroy ourselves. Order out of Chaos.

    There is a reason people like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Gerald Celente, etc., etc., are all of a sudden ALLOWED to have a voice in the MSM....to sow those seeds of discontent. I'm not saying RP and Peter Schiff are doing it intentionally but it serves the agenda now so......

    It's not like civil war hasn't been planned for. All one has to do is look at the executive orders put in place by Bush. FEMAS camps have been built for a REASON the past 7 yrs.

    Glenn Beck, on the other hand, is doing it intentionally. Someone has to tell the dumbdowned America's that they should be pissed...otherwise, most of them wouldn't even know there was a problem.

    America is being demonized. America is being destroyed from within. Order out of Chaos is the motto. From the ashes of America, the NWO will arise. That is the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotOne View Post
    Controlled opposition. Sewing the seeds of discontent in America. Glenn Beck is a tool. FYI. The powers WANT a civil war in America. They want chaos. They want death. They want us to destroy ourselves. Order out of Chaos.

    There is a reason people like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Gerald Celente, etc., etc., are all of a sudden ALLOWED to have a voice in the MSM....to sow those seeds of discontent. I'm not saying RP and Peter Schiff are doing it intentionally but it serves the agenda now so......

    It's not like civil war hasn't been planned for. All one has to do is look at the executive orders put in place by Bush. FEMAS camps have been built for a REASON the past 7 yrs.

    Glenn Beck, on the other hand, is doing it intentionally. Someone has to tell the dumbdowned America's that they should be pissed...otherwise, most of them wouldn't even know there was a problem.

    America is being demonized. America is being destroyed from within. Order out of Chaos is the motto. From the ashes of America, the NWO will arise. That is the plan.
    Could not agree with you more. Beck showed his colors when he went to Fox news,imho...Would not surprise me if tptb have this motto as a plaque on the wall.
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    Having individual talk show hosts peddle doomsday doesn't mean that Fox is peddling doomsday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazy kaju View Post
    Having individual talk show hosts peddle doomsday doesn't mean that Fox is peddling doomsday.
    I don't follow fox news since the shafting of Dr.Paul, but judging by the posts that show up here from their news center it seems they are consistently peddling doom and gloom. This is more than Beck who has always had a mormon end of the world attitude anyways.
    We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota


    Go Forward With Courage

    When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
    when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
    So long as mists envelop you, be still;
    be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
    -- as it surely will.
    Then act with courage.

    Ponca Chief White Eagle

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    FOX makes no sense to me. they were anything and everything the bush people do and the government does is A OK!,,...but now it is anti Washington. i just think its whatever and ehhh!~

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    Fox will overhype whatever is out there. Audience size is more important than their supposed claim of being "balanced and fair". That is overhype too. "The world is ending. Tune in at 11:00. " "The next Big Crisis" It is all about selling.



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    Doomsday, fear, hate, aggression, these are the easiest ways to go about directing the "lowest common denominator."

    It works, you see their garbage parroted here all the time.
    Last edited by constituent; 03-09-2009 at 08:02 AM.
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    It seems they're trying to frighten and anger republicans as much as possible. Now the republicans hate democrats and democrats hate them, and they will be used against each other. The country is more divided than ever before.

    Divided we fall.

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    Same song, millionth verse. When they were playing up stocks even as they fell, we could see their agenda clearly. Now that we're in phase two, which involves downplaying stocks and selling the safe havens that both we and they went to early, we're lost. Could it be we have a blind spot when it comes to gold?

    When the market is about to crash, you get out of it and into safe havens to preserve the value you have. When the market has reached its nadir, those who want to turn a profit get out of their havens and back in the market to get those great bargains. Then comes the inflation, and of all the 'safe havens' only precious metals retain any sort of safety, and those (if you hold onto them long enough) will drop in value as well. As for cash and bonds, well, you wind up feeding the Fed through inflation.

    I think the market is about six weeks from its nadir. This is what Martin Armstrong's Pi Cycle predicts (now there's an interesting thing to plug into a search engine. The sites keep disappearing, so excuse me if I don't bother to post a link). So, it's time.

    We saw the game in 1929-1933, and we're seeing it again. And the media's plausible deniability will be 'conventional wisdom' as usual.

    Quote Originally Posted by sevin View Post
    Divided we fall.
    An even more sinister view, but also full of merit imo.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-09-2009 at 08:06 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    These days? That's always what has passed for conservatism.

    And exactly the same thing goes for (modern) liberalism, too.

    They just disagree about what should be forced upon whom.

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    Its reverse psychology and seems to be working.

    PS. I still didnt watch the video. I scanned through it. Seems to just be an illegally uploaded video of Glenn Beck that the website is trying to profit off.

    So much for property rights.

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    I hope that if violence breaks out it won't just be senseless rioting in the streets but will be directed at the source of the problems.

    But I don't have very high expectations of that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post
    I hope that if violence breaks out it won't just be senseless rioting in the streets but will be directed at the source of the problems.

    But I don't have very high expectations of that happening.
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    I see this as our greatest obstacle and our greatest opportunity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    These days? That's always what has passed for conservatism.

    And exactly the same thing goes for (modern) liberalism, too.

    They just disagree about what should be forced upon whom.

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    Fox is pretty much owned by the Republicans and corporate America. There has been a large shift of political power away from them and to the Democrats. We shouldn't wonder why, all of a sudden, Fox is using doomsday rhetoric! Doomsday is already here, from their perspective, the day Obama took office. They are using all the tools in their disposal, yes even including that dreaded (to them) document, the Constitution, to chip away at Obama's legitimacy. Of course they'd never bring up the Constitution when a Republican was in office, no matter how flagrantly that administration violated it.

    But the smallest violation by Obama will bring an avalanche of criticism from Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by constituent View Post
    Doomsday, fear, hate, aggression, these are the easiest ways to go about directing the "lowest common denominator."

    It works, you see their garbage parroted here all the time.
    But don't you see that all the bashing of someone's faith, or the pitting of traditional conservatives, constitutionalists, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists, against each other, is doing the very same thing? Dividing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotOne View Post
    Controlled opposition. Sewing the seeds of discontent in America. Glenn Beck is a tool. FYI. The powers WANT a civil war in America. They want chaos. They want death. They want us to destroy ourselves. Order out of Chaos.

    There is a reason people like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Gerald Celente, etc., etc., are all of a sudden ALLOWED to have a voice in the MSM....to sow those seeds of discontent. I'm not saying RP and Peter Schiff are doing it intentionally but it serves the agenda now so......

    It's not like civil war hasn't been planned for. All one has to do is look at the executive orders put in place by Bush. FEMAS camps have been built for a REASON the past 7 yrs.

    Glenn Beck, on the other hand, is doing it intentionally. Someone has to tell the dumbdowned America's that they should be pissed...otherwise, most of them wouldn't even know there was a problem.

    America is being demonized. America is being destroyed from within. Order out of Chaos is the motto. From the ashes of America, the NWO will arise. That is the plan.
    Well said.

    They are ensuring the people have a civil war instead of uniting and having a revolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    But don't you see that all the bashing of someone's faith, or the pitting of traditional conservatives, constitutionalists, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists, against each other, is doing the very same thing? Dividing.
    Excellent response.

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    Ratings

    They also probably bought a ton of stock in canaries and survival equipment companies before hand.

    -t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post
    I hope that if violence breaks out it won't just be senseless rioting in the streets but will be directed at the source of the problems.

    But I don't have very high expectations of that happening.
    "It is the common experience of mankind that in moments of great excitement the conscious mental processes of the brain no longer operate. All actions are subconscious, the result of habits. Troops whose training and discipline depend on conscious thought become helpless crowds in battle. To send forth such men is murder. Hence, in creating an Army, we must strive at the production of soldiers, so trained that in the midst of battle they will still function." GEN Patton
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

    Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.

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    Quite simply, I think they realized that they pushed the terror thing way beyond it's shack value. The election of Obama presented a new opportunity for them to recapture those they had alienated pushing the Bush regime all that time. Not to worry though, they will go back to regular programing as soon as the Republicans regain control of the Federal Government.
    "The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." - J. Edgar Hoover

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Dividing.
    One lone wolf represents a far greater danger than a million blind sheep.

    or in other words

    To unite behind the wrong cause is worthless.

    edit: worthless is too nice. moronic and (the wrong kinda) dangerous is more like it
    Last edited by constituent; 03-09-2009 at 11:11 AM.
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