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    Obama Stimulus Plan Dangerous to Your Health

    seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing.


    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aLzfDxfbwhzs

    One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.

    The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446).

    According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

    he goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs.

    That means you will die more quickly due to lack of the latest medical advances.

    Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

    The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

    It is cheaper to the let the patient die, than to treat them.

    In 2006, a U.K. health board decreed that elderly patients with macular degeneration had to wait until they went blind in one eye before they could get a costly new drug to save the other eye. It took almost three years of public protests before the board reversed its decision.

    Let them go blind according to the government.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Primbs View Post
    seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing.


    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aLzfDxfbwhzs

    One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.

    The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446).

    According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

    he goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs.

    That means you will die more quickly due to lack of the latest medical advances.

    Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

    The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

    It is cheaper to the let the patient die, than to treat them.

    In 2006, a U.K. health board decreed that elderly patients with macular degeneration had to wait until they went blind in one eye before they could get a costly new drug to save the other eye. It took almost three years of public protests before the board reversed its decision.

    Let them go blind according to the government.
    This must be resisted. We need to get the word out asap!
    Let's end The War On Health!

    The FDA is currently resorting to dirty tricks in an attempt to ban nutritional supplements,

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/39686.

    Please contact Congress via both of these web sites and request that they stop this assault on health-freedom,

    http://www.anh-usa.org/vitaminwar/,
    http://www.citizens.org/?p=2589.

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    I just saw this as well and raced here to get it posted.. I'm going to repost this in the economic forum and the central forum if it isn't already...

    This one is a code red..

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    This is worse than awful - I hope the Supreme Court can overturn this.

    http://www.paxparabellum.com/2009/02...r-you-and.html
    But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

    Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

    The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis.

    In 2006, a U.K. health board decreed that elderly patients with macular degeneration had to wait until they went blind in one eye before they could get a costly new drug to save the other eye. It took almost three years of public protests before the board reversed its decision.
    So private medical care - paid for with private money - has to be approved by the government.

    Oh. My. God.

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    Sickening... probably won't be long before I get forced out of practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocGrimes View Post
    Sickening... probably won't be long before I get forced out of practice.
    what kind of doctor are yah?

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    http://www.naturalnews.com/025597.html

    I was about to post this but you beat me to it. Truly sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocGrimes View Post
    Sickening... probably won't be long before I get forced out of practice.
    I think there's a constitutional case here. Maybe you could be ready to file it as soon as you get standing.

    It might be a patient that has to file it though, but I have a chronic condition that makes the insurance companies squawk. ....no doubt the government will simply refuse. Just find a patient like that who gets turned down, and have him/her sue.

    Hopefully it's over a relatively minor treatment, because it will take years for this to go through the courts.

    The part about slowing the use of technology is just ignorance on display. If technology is bad, why not be sure that Detroit doesn't upgrade? Why are we subsidizing green energy if it's better not to advance?



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    Insurance companies routinely deny legitimate claims all the time. A certain number of people will not dispute the denied claims and the insurance companies get out of paying the bills.

    Many insurance companies park their money in stock market before they pay out. Geico has tremendous free cash flow above it's expenses and payouts and is used by Warren Buffet to help keep him flush with cash.

    When the stock market is up, insurance companies are more generous with their money for claims. When the stock market is down, insurance companies get more stingy.

    Bottom line, don't put all your faith in insurance companies paying out faithfully.

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    The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446).

    Easy...

    Clean up the Corrupt and Cozy FDA/HHS department of government...

    Get rid of the Insurance companies

    Allow Americans to purchase their own drugs from anywhere in the world, where they desire and let the free market price drugs, Not the US Senate/Pharma/FDA.

    Did you know... when the US Senate killed cheap drugs from Canada, France, Germany & England... the Pharma's agreed in the bill to pay the FDA, $350 MILLION a year in fees to "PROTECT Americans"

    Yeah... Right!

    Look where most the drugs are manufactured now: CHINA!

    Payola to government, for government to rule, in Profits for the Pharmaceuticals/Drug corps.

    WE LOSE TWICE
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