We were robbed!

[spacehabitats]

I know that this will be dismissed as just another Paulite out of touch with reality, but this is one Iowan who can not believe tonight's results. In my precinct we had 16%. The two other precincts that reported to me were 8% and 10%! Our county was hardly organized. We got into the game very late. I became a county chairman two weeks ago. We are in a remote corner of the state so Ron Paul never even got close to our town.
I can't believe Thompson getting 14% either. In our precincts he got 5%. Its almost like they got their percentages reversed.
The results were "called" in by a touchtone cellular phone (not on speaker phone). I don't think our precinct secretary would have changed the results but since it was done by an automated system I could not easily verify her numbers. What really bothers me is the potential for tampering by the software that totaled the numbers. The "ballots" are slips of paper that are discarded immediately. The Ron Paul precinct captains did call in their numbers separately (to a human) but not all of the precincts had captains. I will be very interested to see if the percentages are even close to the "official" ones.

Anyway, hand me my tinfoil hat. I guess I am now a certified paranoid.

By the way, do not give up guys. This is not the end! Bring on New Hampshire!
Go Ron Paul!

[tonyTheBest]

what is your precinct's name?

[tonyTheBest]

Originally Posted by tonyTheBest

what is your precinct's name?

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[xao]

Originally Posted by tonyTheBest

what is your precinct's name?

I can't believe the fag-mods banned, member "gordon" or chef ramsey just because he spoke up about it. Whoever banned him clearly has a small penis.

There are 1800 precincts in Iowa, once each precinct has their results they dial into a computer system and type in the resutls, then a computer spits out the final results... so unless there's somebody else taking the role of that computer and has someone watching in each precinct, we cannot validate any of the numbers.


It appears to be an easily rigged fraudulent voting system.

[1913_to_2008]

Originally Posted by xao

I can't believe the fag-mods banned, member "gordon" or chef ramsey just because he spoke up about it. Whoever banned him clearly has a small penis.

There are 1800 precincts in Iowa, once each precinct has their results they dial into a computer system and type in the resutls, then a computer spits out the final results... so unless there's somebody else taking the role of that computer and has someone watching in each precinct, we cannot validate any of the numbers.


It appears to be an easily rigged fraudulent voting system.

Some people think that the people running this site are trying to cover the voter fraud.

[Electric Church]

Originally Posted by 1913_to_2008

Some people think that the people running this site are trying to cover the voter fraud.

+1

[Birdlady]

Originally Posted by 1913_to_2008

Some people think that the people running this site are trying to cover the voter fraud.

I can't figure out why the words voter fraud are a hot topic here. I think I need a break from this forum. It's a waste of my time.

[dawnbt]

Originally Posted by xao

I can't believe the fag-mods banned, member "gordon" or chef ramsey just because he spoke up about it. Whoever banned him clearly has a small penis.

Looks like we may have to start a new forum. Requirements, balls and no Moles!

[achilles28]

We polled crap in Iowa because our Committed Voters were not called or taken to Caucus the day of.

Our Committed Voters were not called because the Master List, containing Paul voter information, was corrupted (ie rendered useless) the day of the Caucus.

This was reported by 2 seperate HQ Volunteers and GHemmbinger.

This "mistake" cost us between 5,000 to 8,000 votes - a Third Place Finish.

Originally Posted by paulette

I sincerely regret to inform you that today, the GOTV day, the biggest day of the whole Iowa campaign for the 300 students up here, was completely destroyed--and the circumstances point towards a deliberate sabotage.

Our job? Call every Ron Paul supporter in the state (our numbers were bigger than Huckabee's), man as many precincts as possible, drive voters around, pick people up, get them back home, check voters off as they come in, &c., &c..

But then at 2:30 in the morning, all the camp leaders received a phone call that the database the Des Moines office put together of all our phone banking and door-to-door canvassing was totally scrambled, jumbled, and even partly deleted. All the data was scattered and completely jumbled. Missing phone numbers. Missing precincts. A big box of random data. Thousands and thousands of voters.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=74939



Originally Posted by Krippy View Post
This is what cost us Iowa. The campaign failed to backup their data and was not able to provide the 250 student volunteers (which I am one) with the list of the supporters. Instead, we were given a shitty list of wrong numbers, dead people, and non-supporters to call just 2 hours before the caucuses started.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...t=74486&page=6

[Peace&Freedom]

Originally Posted by achilles28

Originally Posted by Krippy View Post
This is what cost us Iowa. The campaign failed to backup their data and was not able to provide the 250 student volunteers (which I am one) with the list of the supporters. Instead, we were given a s***y list of wrong numbers, dead people, and non-supporters to call just 2 hours before the caucuses started.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...t=74486&page=6

Absolutely horrible! NO backup lists were available? NO hard copies prepared? And they waited until the final day to try to get the info to the volunteers? That's almost asking for a Murphy's law situation. That list should have been backed up and distributed a WEEK prior, to work out logistics of contacting and driving people (then simply UPDATED the day before the caucus). This was either handled the wrong way by HQ, or they were victims of hacker sabotage.

That said, let's not bash 'conspiracy' people for simply suggesting things, in light of mistakes that were made all around. Let's stop sniping at each other.