What does Ron say about Obama's birth certificate / eligibility?

[Crash Martinez]

Originally Posted by Mesogen

His mother was a citizen.

This is all it takes to be born a citizen.

Yet NOT all it takes to be eligible for U.S. Presidency!!!!

[libertarian4321]

Originally Posted by ladyjade3

no, its not.

we saw the microfiche from the library in Hawaii. Birth announcement in the paper in Hawaii. Seems pretty solid to me, and in any case, even if you're claiming that all the evidence was falsified, which sounds pretty nutty to me, now is not the time. Too little, too late.

I agree- I think its largely sour grapes on the part of the right wing nuts who ran a bad candidate and got spanked. Now they are desperately trying to do anything they can to overturn the results of the election.

The wing nuts are also claiming that Obama's mother went to Kenya, squirted him out, the zipped back to Hawaii and make sure the announcement got put in the local newspaper (presumably to maintain his viability to run for President, even though, at that time, he couldn't even drink from a "white" drinking fountain). Pretty unlikely, to say the least.

This nonsense doesn't help us- it only makes us look like crazies and reduces our effectiveness in future elections.

Leave it to the nut jobs in the far right wing of the Republican Party (there are plenty of them) to pursue this Quixotic attempt to overturn the election results.

[dannno]

What I don't understand, is that supposedly Obama has several legal teams ready to fight this in court..

Why doesn't he just present his birth certificate? I had to do it for little league.

Talking about sour grapes, obviously you must have forgotten that I openly preferred Obama to McCain, though I did not support him in any way, shape or form. Ask Tones, I'm pretty sure she remembers.

You can talk about birth announcements all day long, and citizenship requirements.. but there was a 2 and a half hour press conference a few days ago that was very interesting. It pretty much explains why we should be going about this.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ama+conference

[JS4Pat]

Originally Posted by libertarian4321

I agree- I think its largely sour grapes on the part of the right wing nuts who ran a bad candidate and got spanked. Now they are desperately trying to do anything they can to overturn the results of the election.

The wing nuts are also claiming that Obama's mother went to Kenya, squirted him out, the zipped back to Hawaii and make sure the announcement got put in the local newspaper (presumably to maintain his viability to run for President, even though, at that time, he couldn't even drink from a "white" drinking fountain). Pretty unlikely, to say the least.

This nonsense doesn't help us- it only makes us look like crazies and reduces our effectiveness in future elections.

Leave it to the nut jobs in the far right wing of the Republican Party (there are plenty of them) to pursue this Quixotic attempt to overturn the election results.

This is my gut reaction as well.

However since joining this freedom movement I've learned to never dismiss anything just because "it sounds outlandish".

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

Originally Posted by dannno

Yes, it was in an interview a while back with Lamphere..

He said that he hasn't researched and doesn't know which side is correct, but he thinks that it is important for the courts to take a look at his constitutional eligibility.

He gave an interesting story about "standing" where he described a situation a while back when he was in congress, and apparently him and the other congressman he did not have standing in front of the courts. He thought that was nonsense.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGPxZ2RXsXw

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5rPBNK9CWo

Notice the cognitive dissonance here, "We need to follow the law" to "courts do what they want."

Well, which is it?

[Matt Collins]

Originally Posted by ladyjade3

we saw the microfiche from the library in Hawaii. Birth announcement in the paper in Hawaii. Seems pretty solid to me, and in any case, even if you're claiming that all the evidence was falsified, which sounds pretty nutty to me, now is not the time. Too little, too late.

Rachel, a birth announcement in the newspaper is NOT the same as an official document by the State.

[Matt Collins]

Originally Posted by libertarian4321

I agree- I think its largely sour grapes on the part of the right wing nuts who ran a bad candidate and got spanked. Now they are desperately trying to do anything they can to overturn the results of the election.

The wing nuts are also claiming that Obama's mother went to Kenya, squirted him out, the zipped back to Hawaii and make sure the announcement got put in the local newspaper (presumably to maintain his viability to run for President, even though, at that time, he couldn't even drink from a "white" drinking fountain). Pretty unlikely, to say the least.

I'm not claiming anything. I am not alleging that he was born outside of the country or that he is ineligible. My only point is that this issue is too big to be ignored and buried.

[bojo68]

Originally Posted by libertarian4321

I agree- I think its largely sour grapes on the part of the right wing nuts who ran a bad candidate and got spanked. Now they are desperately trying to do anything they can to overturn the results of the election.

The wing nuts are also claiming that Obama's mother went to Kenya, squirted him out, the zipped back to Hawaii and make sure the announcement got put in the local newspaper (presumably to maintain his viability to run for President, even though, at that time, he couldn't even drink from a "white" drinking fountain). Pretty unlikely, to say the least.

This nonsense doesn't help us- it only makes us look like crazies and reduces our effectiveness in future elections.

Leave it to the nut jobs in the far right wing of the Republican Party (there are plenty of them) to pursue this Quixotic attempt to overturn the election results.

The nonsense tyhat doesn't help is making up your own Ideas about everything, regardless of fact, and then trying to peddle your own delusion as the yellow brick road.

Fact of the matter is nobody's claiming anything other than Obama's not eligible, most in fact don't even care about birthplace, but that doesn't fit your fantasy.