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Old 09-04-2008, 02:36 PM   #1
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Default Massachusetts Paul delegates voted for McCain??

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/nat...17016&srvc=rss

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In a last-minute show of unity, Bay State Ron Paul supporters decided to throw their votes behind Sen. John McCain last night.

About a dozen Massachusetts supporters of the Texas Congressman and GOP upstart decided to back McCain only an hour before the delegates began to cast votes for the presidential pick.

“We decided the best course of action was to give a little to get a lot,” said Chris Blanc, a Cambridge resident who supports Paul. “The Massachusetts GOP really wanted to show unanimous support.”

Paul, shunned by the Republican convention because he wouldn’t endorse McCain, has been holding daily “counter rallies” in Minnesota where devoted supporters hiss when McCain’s name is uttered.

Rep. Paul Loscocco (R-Holliston) worked with Paul sympathizers to join the delegation so all 43 delegate votes would go to McCain.

“He really worked well behind the scenes to come to this agreement,” said McCain delegate Jack Roy.

McCain will make his acceptance speech tonight surrounded by those supportive delegates on a newly constructed stage. He plans to focus on how he plans to lead the country and highlight the differences between he and Democratic opponent Barack Obama, said Mark Salter, a McCain campaign official who helped write the speech.

McCain’s wife Cindy will also be speaking, as will Secretary of Homeland Security head Tom Ridge.

Delegates will also vote to nominate Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin as the party’s GOP vice presidential pick.
Can anybody verify this? Seems unlikely and pretty surprising to me.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:38 PM   #2
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What? By the way he says it, it's as if they're going to get something in return. What, an insignia of damnation?
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:44 PM   #3
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What? By the way he says it, it's as if they're going to get something in return. What, an insignia of damnation?
If they made a deal with the devil, then they screwed up. I don't care WHAT they think they got in return. RON PAUL would NEVER support that neocon bastard and his supporters who did should be ashamed of themselves. I expected fireworks from the Ron Paul delegates and we got back room deals? I'm disgusted.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:51 AM   #4
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RON PAUL would NEVER support that neocon bastard.
McSame has never been a liberal, therefore he is not a "neocon." Please get your epithets correct.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:52 PM   #5
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Look I'm as pissed as anyone about this but if they have arrangements or deals for something they've worked out, if they feel they've made progress in the party, that's fine. That's politics. We can't control what goes on in Massachusetts and at least in this case they treated the delegates like adults.

I just wish they let know what was going on. I wish everyone did.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:58 PM   #6
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Look I'm as pissed as anyone about this but if they have arrangements or deals for something they've worked out, if they feel they've made progress in the party, that's fine. That's politics. We can't control what goes on in Massachusetts and at least in this case they treated the delegates like adults.

I just wish they let know what was going on. I wish everyone did.
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:11 PM   #7
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I think it would be best to wait,and see what the people representing the Mass.delegation have to say.
Either way,they are the ones who worked for their positions,and therefore the right to make any deals they saw fit.

I thought our goal was to influence policy,and change from within.We cannot do that if we are constantly thumbing our nose at the power structure,and then raging that we have no voice.
As much as i hate to point out the obvious;In this day,and age,sometimes you have to play the game.
We have a much better chance for success if we can manage to infiltrate,and change hearts,and minds through example.
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I think it would be best to wait,and see what the people representing the Mass.delegation have to say.
Either way,they are the ones who worked for their positions,and therefore the right to make any deals they saw fit.

I thought our goal was to influence policy,and change from within.We cannot do that if we are constantly thumbing our nose at the power structure,and then raging that we have no voice.
As much as i hate to point out the obvious;In this day,and age,sometimes you have to play the game.
We have a much better chance for success if we can manage to infiltrate,and change hearts,and minds through example.
The ONLY deal that would have been acceptable would have been a speech by Dr. Paul at the RNC. At least THEN we would have heard the word CONSTITUTION!!
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:24 PM   #9
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The ONLY deal that would have been acceptable would have been a speech by Dr. Paul at the RNC. At least THEN we would have heard the word CONSTITUTION!!
I hear ya,i really do,and i wish that was the way it played out.
All i'm saying is that we have a long tough road ahead.We are armed with our ideals,and principals,and we know we are right.Heck,i bet we have a lot more sympathy in the G.O.P than we realize,but we will never get those people on our side if we continue to antagonize them.
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:29 PM   #10
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Nevadans did the same....


...hope they liked the "Rage" show -

I do think trying to form some sort of alliances is not a bad idea, but who can trust the party at this point?

I like Gov. Palin in some areas and not others but will not make pull that lever unless their is some sort of attempt to "reach out" by the ticket (of which I know is far fetched). I still cannot get myself to vote for Barr and am lukewarm to Baldwin.

If nothing else, I'm still writing the good Dr. in and walking away with a clean conscience.
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