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Old 07-22-2008, 08:34 PM   #1
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Uh...actually people believe in chemtrails because they can see for themselves while they are getting the crap sprayed out of them Einstein.

Anyways....can we get back on topic.....we had a near miss with Ron Paul . I myself would have had a heart attack and died during the rapid descent. I hate flying. Ron Paul seems to think it was an inconvenience
Chemtrails r real to anyone who doesn't believe so... they have sprayed them over Orlando for years now... if anyone wants video evidence I will show you...
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:42 PM   #2
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Uh...actually people believe in chemtrails because they can see for themselves while they are getting the crap sprayed out of them Einstein.
Ah yes, how could I have been so silly. Has nothing to do with jet engines or the atmosphere. Boy, how ridiculous am I for thinking that was it.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:22 PM   #3
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Jeesh...it just doesn't get anymore ironic than this:

Flight with 7 congressmen makes emergency landing
By CHEVEL JOHNSON – 1 hour ago

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...C9UWwD9237ME00

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A Continental Airlines flight carrying former presidential candidate Ron Paul and six other members of Congress to Washington, D.C., made an emergency landing in New Orleans on Tuesday after a loss in cabin pressure.

[B]The seven congressmen, all from Texas, were trying to get back in time for a Tuesday night vote on an aviation safety bill when the flight landed without incident,
[/b] a spokesman for one of the representatives said. No injuries were reported among the 128 crew and passengers.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:27 PM   #4
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No matter what your take is on 9/11, it is strange that the wreckage from Flight 93, (crash in Shanksville, Pa)
was scattered over 3-4 miles in little pieces, and that very little of that debris was at the hole in the ground.

Can someone explain to me how a plane that is crashed on purpose, like what we're told happened, left debris over a 3-4 mile radius?

Don't plane crashes usually have a concentration of wreckage at the area of impact? That didn't happen in Shanksville.


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"...just as there are so many heroes around this country during a time of need—so, too, were the Happy Hooligans in their cockpit of the F–16s, flying combat air patrols over our Nation’s Capital. Let me say to the Happy Hooligans: I salute you. I am proud of your work. And this country owes you a great debt of gratitude. Mr. President, I yield the floor." S9498 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE September 19, 2001
My take on that day: we are not that stupid. Our air defense procedures/systems were well tested and proven. Unless you can believe that Al Qaeda can conduct air defense drills, compromise air defense procedures/systems and/or issue stand down orders--you may have a problem with the 'official conspiracy theory' put forth.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:29 PM   #5
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I couldn't read alll the hundreds of posts on this thread..so if I repeat..sorry. I wonder how many of those congressmen voted for the impeachment bill? tones
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:37 PM   #6
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Watch this:

http://pimpinturtle.com/2008/07/20/w...y-18-2008.aspx

Watch this one: THEY TURN THE CHEMTRAILS ON AND OFF AND ON AND OFF...

http://pimpinturtle.com/2008/07/15/o...n-weather.aspx

ALL WERE FILMED OVER ORLANDO, FL IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BUT WE HAVE VIDEO FOOTAGE FROM THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS...
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:42 PM   #7
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Being in the "aircraft industry" I can tell you that there are any number of "possibilities" that an aircraft cabin can depressurize. It doesn't happen all that often in comparision to the number of flight passenger hours, but it does happen. This is going to be one of those "Wait for the NTSB investigation reports to be published." I will admit that the "timing" is very unsettleing to say the least.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:59 PM   #8
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blah blah plane has left NOLA and on the way to DC now
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:14 PM   #9
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If the buildings were weakened by fire and collapsed, that's one thing.

It doesn't explain the "rivers" of molten metal underground, as described by clean up workers on the scene, for weeks after the collapses.

Metal weakened by fire is not comparable to molten metal.

NASA photos taken weeks after the collapses show "hot spots" that can't be explained by frictional heat caused by collapsing buildings, or weakened metal.

Workers on the scene saw the flowing metal that can't be explained away by it either.

I know it's difficult to believe that certain people could be so evil as to kill innocent people in order to manipulate world events in the way that they want them to go.

But hey, unfortunately they exist. That's reality.

Please tell me why "they" would never kill innocent people that are Americans, but then have no qualms about killing innocent people who aren't?

It doesn't matter to them if people are Americans or innocent. If they need to kill people to get their way, they'll kill them.

It's happened throughout history, and it's happening today.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:36 PM   #10
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A few eyewitnesses of molten metal:
New York firefighters recall “heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel.”
[New York Post, 3/3/2004]

http://www.historycommons.org/entity...slie_robertson

Ken Holden, who is involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris removal operations at Ground Zero, later will tell the 9/11 Commission, “Underground, it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of the wall from [WTC] Building 6.”
[9/11 Commission, 4/1/2003]

William Langewiesche, the only journalist to have unrestricted access to Ground Zero during the cleanup operation, describes, “in the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole.” [Langewiesche, 2002, pp. 32]

Leslie Robertson, one of the structural engineers responsible for the design of the WTC, describes fires still burning and
molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks
. [SEAU News, 10/2001 ]

Alison Geyh, who heads a team of scientists studying the potential health effects of 9/11, reports: “Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel.” [Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazine, 2001]

Ron Burger, a public health advisor who arrives at Ground Zero on September 12, says that “feeling the heat” and
seeing the molten steel” there reminds him of a volcano. [National Environmental Health Association, 9/2003, pp. 40 ]

Paramedic Lee Turner arrives at the World Trade Center site on September 12 as a member of a federal urban search and rescue squad. While at Ground Zero, he goes “down crumpled stairwells to the subway, five levels below ground.” There he reportedly sees, “in the darkness a distant, pinkish glow—molten metal dripping from a beam.” [US News and World Report, 9/12/2002]

According to a member of New York Air National Guard’s 109th Air Wing, who is at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6: “One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers’ remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots.” [National Guard Magazine, 12/2001]

New York firefighters recall “heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel.” [New York Post, 3/3/2004]

As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter Joe O’Toole sees a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at Ground Zero, which, he says, “was dripping from the molten steel.” [Knight Ridder, 5/29/2002]

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