17 US soldiers captured by Mahdi Army in Basra (not confirmed yet)

Phantom · 03-26-2008, 04:42 PM

17 US soldiers captured by Mahdi Army in Basra (not confirmed yet)

Mar 25, 2008

News: Mahdi Army arrested 17 American soldiers……Update……

Reported, Abu Al-Khasib another city close to Basra, now under Mahdi Army control, Iraqi government calls special forces from Karbala led by Maliki’s “brothers in law” to move to Basra.

…….End update…..

Just reported from Alwasatonline reporter in Basra, Mahdi Army managed to arrest 17 American soldiers, and seizes 7 hammer military vehicles, because of these developments the Iraqi government offered to negotiates with MA but Muqtada Al-Sadr refused any negotiations, also 250 Iraqi soldiers gave themselves up to Mahdi Army.

Key bridge, connecting Basra city to Al-Kurnah is destroyed by Mahdi Army.

Sotaliraq reported that Maliki refused to meet Basra’s mayor “Mohammad Al-Walili (from Al-Fadhilah Party), the mayor threaten if he removed from his position as mayor he will burn all the oil wells around Basra.

There is also reports about American warplanes involvement in the fights, and the Green Zone was bombed again at 8 O’clock p.

There are fighting in Al-Shurta neighborhood in Baghdad in the Karkh part (East, across the river)

http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/03/25/news-mahdi-army-arrested-17-american-soldiers

tajitj · 03-26-2008, 04:51 PM

You all do know the only reason the surge is "working" is because the Al-Sadr militia agreed to a cease fire. If they break it, as it looks like they have, we are going right back to last fall.

It will be worse because of our stategy to stay in the local neighborhoods. Now US soldiers are everywhere in the cities.

THERE IS NO WINNING STRATEGY IN IRAQ. We have to leave and let them fight for their own democracy like we had to. It sounds horrible but I bet we would be surprised by the peoples ability to fight extremists on their own.

JosephTheLibertarian · 03-26-2008, 04:52 PM

What else is new? I don't understand why the troops still obey orders.

Phantom · 03-26-2008, 05:53 PM

JosephTheLibertarian

Quote:

What else is new? I don't understand why the troops still obey orders.

They stay and fight the illegal wars because they are Conditioned to take orders.

Remember, a soldier is an ordinary man or woman who was broken, mentally and physically, then rebuilt and conditioned to do as they are told. They will fight whomever they are told to fight.

The good news is, more and more soldiers seem to be waking up now and are refusing to fight in these illegal wars.

kirkblitz · 03-26-2008, 05:55 PM

maybe they take orders cause if they dont there is NO way back home. Whos gonna give them a lift? The syrians?

JosephTheLibertarian · 03-26-2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkblitz

maybe they take orders cause if they dont there is NO way back home. Whos gonna give them a lift? The syrians?

Just become an Iran POW and tell them all they want to know. Then they will be treated very good lol

1000-points-of-fright · 03-26-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tajitj

let them fight for their own democracy like we had to.

Except for that help we had from the French, Spanish and Dutch.

ItsTime · 03-26-2008, 06:02 PM

They did cease fire, now the US and "allies" are the ones breaking the cease fire treaty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajitj

You all do know the only reason the surge is "working" is because the Al-Sadr militia agreed to a cease fire. If they break it, as it looks like they have, we are going right back to last fall.

It will be worse because of our stategy to stay in the local neighborhoods. Now US soldiers are everywhere in the cities.

THERE IS NO WINNING STRATEGY IN IRAQ. We have to leave and let them fight for their own democracy like we had to. It sounds horrible but I bet we would be surprised by the peoples ability to fight extremists on their own.

kirkblitz · 03-26-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephTheLibertarian

Just become an Iran POW and tell them all they want to know. Then they will be treated very good lol

tis true lol

Phantom · 03-26-2008, 06:03 PM

kirkblitz

Quote:

maybe they take orders cause if they dont there is NO way back home. Whos gonna give them a lift?

If enough refuse they will have to send them home and court martial them.

Here is an interesting site: U.S. War Heroes of the Iraq War - War Resisters from within the Military

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03-26-2008, 04:51 PM	#2
tajitj Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 790	You all do know the only reason the surge is "working" is because the Al-Sadr militia agreed to a cease fire. If they break it, as it looks like they have, we are going right back to last fall. It will be worse because of our stategy to stay in the local neighborhoods. Now US soldiers are everywhere in the cities. THERE IS NO WINNING STRATEGY IN IRAQ. We have to leave and let them fight for their own democracy like we had to. It sounds horrible but I bet we would be surprised by the peoples ability to fight extremists on their own.

03-26-2008, 04:52 PM	#3
JosephTheLibertarian Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 10,520	What else is new? I don't understand why the troops still obey orders.

03-26-2008, 05:55 PM	#5
kirkblitz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SC Posts: 1,322	maybe they take orders cause if they dont there is NO way back home. Whos gonna give them a lift? The syrians?