How we can SECEDE from the Union!!

[Nate K]

It's really not that hard, if you focus on what would need to be done in order for this to happen, it's very doable.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I'm pretty sure it works..

There is the State House and the State Senate, just like in the National Congress. Each state has a different amount of representatives and senators, that to my knowledge is NOT based on population.

If we control both sides and agree to secede from the Union, what's stopping us? Will America go to war? If enough states do so, I highly doubt it!

Now if my theory is correct, we ought to use some strategy here, and look at the number of representatives and senators in each state that would enable us to get the most in! Now what would be better for us, a state with a large General Assembly based on population or a smaller one?

Here are some key states I think we should focus on (especially Texas) and their General Assembly number:

New Hampshire: 24 in the Senate and 400 in the House. Population: est. 1.4 million

Vermont: 30 in the Senate and 150 in the House. Population: est. 650,000

Texas: 31 in the Senate and 150 in the House. Population:24 million

Montana: 50 in the Senate and 100 in the House. Population: 1 million.

Have another state in mind? Post it and I'll look it up. I'm getting this info from the 2008 Almanac.

What does this mean for you? Well this all means start preparing for state government!! State government at this point, if you look at it from this angle, much more powerful than federal. Are you interested in politics? Do you feel that you could serve your constituents? Are you a well enough speaker for the job? If you answer any of these with a yes, YOU SHOULD RUN FOR AT LEAST STATE HOUSE. If you are well qualified (ex. Master's Degree, great speaker, etc.) you should run for State Senate.

Are you not interested enough in politics or that field of study? That's ok too!! You can donate to the people running in your state, which is just as important!

Let's use an example here for Texas (a state we should all focus on).. A representative for Texas serves approx. 160,000 people. (24,000,000/ 150) That means you would need to have decent funds/ donors in that state to win, my guess is around 100-150k.

However!, in New Hampshire a state representative serves 3, 500 people!! (1,400,000/ 400). You would need little funds to win that state!


So why secede in the first place?

Because it may just be a whole lot simpler concentrating our efforts in a few states or even one state, rather than trying to focus on the corruption of the whole country! PLUS, this is a plan that is not expected by the elites, this will have them on their toes, and trust me, with enough planning done quickly, we could pull this off.

So what should you do now?? Start sharing ideas in this thread and come up with ideas of your own!!

[nate895]

No, you need to call a convention, because a convention ratified the Constitution, and therefore only they can rescind ratification, and there would be a debate, and we would have to get secessionist to become delegates to the convention. I encourage you to read A Constitutional History of Secession by John Remington Graham if you wish to learn more.

[silverhandorder]

We can win our country back to the law of the land.

I am not thinking about this yet until they have SS Troopers reinforcing Martial Law.

[Nate K]

Originally Posted by silverhandorder

We can win our country back to the law of the land.

I am not thinking about this yet until they have SS Troopers reinforcing Martial Law.

While I agree, I think it is equally important to take over the state legislation NOW rather than later, where we risk losing MORE of our freedom as time goes by!

[silverhandorder]

Originally Posted by Nate K

While I agree, I think it is equally important to take over the state legislation NOW rather than later, where we risk losing MORE of our freedom as time goes by!

I agree with you too . I see a lot of people from my meet up mobilizing with in the party here in NYC. So I am confident in New Yorkers.

[Nate K]

Originally Posted by silverhandorder

I agree with you too . I see a lot of people from my meet up mobilizing with in the party here in NYC. So I am confident in New Yorkers.

That's good to hear. One way or another, we need to take over the Republican party whether it is state-wide or nation-wide.

I haven't lost my ambition to fund every Libertarian who will strategically grant the most freedom and I will be working double hard on getting people more educated and out there to be funded!

[virginiakid]

Originally Posted by Nate K

While I agree, I think it is equally important to take over the state legislation NOW rather than later, where we risk losing MORE of our freedom as time goes by!

The state government is where it is at. Get enough delegates, senators and even a governor who are willing to stand up for their states rights according to the constitution then you can easily bring the federal government back into submission and make it follow its own constitution that it made with the people and the states.

[LEK]

Originally Posted by silverhandorder

We can win our country back to the law of the land.

I am not thinking about this yet until they have SS Troopers reinforcing Martial Law.

For his part, President Bush may have implemented a back-up plan last April when he signed National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51, an executive order allowing him to suspend the constitution without prior congressional approval. NSPD 51 gives the President the discretion to declare a state of emergency (i.e. martial law) in the event of a major terrorist attack or other “decapitating” incident against the United States, even if the attack happens outside the country. Under this scenario, he can
cancel elections, padlock the Capitol dome and send the Supreme Court justices home. The directive also assigns the President's homeland security assistant ( a low-level position exempt from senate confirmation) to administer what has been dubbed the Enduring Constitutional Government. In other words, another Sept. 11th disaster could reduce this year's election to nothing more than the status of a season of Survivor.

http://thecityedition.com/Pages/Arch...8Election.html

[nate895]

Originally Posted by LEK

For his part, President Bush may have implemented a back-up plan last April when he signed National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51, an executive order allowing him to suspend the constitution without prior congressional approval. NSPD 51 gives the President the discretion to declare a state of emergency (i.e. martial law) in the event of a major terrorist attack or other “decapitating” incident against the United States, even if the attack happens outside the country. Under this scenario, he can
cancel elections, padlock the Capitol dome and send the Supreme Court justices home. The directive also assigns the President's homeland security assistant ( a low-level position exempt from senate confirmation) to administer what has been dubbed the Enduring Constitutional Government. In other words, another Sept. 11th disaster could reduce this year's election to nothing more than the status of a season of Survivor.

http://thecityedition.com/Pages/Arch...8Election.html

If this happens, how many are willing to resist with me?

[BravoSix]

Originally Posted by nate895

If this happens, how many are willing to resist with me?

I'm not sure how many citizens would take up arms with you, and I'm not sure how many would simply roll over and take it. What I am sure of is that those of us who would actively and violently resist aren't going to be posting all over the internet proclaiming that fact.

YMMV.