We Won Washington! And you should all rejoice

free.alive · 02-10-2008, 12:46 PM

We won 21% (of the preference poll) in precincts where it wouldn't hurt us to be obvious for Ron Paul, or where those who showed up were likely more socially bold enough to either hold their own or build bridges. However, much of the uncommitted vote is ours because some volunteers and staff were telling them to go undeclared if they were unsure or weren't the type to haggle.

how do I know this?? I was intimately involved in all levels of play. We flat out won Spokane and Vancouver and many places we didn't even have meetups! We won tons precincts we weren't expecting to.

But it wasn't easy. Caucuses where we were only expecting a few people to show up had 10, 20, even 30 or more people. And most of the sheeple were out for McCain . In other areas, a whole (very large) family or two would storm a caucus for Huckster.

Our opponents were out in force. We stormed the fucker nonetheless. My estimate us that we have OVER 50% of the delegates. Some are saying as much as 70, but that's pushing it.

About slow vote counting - the problem was turnout. Turnout was far greater than expected. My district leader was expecting to be up much of the evening with his team calculating the results. Later that evening, one county's GOP chair was burning the midnight oil all by himself at his hq tallying results as they came in. He only started after the platform committee meeting. For the most part, WA seems to have solid and fair GOP reps. Some hate us, but they seem honest.

The greatest story of the night - One precinct, which was allotted one delegate to the county convention, had 23 McCain supporters show up, 1 Huckabee, 1 Romney and 1 Paul. The Paul supporter came away with the delegate!

We were organized! The campaign and some hardcore volunteers put together a great (last minute) system of receiving results and were very happy with the returns. Other key volunteers and staff in recent days held several HUGE caucus training events to prepare supporters for what was to come. Many of us knew more about what was happening than our PCO's!

All in all, it was a great result. Yes, it's a shame that we didn't win the media contest- the preference poll - but we'll be putting pressure on staff to get a press release out IMMEDIATELY, as soon as they can be reasonably sure of our total.

There is nothing to complain about here. We have won our first state!

Gadsden Flag · 02-10-2008, 12:48 PM

Hmm, on the radio this morning they said Huckabee 1st, McCain 2nd in Washington.

Unless you have official results to cite, I am more prone to believing what they said

.

Brutus · 02-10-2008, 12:48 PM

Great news!

Gadsden Flag · 02-10-2008, 12:51 PM

I just looked at CNN...They have McCain 26, Huckabee 24, Paul 21.

free.alive · 02-10-2008, 12:53 PM

Another two things -

The media is reporting the results they are simply because no one can effectively, concretely know the ACTUAL delegate count. The delegate reports they are issuing are ESTIMATED based on the likely percentage of possible delegates that each candidate won in the precincts. It's good they're even trying that hard to get it right.

What they can't know is that many precincts had supporters of other candidates vastly outnumbering the Paul supporters and we got out people in because they knew better what to expect and were trained on a little strategy. Also, they can't know who those uncommitted delegates support. But as an individual delegate reports back to hq their result, and they say they're officially uncommitted, we can know that many of them actually felt the need to take the suggestion from volunteers and staff that if you can't win, go uncommitted. Some of you seem to be upset about the uncommitted thing, when instead you should be thanking the volunteers and staff who effectively got this across to very nervous first-time caucus goers.

This is a ray of hope. Texas is the next big step. What are the reports from Wisconsin?

free.alive · 02-10-2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadsden Flag

Hmm, on the radio this morning they said Huckabee 1st, McCain 2nd in Washington.

Unless you have official results to cite, I am more prone to believing what they said

.

Believe what you want. Frown at will. I've always had problems with beliefs, anyway.

What I'm telling you IS NOT speculation. The WA Coordinator is estimating that we got twice the delegates of each of the other candidates. That's staggering. Several of us have seen the reports. We had several staff and volunteers back at hq to take in the results from supporters who were given materials to take down results to report back with. EVERYONE has done a fantastic job!

BIG_J · 02-10-2008, 12:58 PM

Whether or not you won or not. 21% in a preference poll is THE BOMB. Not to mention delegates.

WAY TO GO!!!!

Cheering from Wisconsin!

free.alive · 02-10-2008, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadsden Flag

I just looked at CNN...They have McCain 26, Huckabee 24, Paul 21.

Did you not read my post? Since when is CNN a credible source for news on this campaign. And I explained WHY those are the results they are reporting, anyway. That's the best they can do because they simply CAN'T know anything further - we can!!

free.alive · 02-10-2008, 12:58 PM

So what's the word on Wisconsin??

Estanislao · 02-10-2008, 01:07 PM

Gads Fly - those numbers are from the sign up sheet - and even that they stretch into calling a straw poll.

They actually held an official straw poll on yellow sheets of paper in which Paul won.

Yes the media lies - you're supposedly a senior member, surprised you didn't know that.

02-10-2008, 12:46 PM	#1
free.alive Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,086	We Won Washington! And you should all rejoice We won 21% (of the preference poll) in precincts where it wouldn't hurt us to be obvious for Ron Paul, or where those who showed up were likely more socially bold enough to either hold their own or build bridges. However, much of the uncommitted vote is ours because some volunteers and staff were telling them to go undeclared if they were unsure or weren't the type to haggle. how do I know this?? I was intimately involved in all levels of play. We flat out won Spokane and Vancouver and many places we didn't even have meetups! We won tons precincts we weren't expecting to. But it wasn't easy. Caucuses where we were only expecting a few people to show up had 10, 20, even 30 or more people. And most of the sheeple were out for McCain . In other areas, a whole (very large) family or two would storm a caucus for Huckster. Our opponents were out in force. We stormed the fucker nonetheless. My estimate us that we have OVER 50% of the delegates. Some are saying as much as 70, but that's pushing it. About slow vote counting - the problem was turnout. Turnout was far greater than expected. My district leader was expecting to be up much of the evening with his team calculating the results. Later that evening, one county's GOP chair was burning the midnight oil all by himself at his hq tallying results as they came in. He only started after the platform committee meeting. For the most part, WA seems to have solid and fair GOP reps. Some hate us, but they seem honest. The greatest story of the night - One precinct, which was allotted one delegate to the county convention, had 23 McCain supporters show up, 1 Huckabee, 1 Romney and 1 Paul. The Paul supporter came away with the delegate! We were organized! The campaign and some hardcore volunteers put together a great (last minute) system of receiving results and were very happy with the returns. Other key volunteers and staff in recent days held several HUGE caucus training events to prepare supporters for what was to come. Many of us knew more about what was happening than our PCO's! All in all, it was a great result. Yes, it's a shame that we didn't win the media contest- the preference poll - but we'll be putting pressure on staff to get a press release out IMMEDIATELY, as soon as they can be reasonably sure of our total. There is nothing to complain about here. We have won our first state!

02-10-2008, 12:48 PM	#2
Gadsden Flag Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 389	Hmm, on the radio this morning they said Huckabee 1st, McCain 2nd in Washington. Unless you have official results to cite, I am more prone to believing what they said . __________________ 'We must make the world safe for democracy'--Woodrow Wilson, 1917 'We gotta make democracy safe for the world'--Walt Kelly, 1970 If you support open debates and would like to see the Presidential Debate Commission replaced or changed, click here. Documentary: Debating the Role of Third Parties in the U.S

02-10-2008, 12:51 PM	#4
Gadsden Flag Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 389	I just looked at CNN...They have McCain 26, Huckabee 24, Paul 21. __________________ 'We must make the world safe for democracy'--Woodrow Wilson, 1917 'We gotta make democracy safe for the world'--Walt Kelly, 1970 If you support open debates and would like to see the Presidential Debate Commission replaced or changed, click here. Documentary: Debating the Role of Third Parties in the U.S

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02-10-2008, 12:48 PM	#3
Brutus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 473	Great news!

02-10-2008, 12:53 PM	#5
free.alive Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,086	Another two things - The media is reporting the results they are simply because no one can effectively, concretely know the ACTUAL delegate count. The delegate reports they are issuing are ESTIMATED based on the likely percentage of possible delegates that each candidate won in the precincts. It's good they're even trying that hard to get it right. What they can't know is that many precincts had supporters of other candidates vastly outnumbering the Paul supporters and we got out people in because they knew better what to expect and were trained on a little strategy. Also, they can't know who those uncommitted delegates support. But as an individual delegate reports back to hq their result, and they say they're officially uncommitted, we can know that many of them actually felt the need to take the suggestion from volunteers and staff that if you can't win, go uncommitted. Some of you seem to be upset about the uncommitted thing, when instead you should be thanking the volunteers and staff who effectively got this across to very nervous first-time caucus goers. This is a ray of hope. Texas is the next big step. What are the reports from Wisconsin?

02-10-2008, 12:58 PM	#7
BIG_J Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eden Prarie, MN Posts: 816	Whether or not you won or not. 21% in a preference poll is THE BOMB. Not to mention delegates. WAY TO GO!!!! Cheering from Wisconsin!

02-10-2008, 01:07 PM	#10
Estanislao Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 68	Gads Fly - those numbers are from the sign up sheet - and even that they stretch into calling a straw poll. They actually held an official straw poll on yellow sheets of paper in which Paul won. Yes the media lies - you're supposedly a senior member, surprised you didn't know that.