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    A category 5 $#it storm is brewing.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RPtotheWH View Post
    LOL!!!

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    I guess we should make a big deal that Donald Trump has been spied upon.
    I haven't heard of any presidential executive order, to stop the intellligences agencies spying on everybody under the guise of national security (but on the contrary have heard about Donald Trump increasing federal law enforcement violating our rights).

    Do sheeple still believe in some kind of physical wiretap?
    Please don't tell anybody that when you walk around with your cell phone, the information is send through the air. It cannot possibly be a violation of your privacy when the secret police listens in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    WIRETAPS
    When you’re dealing with computers, there’s no such thing as private or secret information. Computers decide based on authorisation if you can view information. The secret police simply needs a profile with sufficient authority to view information stored on computers (this is most easily achieved if everybody uses the same operating systems, like Microsoft and Linux).
    In 1997 the FBI started using the Carnivore system, later renamed to DCS1000, to spy the internet, using data mining techniques. Ironically by the time Carnivore was officially stopped the FBI had for 2 years been using other custom built systems: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/...obsolete_x.htm
    Seen from a computer technology point of view the most difficult part is not in getting access to the information, but that’s analysing the data. Whenever you hear about physically bugging a phone: this is nonsense, they tap the central server for information from the phones.

    SPYING APPS – ISRAELI SPY RING
    There are even commercially available apps for the cell phone, so employers can spy on their slaves and little brothers can spy on their loved ones: http://ziskje197qs2k43u.gq/cell-phon...-mind-control/
    In 2001 the Israeli companies AMDOCS and Comverse Infosys were suspected of spying on the American police. AMDOCS makes the bills for most of the American telephone companies. Comverse Infosys supplies the American government, with automatic tapping equipment. In 2001 it became clear that Comverse Infosys created a backdoor so they could tap in on the telephone information.
    The investigation was simply stopped (while the spying has continued): http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring2.html

    INFORMATION AWARNESS OFFICE (IAO)
    IAO of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is MUCH more ADVANCED than Carnivore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inform...areness_Office
    Because the IAO prevents terrorism and doesn’t know who the (future) terrorists are, - to be on the safe side - they spy on everybody. There have been outcries in the USA, that this is a violation of constitutional rights. The government simply told us, they stopped financing the IAO (and continued the program by a different name) and only spy on other countries (of course Americans wouldn’t mind if other countries are spied upon).
    The IAO gathers all information in one giant database, including analysis of friends, family, hobbies and medical history, and uses data mining techniques to classify everybody by a danger level (1 for a good patriot and 10 for a dangerous terrorist that must be eliminated ASAP). There are nice features like: speech to text transcription, translating languages and predicting future events. IAO even helps the people in charge to make decisions and let these be carried out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    COMPARISON TO ORWELL’S 1984
    I found an interesting comparison between the 1984 that George Orwell described and how we are watched in the 21th century. The following are some descriptions about reality.
    All information accessed through the internet is stored on countless hard drives in large information centres and distributed via broadband, satellite, and cellular connections. Anything done on the internet can never be permanently deleted.
    Every time you “Accept to these terms and conditions”, you are allowing that source to any of the information it specified.
    The Facebook app uses the devices’ camera and microphone at any time to gather pictures and sounds.
    Police can hack into your phone's microphone to listen in on conversations: https://prezi.com/gdzaqhv6px_w/engli...e-present-day/

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Wow, that came from Lewrockwell.com? Did Lew and all the other Trump dickridders take a vacation? I don't quite agree with everything he said especially the one possibility that this tirade is to hide some nefarious connection with the Russians. The man and his admin is straight up anti Russia top to bottom.
    Yeah, the Rockwell site has been posting several sides/opinions on Trump lately. Been very interesting.

    I like Perry because he questions everything. Helps keep the mind open.
    There is no spoon.

  7. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I guess we should make a big deal that Donald Trump has been spied upon.
    I haven't heard of any presidential executive order, to stop the intellligences agencies spying on everybody under the guise of national security (but on the contrary have heard about Donald Trump increasing federal law enforcement violating our rights).

    Do sheeple still believe in some kind of physical wiretap?
    Please don't tell anybody that when you walk around with your cell phone, the information is send through the air. It cannot possibly be a violation of your privacy when the secret police listens in...
    YEP.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPtotheWH View Post
    yep. That's about all you need to know.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

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    First of all, this is not confirmed yet and these are allegations at this point.
    Secondly, even if it is confirmed later on, there is no proof that any such data was shared with our closest ally Israel even if Israel sees Iran and its allies like Russia as a threat.
    Let's wait till all the facts come out.




    James Woods on Obama: He’s the ‘gift from hell’
    The Washington Times Thursday
    The latest came this week, in response to a report from British press that revealed the National Security Agency commonly provides Israel with intelligence data — without first stripping out private and personal information on American citizens. The Guardian in London reported the item, the latest in its coverage of document leaks from Edward Snowden.
    Mr. Woods unleashed his views of the matter — and of Mr. Obama's role in allowing the practice to occur — on Twitter.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/12/james-woods-obama-hes-gift-hell/





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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Donald can declassify that right now if he wanted, but he's not. Either he has no clue what's going on and relies on Fox News for his "intel" (most likely), or there is something in those documents that he doesn't want out there (possible).
    If there was something damaging in the FISA documents the deep state would have released them by now.

    I believe that because DJT and many in his administration and not career bureaucrats that they may not know ho to get those documents from FISA.


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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    OMG, nobody tapped trump tower! Towers cant even talk! OMG, Trump lied, he said Obama was listening in on his calls. Obama didnt have time for that. The idea of Obama in a van listening in on Trumps calls is so ludicrous, it proves how crazy and dumb trump is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    OMG, nobody tapped trump tower! Towers cant even talk! OMG, Trump lied, he said Obama was listening in on his calls. Obama didnt have time for that. The idea of Obama in a van listening in on Trumps calls is so ludicrous, it proves how crazy and dumb trump is!
    Shirley, you jest.


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  15. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Watergate was not bugged, it was burglarized.

    Hope this helps.
    Still, you avoided the question, again.

    Hope you get the help you are so very in need of.
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Shirley, you jest.


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    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

    Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    Still, you avoided the question, again.

    Hope you get the help you are so very in need of.
    Help for what?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    This is causing rapport crumbling and fury.

    Rapport Between Donald Trump, Barack Obama Crumbles

    Budding feud is new distraction in a Trump presidency that has been struggling to enact its agenda

    March 7, 2017 9:44 p.m. ET The rapport between Barack Obama and Donald Trump is unraveling, with the president convinced that Mr. Obama is undermining his nascent administration and the former president furious over Trump tweets accusing him of illegal wiretapping, people close to the two men said.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/rapport...les-1488941082



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    OMG, their rapport! It was so good too!

    Anyways, let me consult my magic vault7:

    Did Obama spy on Trump?
    "He spied on everyone"

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    The server obama used to justify the warrant didn't belong to trump. It was set up by CIA agent and neverTrumper Evan Mcmullen's sister:


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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    asdgsklgjklsdaglk

    Trumplicans: They tapped Trumps Tower

    Ronpaulbots: They tapped EVERYBODY, where have you been, haven't you ever heard of Edward Snowden?

    They wiretap everyone and save the information on the servers in Bluffdale Utah. But, supposedly, to be able to read any of that information they need a warrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charrob View Post
    They wiretap everyone and save the information on the servers in Bluffdale Utah. But, supposedly, to be able to read any of that information they need a warrant.
    If you believe the President doesn't have access to this then you are the one who needs the tin foil hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    If you believe the President doesn't have access to this then you are the one who needs the tin foil hat.
    Unfortunately you are probably right, particularly for the President-- but only in supposed "national security" matters - which have something to do with the FISA laws. And for the President in particular in this situation, I guess the only reason to get the FISA warrants that Obama tried for in June 2016 (but was rejected) then tried again for in October 2016 (which was accepted) was to bring any misdeeds they found by Trump up in court. But i think ordinarily, when it's not the President, or for sure when it's not related to "national security", the idea is that they need a warrant to look at the collected data although, again, there seems to be little to no congressional oversight on this; so who knows what they do.

    All of it of course is unconstitutional.
    Last edited by charrob; 03-09-2017 at 10:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Help for what?
    Admitting to your denial is the first step to your recovery. ...That or it's a river in Egypt?
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    Admitting to your denial is the first step to your recovery. ...That or it's a river in Egypt?
    denial of what?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    denial of what?
    WTH? Are you are spam bot, I literally just posted this.
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

    Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber

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    POLITICS
    Kankakee Co. uses meme of Obama spying on Trump to urge residents to lock doors

    Updated 5 mins ago




    The Kankakee County Sheriff's Office published a Facebook post with an apparent Photoshopped picture of former President Barack Obama leaning into a window of Trump Tower with binoculars to spy on President Donald Trump. The post reads:

    "You never know who's spying on you to see if/when you lock your doors...
    "Join the #9PMRoutine
    "Don't make it easy on criminals! Make sure your doors are locked every night at 9 pm.

    "#LockYourDoors and lookout for your neighbors by reporting suspicious activity to police! Don't store your firearms in unattended vehicle(s)!"

    The emoji-laden warning was posted at 9 p.m. Wednesday on the Kankakee County Sheriff's Office verified Facebook page.

    A couple commenters praised the sheriff's office series of Lock Your Doors posts, which have included memes of Willy Wonka, Clint Eastwood, and a pregnant giraffe.

  33. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Let me guess. You're talking about anti-Trump threads, aren't you?

    If so, that's your reason right there.
    Are you attempting to justify lying about Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Are you attempting to justify lying about Trump?
    Are you?
    There is no spoon.

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