Amash Statement at Impeachment Debate

[Brian4Liberty]

Partial quote:

Thank you madam speaker I rise today in support of these articles of impeachment.
...
President Donald J Trump has abused and violated the public trust by using his high office to solicit the aid of a foreign power, not for the benefit of the United States of America, but instead for his personal and political gain. His actions reflect precisely the type of conduct the framers of the Constitution intended to remedy through the power of impeachment and it is our duty to impeach him.

[dannno]

Was it redonkulous, or is he coming around?

Edit: NM, obviously redonkulous based on partial quote.

[Danke]

[Brian4Liberty]

Was it redonkulous, or is he coming around?

He said the House has the sole power of impeachment. He quoted Alexander Hamilton who wrote about violating the public trust.

See the end of his statement in OP above.

[dannno]

He quoted Alexander Hamilton

LOL

[Cleaner44]

Amash is wrong. Investigating the crimes of Joe Biden is for the benefit of the United States of America.

Joe Biden is not running against Donald Trump. Biden is running against Sander, Warren and 20 other Democrats. Biden doesn't have the opportunity to run against Trump unless he first wins the nomination of the Democrat party.

[Swordsmyth]

Amash is owned by someone and they can make him say any idiotic thing they want.

[Swordsmyth]

Impeachment Vote Today: Constitutional Duty Or Political Farce?

Ron called it “a bunch of malarkey”.

Some highlights from this episode:

Ron 1:45 - “It’s a bunch of malarkey.”
Ron 4:50 - “Obstruction of Congress? I didn’t think that was such a bad idea, why doesn’t he obstruct about 90% of those laws they keep passing?”
Ron 5:20 - “Abuse of power? ... The system is abuse of power.”
Daniel 10:00 - Democrats are trying to divert from their own crimes.
Ron 12:00 - “Everything in Washington is quid pro quo. ... under a system where government controls everything.”
Ron 12:30 - What annoys him most are the hypocrites that are citing the Constitution.
Ron 21:40 - Send thank you notes to Nancy Pelosi if you are a Republican for helping in the upcoming election.

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[TheTexan]

President Donald J Trump has abused and violated the public trust by using his high office to solicit the aid of a foreign power, not for the benefit of the United States of America, but instead for his personal and political gain. His actions reflect precisely the type of conduct the framers of the Constitution intended to remedy through the power of impeachment and it is our duty to impeach him.

[TheTexan]

Senator Cruz makes several good points on the (lack of) constitutional legal basis for impeachment, but isn't he forgetting that impeachment for any reason is allowed by the Commerce clause and/or general welfare clause?

[Brian4Liberty]

Steny Hoyer spoke a bit about Amash during his grand summary speech. Used several past quotes from Amash, touted it as non-partisan support for impeachment.

[PAF]

Amash is owned by someone and they can make him say any idiotic thing they want.

This whole impeachment thing is ridiculous. But if Justin can utilize it while at the WH, whatever whatever.

Perhaps Justin will appeal to the disenfranchised republicans, and democrats in his demographic, as Ron Paul has repeatedly suggested. It is not left versus right, after all, it is liberty versus tyranny.

Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 94%


Anyway, for you to cut Justin down the way that you do, well, that speaks more than volumes. More than entire libraries. In fact, more than... more than a bucket of hot wings!

[Swordsmyth]

Steny Hoyer spoke a bit about Amash during his grand summary speech. Used several past quotes from Amash, touted it as non-partisan support for impeachment.

ALL the right friends:

Name: Steny Hoyer

Congress: Maryland, District: 5, Democrat

Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 16%

Status: Active Member of the House

Score Breakdown:
11% (116th Congress: 2019-2020); 10% (115th Congress: 2017-2018); 12% (114th Congress: 2015-2016); 17% (113th Congress: 2013-2014); 7% (112th Congress: 2011-2012); 2% (111th Congress: 2009-2010); 7% (110th Congress: 2007-2008); 30% (109th Congress: 2005-2006); 22% (108th Congress: 2003-2004); 16% (107th Congress: 2001-2002); 20% (106th Congress: 1999-2000)

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=H000874

[The Rebel Poet]

Senator Cruz makes several good points on the (lack of) constitutional legal basis for impeachment, but isn't he forgetting that impeachment for any reason is allowed by the Commerce clause and/or general welfare clause?

Since Trump cannot do wrong, any impeachment directed at him is unconstitutional.

[Swordsmyth]

This whole impeachment thing is ridiculous. But if Justin can utilize it while at the WH, whatever whatever.

Perhaps Justin will appeal to the disenfranchised republicans, and democrats in his demographic, as Ron Paul has repeatedly suggested. It is not left versus right, after all, it is liberty versus tyranny.

Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 94%


Anyway, for you to cut Justin down the way that you do, well, that speaks more than volumes. More than entire libraries. In fact, more than... more than a bucket of hot wings!

Amash has exposed himself as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

So have others.

[PAF]

Amash has exposed himself as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

So have others.

Bullcuck.

Your cutoff point is +/- 50%. My cutoff point is 90%.

I will continue supporting 94% Justin until his score drops below 90%.

You, on the other hand, well, keep on making excuses for team USA, and the most massive Omnibus in the entire history of this nation - something Obama couldn't even pull off!

You are more naked than a Playboy mag.

[Swordsmyth]

Your cutoff point is +/- 50%.

WRONG
I don't like people who aren't at least in the 70's

My cutoff point is 90%.

Which is too high and will keep you from ever succeeding.
If we ever get closer to liberty we can raise our standards that high.

I will continue supporting 94% Justin until his score drops below 90%.

No matter how destructive to liberty the 6% is.
Quality matters as well as quantity.

You, on the other hand, well, keep on making excuses for team USA, and the most massive Omnibus in the entire history of this nation - something Obama couldn't even pull off!

LOL
Now you are just making things up.

You are more naked than a Playboy mag.

Despite your low metaphor I don't mind showing the world what I am and what I support.
Your camo is failing.

[sparebulb]

I would respect Amash or any other member of congress that would recommend impeaching Trump on the horrible things that he's done rather than the fictitious things that he hasn't.

Trump should be impeached for not stopping the hoards of illegal invaders.

He should also be impeached for his attack and continued occupation of Syria to include the continued support for ISIS, etc.

[Swordsmyth]

I would respect Amash or any other member of congress that would recommend impeaching Trump on the horrible things that he's done rather than the fictitious things that he hasn't.

Trump should be impeached for not stopping the hoards of illegal invaders.

He should also be impeached for his attack and continued occupation of Syria to include the continued support for ISIS, etc.

If someone called for Trump's impeachment on actual Constitutional grounds I would respect them even if I disagreed for practical reasons.

P.S. Trump is doing a whole lot to stop the invasion and is limited by idiotic laws and tyrannical court rulings.

[euphemia]

Who cares what Amash says any more?

[sparebulb]

If someone called for Trump's impeachment on actual Constitutional grounds I would respect them even if I disagreed for practical reasons.

P.S. Trump is doing a whole lot to stop the invasion and is limited by idiotic laws and tyrannical court rulings.

Agreed on impeachment for Constitutional reasons.

Trump doesn't have the stomach or the balls for a Constitutional check on the judiciary.

Maybe it is part of the 4D strategy.

[euphemia]

I would respect Amash or any other member of congress that would recommend impeaching Trump on the horrible things that he's done rather than the fictitious things that he hasn't.

Trump should be impeached for not stopping the hoards of illegal invaders.

He should also be impeached for his attack and continued occupation of Syria to include the continued support for ISIS, etc.

You would have to impeach the whole of Congress them, because this is their responsibility.

[Swordsmyth]

Agreed on impeachment for Constitutional reasons.

Trump doesn't have the stomach or the balls for a Constitutional check on the judiciary.

Maybe it is part of the 4D strategy.

It's part of staying in office so he can do as much good as he can.
If he defied the court rulings openly he would have been impeached AND REMOVED long ago.

[Swordsmyth]

Who cares what Amash says any more?

Who is keeping his subforum on this site?

[enhanced_deficit]

To be fair, Amash used very dignified language and tone on the floor of Congress today; that speech should be a model for all sides while emotions are high.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6898224


On a side note, are leaders running the proceedings like a basketball game... what was with "gentleman recognized for 35 seconds".
My head hangs in shame almost over such minimalitistic approach while debating such a gigantic matter.

[sparebulb]

You would have to impeach the whole of Congress them, because this is their responsibility.

That would be a dream come true!

The Executive has not enforced our border and immigration laws.

The Executive HAS enforced laws made by the judiciary.

[devil21]

Since Trump cannot do wrong, any impeachment directed at him is unconstitutional.

You can't impeach a KING!!111!!11


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The Rothschild's magazine, The Economist, told us all in 2017 that they planned to use their agents in media and government to turn Trump into a King. It's all scripted and the not-so-bright fall for it every time.

[Brian4Liberty]

I can understand a desire to hold someone, anyone, finally accountable in the highest levels. It almost never happens. Too many examples to list.

On the other hand, this is the most trivial, non-crime that is being impeached. So trivial that it is actually another example of abuse of power by the majority party in the House, and an excessive, terrible, one at that. Abusing power to supposedly punish abuse of power?

Additionally, Amash has always prided himself on being non-partisan, to the point of being fanatically anti-partisan. Yet he has signed on with the most blatant, most extreme, most partisan-driven vote in the history of the US. Seems contradictory.

[enhanced_deficit]

I can understand a desire to hold someone, anyone, finally accountable in the highest levels. It almost never happens. Too many examples to list.

On the other hand, this is the most trivial, non-crime that is being impeached. So trivial that it is actually another example of abuse of power by the majority party in the House, and an excessive, terrible, one at that. Abusing power to supposedly punish abuse of power?

Additionally, Amash has always prided himself on being non-partisan, to the point of being fanatically anti-partisan. Yet he has signed on with the most blatant, most extreme, most partisan-driven vote in the history of the US. Seems contradictory.

Elected people do "partisan" things all the time.

But defense in Congress today from various Congress members who were defending Adelsons funded GOP POTUS...' Speaker Pelosi cannot undo election of a President who was elected by the people' seems hollow if if they used more accurate language like 'Conressional representatives' majority elected by the people impeached a Prez who was elected by the people'.
Clinton was also impeached in a partisan way, it is same story always in Congress.

[Swordsmyth]

Elected people do "partisan" things all the time.

But defense in Congress today from various Congress members who were defending Adelsons funded GOP POTUS...' Speaker Pelosi cannot undo election of a President who was elected by the people' seems hollow if if they used more accurate language like 'Conressional representatives' majority elected by the people impeached a Prez who was elected by the people'.
Clinton was also impeached in a partisan way, it is same story always in Congress.

Clinton's impeachment was NOTHING like this farce.