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Thread: Drudge this pic! (Ron Paul's support 2008 vs 2012)

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    Drudge this pic! (Ron Paul's support 2008 vs 2012)

    It may have been posted elsewhere but I made a small change to make it better - the two Nevada figures in the one I changed were crammed together, so I separated them.

    The caption? You tell me...

    08-12 change.jpg



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    why would we want to promote our shortcomings?

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    srsly guys wth happened in nevada :/

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    It's hard not to think there was some serious fraud going on there.

    I remember Angle was up on the polls 3+ points then lost to Reid by over 5 points. Turns out a lot of the polls machines are union run I believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    why would we want to promote our shortcomings?
    This chart illustrates how sketchy the official tallies were in Nevada. It’s intended to bring up questions of legitimacy.

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    2nd place is just the first loser... and we didn't even get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marky View Post
    This chart illustrates how sketchy the official tallies were in Nevada. It’s intended to bring up questions of legitimacy.
    Yeah, it might do that with RP supporters looking for a reason to excuse it. But it won't be used that way by drudge or any other media outlets.



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    prepare for tin-foil, conspiracy bashing. ....jackholes.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    God damn, when you look at it like that....that does look very suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cero View Post
    srsly guys wth happened in nevada :/
    Ever seen the movie Casino? watch the first 10 minutes.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    I suspect voter fraud. How could have have gained less than 100 new voters? No way. He should have doubled his numbers from 2008, but that would have made him a frontrunner, and they certainly don't want that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevin View Post
    I suspect voter fraud. How could have have gained less than 100 new voters? No way. He should have doubled his numbers from 2008, but that would have made him a frontrunner, and they certainly don't want that.
    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...es-future-des/
    From: 2010
    Jeff Hardcastle, the state’s demographer, estimates Nevada has 70,000 fewer residents since last year, including about 50,000 fewer in Clark County.

    Just as in those other cities, the population loss is in some ways entirely predictable.

    “People moved here for economic opportunity, so we expected them to leave when some of those opportunities ran out,” said Jeremy Aguero, principal of the consulting firm Applied Analysis.

    One need only check the price of a U-Haul. Renting a moving truck to drive to Dallas, which has been to a large degree spared during this recession, will cost you $1,026. Renting one in Dallas to drive here costs roughly half that because the company needs more trucks in Las Vegas.
    4 years of population loss; the majority of which are probably younger workers who are in Paul's base of support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...es-future-des/
    From: 2010


    4 years of population loss; the majority of which are probably younger workers who are in Paul's base of support.
    All the Paul supporters moved to New Hampshire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Jeff Hardcastle, the state’s demographer, estimates Nevada has 70,000 fewer residents since last year, including about 50,000 fewer in Clark County.
    Apparently they all moved to IA, NH, SC, & FL.....give me a break.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate



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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Apparently they all moved to IA, NH, SC, & FL.....give me a break.
    Take a minute to think critically about it. Or put the TURNOUT from 2008 vs. 2012 on the graph. There was much less turnout and the other candidates got less votes. Paul increased his numbers despite that. That's actually pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Apparently they all moved to IA, NH, SC, & FL.....give me a break.
    Census data shows their population went up, not down - if that means anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diashi View Post
    Why should that mean something, and the picture in the OP not mean something?
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    bull$#@!- that population drop explanation is a joke. i live in las vegas and can personally tell you the Ron Paul presence in 2012 is hugely more evident than 2008. there were more young people involved- yards signs, billboards, bumper stickers than ive ever seen- endorsements from local talk radio personalities etc. and clark county still has close to 3 million people- there is no mass exodus outta las vegas. even non- RP supporters will tell you- Ron Pauler's are everywhere. again-that excuse is bull$#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diashi View Post
    During which year range though? There are plenty of articles from NV sources talking about loss of population since 2008 - current.
    They grew quickly 2000-2008 though.

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    lots of people left during the housing collapse?
    I wish I could afford a cool Ron Paul T-shirt or bumper sticker. :-(

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    well, i see a total of approx. 170,000 votes MORE than 2008 at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    It's hard not to think there was some serious fraud going on there.

    I remember Angle was up on the polls 3+ points then lost to Reid by over 5 points. Turns out a lot of the polls machines are union run I believe...
    Wasn't their voting fraud in 08 as well?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SpicyTurkey View Post
    Wasn't their voting fraud in 08 as well?
    Las Vegas politics are as corrupt as Chicago's. It's the good ol boy network.

    I rejected any 'voter fraud' claims, but if you look at the chart in the OP, I think we'd all be seriously naive to think there wasn't fraud involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    It's hard not to think there was some serious fraud going on there.

    I remember Angle was up on the polls 3+ points then lost to Reid by over 5 points. Turns out a lot of the polls machines are union run I believe...
    If you (not you, but a general you) knew how we've involved ourselves with endlessly rigging, manipulating, stifling, or crushing most true democratic movements or elections in countless other countries throughout the last half century, what makes you think we wouldn't do it here in the Homeland?
    Last edited by tfurrh; 02-06-2012 at 02:54 PM.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    If you (not you, but a general you) knew how we've involved ourselves with endlessly rigging, manipulating, stifling, or crushing most true democratic movements or elections in countless other countries throughout the last half century, what makes you think we wouldn't do it here in the Homeland?
    After seeing the complete and utter bias of all major MSM networks, what makes anyone think they'd stop there? We are up against the machine and they have shown us they'll stop at nothing. And it does not take rigging every election, just select, key ones that matter, to try and control the outcome.

    Nevada was ripe for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    After seeing the complete and utter bias of all major MSM networks, what makes anyone think they'd stop there? We are up against the machine and they have shown us they'll stop at nothing. And it does not take rigging every election, just select, key ones that matter, to try and control the outcome.

    Nevada was ripe for it.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Romulus again.

    I agree. I've not bought into any 'voter fraud' discussions in any previous states. I did get upset with the 'Santorum Surge' in IA, but I didn't think the caucus results were rigged.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Ron Paul's support in primaries/caucuses from 2008/2012


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    You'd be better off sending that pic to Nate Silver than Drudge at this point...

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