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    Amazon removes hosting for Parler

    They did it.

    I hope RPFs has backups...

    You guys might want to download MeWe as well, I grabbed it because some of our people have some decent followings on there but I haven’t signed up yet. I feel it’s on the watchlist for takedown..

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...mes-1-download

    Update (2130 ET): And so the hammer has come down late on Saturday, when Amazon officially kicked Parler off its cloud Web hosting service, AWS according to Buzzfeed. The suspension means that once the ban takes effect on Sunday, the website - which as of this moment is still up - will be offline until it finds someone else to host it.

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    Update (2100 ET): As expected, Apple removed Parler permanently from its app store on Saturday. "[T]here is no place on our platform for threats of violence and illegal activity," the iPhone maker said, according to CNN which adds that Apple notified Parler of its decision in a message that said it had violated the company's app store terms.

    "The processes Parler has put in place to moderate or prevent the spread of dangerous and illegal content have proved insufficient," Apple told Parler. "Specifically, we have continued to find direct threats of violence and calls to incite lawless action in violation of Guideline 1.1 - Safety - Objectionable Content."
    Last edited by The Northbreather; 01-10-2021 at 09:11 AM.



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    They are being given about 24 hours to find a new host, which I am not sure they will. Their best bet is to self-host but that will open them up to a ton of other problems. To my knowledge, there aren't that many good competitors to AWS that are likely to host their site.

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    I bet Larry Ellison (oracle) will do it no prob, he hates Amazon.
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    Amazon removes hosting for Parler
    Good. This is more heat for the crucible.
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    Does no one want to make some money?

    If I were an executive at a hosting service, I'd be reaching out to Parler and talking numbers immediately.

    Putting that simple narrative argument outta the way, we all know what's going on and why. I wish Parler the best...
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    It’s analogous to physical gold vs. paper gold. If they have their own servers, it’s like physical gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Does no one want to make some money?
    ...
    Making money is a complex calculation. You don’t make money if you get shutdown for doing business with infidels or deplorables.
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    Who is selling Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Twitter stock on Monday?
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Making money is a complex calculation. You don’t make money if you get shutdown for doing business with infidels or deplorables.
    True, of course. But, I hope many of these companies will start seeing that their own wokeness is now a self-defeating cycle.

    Purge half of the country, start filing into an echo chamber of society's scum and welfare recipients, commies, etc. You won't make much more money that way, either. I hope they all learn a good lesson in time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Who is selling Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Twitter stock on Monday?
    It's a good idea, I'd encourage anyone to do this who owns these fools.


    Edit:

    Anyone know a music streaming service that I can replace for Amazon Music? Preferably one that we [at least currently know of] not being full of a bunch of woke commies that will try to make petty statements?
    Last edited by Okie RP fan; 01-09-2021 at 10:54 PM.
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    So I guess I'll be canceling my Prime account too.

    AWS sucks anyway. It would be much cheaper just to host themselves. The real problem begins when ISPs start getting in on this action.

    Hopefully companies take note and get off this absurd "cloud" bandwagon. It's more expensive and you put your entire business at risk of being shut down in a moments notice on the whims of a few communists in their mid-twenties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Does no one want to make some money?

    If I were an executive at a hosting service, I'd be reaching out to Parler and talking numbers immediately.
    I was in the business for 5 years. I'm already telling folks I know to jump on the opportunity. Doubt they will though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Anyone know a music streaming service that I can replace for Amazon Music? Preferably one that we [at least currently know of] not being full of a bunch of woke commies that will try to make petty statements?
    Spotify?

    https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/new...potify-955388/

    In total, at the close of last year, SEC documents show that exactly 65 percent of Spotify was owned by just six parties: the firm’s co-founders, Daniel Ek and Martin Lorentzon (30.6 percent of ordinary shares between them); Tencent Holdings Ltd. (9.1 percent); and a run of three asset-management specialists: Baillie Gifford (11.8 percent), Morgan Stanley (7.3 percent), and T.Rowe Price Associates (6.2 percent). These three investment powerhouses owned more than 25 percent of Spotify between them — a fact worth remembering next time there’s an argument about whose interests Spotify is acting in when it makes controversial moves (for example, SPOT’s ongoing legal appeal against a royalty pay rise for songwriters in the United States).

    Furthermore, according to MBW estimates, which my sources suggest are still solid, two major record companies — Sony Music Entertainment and Universal Music Group — continue to jointly own between six percent and seven percent of Spotify (Sony around 2.35 percent and Universal around 3.5). With Sony and UMG added into the mix, then, the names mentioned here comfortably own more than 70 percent of Spotify.
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    Fantastic

    ...you have no right to the services of any of these enterprises.

    Don't like it? Don't use it
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 01-09-2021 at 11:56 PM.

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    Any company on the cloud puts their fate in somebody else’s hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Fantastic

    ...you have no right to the services of any of these enterprises.

    Don't like it? Don't use it
    That would be a really good theory if these companies were free market enterprises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Any company on the cloud puts their fate in somebody else’s hand.
    Even if they had their own servers they're reliant on data centers and service providers.
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    Gab has their own servers & is running fine.

    They have been fighting big tech for years & following path of independence

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Gab has their own servers & is running fine.

    They have been fighting big tech for years & following path of independence
    Gab is hosted by epik.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Gab has their own servers & is running fine.

    They have been fighting big tech for years & following path of independence
    They only got cut off from all banking services etc.
    And what happens when the ISPs decide to block them? or when the DNS services decide to block them? etc.?
    And don't say it can't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Who is selling Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Twitter stock on Monday?
    Our household will be canceling our prime subscription.

    BUT, we're fooling ourselves if we think these companies are worried about their profit margins. I've long suspected that the government has their backs. Boycott for our own personal satisfaction, but don't expect them to go under.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    So I guess I'll be canceling my Prime account too.

    AWS sucks anyway. It would be much cheaper just to host themselves. The real problem begins when ISPs start getting in on this action.

    Hopefully companies take note and get off this absurd "cloud" bandwagon. It's more expensive and you put your entire business at risk of being shut down in a moments notice on the whims of a few communists in their mid-twenties.
    I remember reading a couple of years ago about a liberty focused ISP. I believe it was a WIRED article iirc. Thought it was posted here too..

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Does no one want to make some money?
    In the fiat world it doesn't matter. The central banks will just give them more. That's why they don't care about money anymore. We saw it first with banks. Customers and banking have become an unnecessary nuance to them. Instead they can just buy up speculative assets pretty much risk free.

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    RPF is hosted on a Private Server?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Does no one want to make some money?

    If I were an executive at a hosting service, I'd be reaching out to Parler and talking numbers immediately.

    Putting that simple narrative argument outta the way, we all know what's going on and why. I wish Parler the best...
    There's more money to be made by doing what the left wants. Besides, for most of these tech companies it's not about money, they'd gladly go broke to force their ideology on you.

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    If only we had Libertarians back in the 1955 to tell Rosa Parks to build her own bus and roads

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    That would be a really good theory if these companies were free market enterprises.
    I've seen more libertarians and conservatives continue to spout this line of "they're private companies, they can do what they want. Go start your own."

    The people who did start their own (Parler) are still being taken offline.
    And these companies aren't private. Michael Rectenwald has plenty of material about all of this showing how Twitter, Google, Facebook, etc. are all very much in bed with the government to the point where we can't call them private. And most of them are taking orders very similar to the CCP's policies on censorship...

    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    If only we had Libertarians back in the 1955 to tell Rosa Parks to build her own bus and roads
    Yea, people are still stuck with this mindset and I'm struggling to understand how people can still be so ingrained in their own thought processes to not see what is happening today transcends the simple arguments of yesterday.
    Last edited by Okie RP fan; 01-10-2021 at 02:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Fantastic

    ...you have no right to the services of any of these enterprises.

    Don't like it? Don't use it
    Literally nobody before you in this thread was claiming they have any right to these services. Instead everybody is presenting alternatives, like a typical RPF'er would and should.

    You act like nobody else here understands these principles that have been repeated over and over to death for the last decade, but instead think that you're the only smart one in the room. After ten years of measuring each others' dicks, this libertarian virtue signaling needs to end.

    Parler is already working on their own alternative, something they claimed to already have in place but needs one week to get everyone back up after getting kicked off AWS. They didn't cry about claiming to be entitled to AWS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Literally nobody before you in this thread was claiming they have any right to these services. Instead everybody is presenting alternatives, like a typical RPF'er would and should.

    You act like nobody else here understands these principles that have been repeated over and over to death for the last decade, but instead think that you're the only smart one in the room. After ten years of measuring each others' dicks, this libertarian virtue signaling needs to end.

    Parler is already working on their own alternative, something they claimed to already have in place but needs one week to get everyone back up after getting kicked off AWS. They didn't cry about claiming to be entitled to AWS.
    In bold, it has to stop, period. We can still respectfully disagree, but the snobbery is so uninviting and we have at our hands an opportunity to ride a bigger wave that's rolling to shore. I wish more libertarians and ancaps saw this instead of just b*tching about Trump and his supporters.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    I bet Larry Ellison (oracle) will do it no prob, he hates Amazon.
    I hope you don't really believe that. Oracle is just as deep in bed with the intel community (deep state tm) as the rest of them are.

    People have been screaming for years about the ridiculous consolidation of internet control under Google and AWS. What we're seeing now is exactly why.

    They're all In-Q-Tel funded, MIT/DARPA developed projects (along with FB, Twitter, etc), designed for exactly the purpose they're displaying today. All of this cloud stuff is materializing now into the WEF's "You will own nothing" vision. They're pushing for no one to have any control over data except them, Oracle included. But no, there's no plan and no script
    Last edited by devil21; 01-10-2021 at 10:55 PM.
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