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    Trump Touts USMCA at Kellogg Arena Christmas Rally - December 18, 2019

    December 18, 2019





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    As this article is being written, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is expected to schedule a vote on H.R. 5430 for Thursday, December 19, 2019. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has previously stated that the Senate will not vote on USMCA implementation legislation until after an impeachment trial. While the date of a vote may not be certain in the Senate, the following is certain: When the House of Representatives and Senate vote on H.R. 5430, they will not be voting on a simple “free trade” agreement; this vote may determine the fate of the United States and its longevity as an independent and sovereign nation. A Yea for USMCA is an Yea for regionalism and a globalist world order.

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    But I was told Trump was better than Bushclintonbushobama because he would kill TPP, not make it stronger. Right, @LibertyEagle?

    Ask not, "Why impeachment?" Distracting you from this is the main reason.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-19-2019 at 02:25 PM.
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    Red flag laws, globalism and a uuuuuge police state. Whoopieeee
    "The Patriarch"

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    Oh ya, I forgot stealing other countries resources.
    "The Patriarch"

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    USMCA: Threat to Our Independence

    USMCA: Threat to Our Independence
    The United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA or NAFTA 2.0) picks up where NAFTA left off. NAFTA was originally intended as “the architecture of a new international system” and not as a conventional trade agreement. It set the foundation to integrate the three North American countries. The USMCA will move us closer to a full-blown EU-style North American Union.

    Even though President Trump withdrew the US from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), sections of the TPP show up in the USMCA word-for-word! In fact, chief globalists are already endorsing the agreement.

    Unaccountable Entangling Bureaucracy
    Chapter 30 of the USMCA/NAFTA 2.0 establishes a new governing bureaucracy – an unelected, unaccountable Free Trade Commission overseeing various lower regional committees. Much like the TPP Commission, the Free Trade Commission can make changes to the USMCA without the consent of Congress. This completely undermines Congress’ Constitutional Article I, Section 8 power to regulate trade with foreign nations.

    Consistent with other globalist schemes, the USMCA follows the “rules-based system” of submission to international bodies such as the World Trade Organization, International Labor Organization, a plethora of United Nations conventions including the Law of Sea Treaty (which the U.S. has never ratified), and the furtherance of “sustainable development,” which is mentioned no less than six times in the environment chapter.

    Part of a World Government Build-up
    The USMCA is part of a startling, but purposeful, strategy used by the globalist elites to integrate individual nations into regional unions with overarching unaccountable bureaucracy. These regional unions help to create a “new world order” that is being organized under the United Nations. The UN’s Commission on Global Governance wrote in 1995 “regional cooperation and integration should be seen as an important and integral part of a balanced system of global governance.”

    Existing unions include the European Union, African Union, Union of South America, Eurasian Economic Union, and more. We’ve stopped similar trade deals in the past, including the Free Trade Area of the Americas, the Security and Prosperity Partnership, the TPP, and the TTIP.
    http://www.jbs.org/usmca/
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Red flag laws, globalism and a uuuuuge police state. Whoopieeee
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Oh ya, I forgot stealing other countries resources.

    Oh ye of little faith. Trust The Plan (TM). Our glorious orange God Emperor has it under control. Quantum Dark Energy Wormhole Chess and all.
    Chris

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    Even the zionist Greg Hunter isnt even defending this

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    This happened only yesterday, is it too soon to get a logical explanation from @Swordsmyth ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This happened only yesterday, is it too soon to get a logical explanation from @Swordsmyth ?
    Trump cuts deals in order to stay in office.
    He may also be planning on arranging for it to fail at the last moment.

    But he has done much more against globalism than for it and this new deal has a sunset provision where NAFTA did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump cuts deals in order to stay in office.
    He may also be planning on arranging for it to fail at the last moment.

    But he has done much more against globalism than for it and this new deal has a sunset provision where NAFTA did not.
    I see. He already signed it. All it needs is ratified.

    Did you hear the cheers and applaud of the crowd during his speech?

    What will be your take after it is voted on and passed?

    Do you think trump is doing the right thing by talking it up, instead of warning The People about how bad it really is?

    Are you aware that he had the top dog from the TriLat Commission author the thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump cuts deals in order to stay in office.
    He may also be planning on arranging for it to fail at the last moment.

    But he has done much more against globalism than for it and this new deal has a sunset provision where NAFTA did not.
    Edited for nice.
    Last edited by Slave Mentality; 12-19-2019 at 10:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Oh ye of little faith. Trust The Plan (TM). Our glorious orange God Emperor has it under control. Quantum Dark Energy Wormhole Chess and all.
    Your crystal ball is still working...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump cuts deals in order to stay in office.
    He may also be planning on arranging for it to fail at the last moment.

    But he has done much more against globalism than for it and this new deal has a sunset provision where NAFTA did not.
    Practically excuse for excuse. Does that thing do the stock market?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Your crystal ball is still working...



    Practically excuse for excuse. Does that thing do the stock market?

    I'd love to be able to claim that predicting what Trump worshipers and their fellow travelers will say requires some special skill or arcane secret knowledge, but the truth is you just need to folllw a simple formula. Just imagine the most naive, delusional, insane excuses you can come up with, multiply that by several orders of magnitude and you've got their likeliest response. Simple.
    Chris

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    Trump cuts deals to stay in office.

    Someone actually said that to defend the TPP? USMCA?

    ETA: The more I think about it, the dumber that is.

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    The crowd is cheering for their increased taxes on goods being given to mostly the well connected farmers and not the average working farmer. I guess his followers can't help but appreciate Trump being so magnanimous with handouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Trump cuts deals to stay in office.

    Someone actually said that to defend the TPP? USMCA?

    ETA: The more I think about it, the dumber that is.

    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to angelatc again."
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    Donnie never says a word about the UN or Agenda 21 2030. That's how ya know he's bull$#@! and nothing more than a mouthpiece for globalists. Republicans are expected to think "Oh rah! Support our troopz" when they hear "USMCA" and turn their brains off.
    Last edited by devil21; 12-20-2019 at 02:44 AM.
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    @acptulsa @Origanalist @CCTelander @Slave Mentality @devil21 @angelatc @kpitcher @enhanced_deficit

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Trump cuts deals to stay in office.

    Someone actually said that to defend the TPP? USMCA?

    ETA: The more I think about it, the dumber that is.
    The whole thing was his $#@!ing idea in the first place.



    Swordsmyth will go right back to shlobbing his pasty toadstool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Trump cuts deals to stay in office.

    Someone actually said that to defend the TPP? USMCA?

    ETA: The more I think about it, the dumber that is.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to angelatc again.

    There's always some excuse for every awful thing Trump does. The funniest one was that Trump did the bumpfire stock ban by executive order to "take away democratic talking points on gun control."
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Oh ye of little faith. Trust The Plan (TM). Our glorious orange God Emperor has it under control. Quantum Dark Energy Wormhole Chess and all.
    How come the things Amash gets crap for are never 3D chess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    How come the things Amash gets crap for are never 3D chess?

    I think it's a Highlander kind of thing. When it comes to Quantum Dark Energy Wormhole Chess Masters, "there can be only one."
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post


    Donnie never says a word about the UN or Agenda 21 2030. That's how ya know he's bull$#@! and nothing more than a mouthpiece for globalists. Republicans are expected to think "Oh rah! Support our troopz" when they hear "USMCA" and turn their brains off.
    Look at that pile of paper. It’s like an omnibus. Crammed full of special interest agendas and handouts no doubt. That’s a huge problem. No telling what is hidden in there (other than full employment for international lawyers and legal experts). Probably nobody knows.

    Which member of Congress read that thing before they voted “aye”? Trump certainly didn’t read it. His schtick is that he negotiated a better deal, but he doesn’t have a clue, unless he has a few pages of things that were of special interest to him. It’s not just a “free trade” deal, that’s for sure.

    Nothing that big should ever pass Congress or be signed by a POTUS.

    In the video, they talk about law of the sea and ocean fisheries. That is an interesting subject. But no need for it to be buried in something that nobody has read. It should be a specific subject all on it’s own.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 12-20-2019 at 12:26 PM.
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    We had our chance to elect a president who would have read everything he signed.



    Some of us decided making heads splode was more important than liberty.

    Didn't we?
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to
    @acptulsa @Origanalist @CCTelander @Slave Mentality @devil21 @angelatc @kpitcher @enhanced_deficit

    again."
    I feel ya. The crowd is getting so small, sigh.



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