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Thread: Kim Dotcom to launch mega.co.nz on Sunday

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    Kim Dotcom to launch mega.co.nz on Sunday

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/ki...-1226557093490

    Dotcom's new venture, mega.co.nz, aims to recreate the success of his Megaupload empire, which boasted 50 million daily visitors and accounted for four per cent of all internet traffic before it was shut down after the police raid.

    The 38-year-old, who changed his name from Kim Schmitz, remains free on bail in New Zealand as US authorities seek his extradition on a range of charges including money laundering, racketeering and copyright theft.

    They allege Megaupload sites netted more than $US175 million ($A166.7 million) in criminal proceeds and cost copyright owners more than $US500 million by offering pirated copies of movies, TV shows, music and other content.

    Dotcom denies any wrongdoing and the charges, which carry jail terms of up to 20 years, have not discouraged him from launching the new Mega service, which he has enthusiastically promoted on Twitter in recent weeks.

    "I think you will be very happy with the new #Mega," he tweeted on Friday. "It's like time travel. We'll take you to the future".

    The tech entrepreneur has promised an "epic" launch for the new site and even impersonated Willy Wonka to promote it at an Auckland shop on Thursday, handing out tubs of ice cream with golden tickets to the event hidden in them.

    Details of the planned service are scarce, but the site promises to use state-of-the-art encryption methods that mean only users, not the site's administrators, know what they are uploading.

    That would theoretically stop authorities from accusing administrators of knowingly aiding online piracy, the central allegation facing Dotcom.

    Dotcom has said Mega will offer users 50GB of free storage, significantly more than similar sites such as Dropbox and Google Drive, but most details remain under wraps until they are unveiled on Sunday at the Dotcom Mansion.

    The German national was preparing for his birthday party at the lavish Auckland property in January last year when armed police staged a dawn raid, tracking him down in a hidden panic room running off his bedroom.

    Officers seized more than a dozen luxury cars, including a 1959 pink Cadillac, along with valuable artworks and a sawn-off shotgun, while Dotcom's bank accounts were frozen and he spent more than a month in jail.

    Eventually freed on bail, his legal team have enjoyed a number of successes challenging the prosecution case, including a ruling that the police raid was illegal and a government admission that Dotcom was illegally spied upon before his arrest.

    The extradition hearing is due to be heard in August.



    -t
    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 01-24-2013 at 01:55 PM.



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    I'm sure the New Zealand government are going to be delighted that they're going to be the center of promoting pedophile, rape, bestiality and incest pictures and movies. I'm sure that's just the image they want to portray to the world.
    Last edited by itshappening; 01-19-2013 at 09:50 AM.

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    I'm sure they will welcome becoming known as the "Swiss Bank" of data, where open source software is distributed, music from independent artists can be obtained, and being a new major player in the cloud. I doubt they will mind the tax revenues either.

    This also has the potential to become the new YouTube or ViVo.

    Personally, I won't shed any tears that my data can no longer be handed over to any Gvmt thug that asks for it.

    Sure, it will be used to store some data that some people won't like - especially RIAA and MIAA. Do you seriously think that data you don't like doesn't already have plenty of homes in the worldwide cloud? Do you seriously think this site coming online will make any difference what so ever ON IMPOSING YOUR WILL AND MORALITY ON OTHERS BY GVMT FORCE?

    Lets also be realistic. Mega used to be responsible for 4% of all internet traffic. Either "donkey shows" got a whole lot more popular while I wasn't paying attention or most people are downloading movies, TV shows, music and software.

    You sound like a congress critter screaming about how they must steal more of our rights "for the children". Total straw man argument!

    -t

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    I'm sure they will welcome becoming known as the "Swiss Bank" of data, where open source software is distributed, music from independent artists can be obtained, and being a new major player in the cloud. I doubt they will mind the tax revenues either.

    This also has the potential to become the new YouTube or ViVo.

    Personally, I won't shed any tears that my data can no longer be handed over to any Gvmt thug that asks for it.

    Sure, it will be used to store some data that some people won't like - especially RIAA and MIAA. Do you seriously think that data you don't like doesn't already have plenty of homes in the worldwide cloud? Do you seriously think this site coming online will make any difference what so ever ON IMPOSING YOUR WILL AND MORALITY ON OTHERS BY GVMT FORCE?

    Lets also be realistic. Mega used to be responsible for 4% of all internet traffic. Either "donkey shows" got a whole lot more popular while I wasn't paying attention or most people are downloading movies, TV shows, music and software.

    You sound like a congress critter screaming about how they must steal more of our rights "for the children". Total straw man argument!

    -t
    Unlikely, that place will become a haven for pedophile, rape and bestiality content that will be spread everywhere. Just watch.

    New Zealand don't want that image so will have no option to shut it down and will eventually become highly embarrassed.

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    it's also going to lead to more charges from the DoJ against him and any webhosts that collaborate with his effort to promote illegal, encrypted child porn.

    The executives of the hosting providers that enable it will be fair game for international arrest warrants.

    What can go wrong!

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    Just like every other cloud based file or image hosting service has shut down because a tiny percentage of their traffic is frowned upon.



    If there is any argument against it, it's copywrite infringement.

    -t

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    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 01-19-2013 at 10:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    Just like every other cloud based file or image hosting service has shut down because a tiny percentage of their traffic is frowned upon.



    If there is any argument against it, it's copywrite infringement.

    -t
    The difference is most places aren't encrypting and take action against illegal behavior and co-operate with law enforcement.

    Kim won't and therefore will get busted along with anyone who enables the distribution of child pornography by being part of it.

    The indictments and arrest warrants will come down on the executives of hosting and telecommunications providers and New Zealand will be at the center of an international storm. I'm sure they're not going to want that image and will eventually kick him out.



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    And the irony in all this is that pirates spend 30% more on music than non-sharers.
    "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickZ06 View Post
    And the irony in all this is that pirates spend 30% more on music than non-sharers.
    what about pedo's ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickZ06 View Post
    And the irony in all this is that pirates spend 30% more on music than non-sharers.
    I didn't know that. However, when I was using P2P more, I'd visit those sites that said if you like this band, you'll probably like this other one. I generally didn't like 90% of what I downloaded, but that remaining 10% had me going to the local CD/DVD store and buying a lot more disks than I would have otherwise after discovering new bands.

    @itshappening: ssshhh! - I guess you didn't get the memo. Some people encrypt their files before uploading them then give a URL and password to those who they want to access the files.

    EVERY company that offers this kind of a service has in their TOS "no illegal content" and will take it down if informed it exists.

    There are quite a few pay services that offer automated ENCRYPTED backups of your HD. I'm also pretty sure the iPhone cloud is also encrypted. Oddly, DoJ isn't busting them left and right.

    Remember SKYPE? It may still be encrypted, or maybe that's already gone. Micro$haft bought it and is putting in a backdoor to allow gvmt snooping. People are starting to look at other programs and quite a few are popping up.

    -t

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    Quote Originally Posted by itshappening View Post
    what about pedo's ?
    You mean they never existed before the internet boom?
    "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickZ06 View Post
    You mean they never existed before the internet boom?
    do pedo's spend money on music too?

    does that make their crime of distributing child porn via mega's servers any less relevant?

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    I used megaupload all the time and I never used it to access anything remotely like that. Why should Kim and I be punished for the crimes of others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itshappening View Post
    do pedo's spend money on music too?

    does that make their crime of distributing child porn via mega's servers any less relevant?
    You almost get it. It is THEIR crime. Not his, and not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    I didn't know that. However, when I was using P2P more, I'd visit those sites that said if you like this band, you'll probably like this other one. I generally didn't like 90% of what I downloaded, but that remaining 10% had me going to the local CD/DVD store and buying a lot more disks than I would have otherwise after discovering new bands.

    @itshappening: ssshhh! - I guess you didn't get the memo. Some people encrypt their files before uploading them then give a URL and password to those who they want to access the files.

    EVERY company that offers this kind of a service has in their TOS "no illegal content" and will take it down if informed it exists.

    There are quite a few pay services that offer automated ENCRYPTED backups of your HD. I'm also pretty sure the iPhone cloud is also encrypted. Oddly, DoJ isn't busting them left and right.

    Remember SKYPE? It may still be encrypted, or maybe that's already gone. Micro$haft bought it and is putting in a backdoor to allow gvmt snooping. People are starting to look at other programs and quite a few are popping up.

    -t
    The DoJ went after mega's internet hosting providers, just like they will indict the executives of any companies who are part of the latest scheme to distribute illegal content on a massive scale.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jonhowe View Post
    You almost get it. It is THEIR crime. Not his, and not mine.
    They facilitate it and are complicit. That's why Mega got shut down in the first place.

    Just being a provider is no excuse for knowingly hosting terrabytes of child porn on your servers.
    Last edited by itshappening; 01-19-2013 at 11:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonhowe View Post
    I used megaupload all the time and I never used it to access anything remotely like that. Why should Kim and I be punished for the crimes of others?
    Because the others are being tolerated and are engaging in illegal activity so the whole service has to be shut down, that's just the way it is.

    And anyone connected with it like hosting providers can expect indictments once it can be proved to a Grand Jury that they're knowingly and willfully part of a child porn distribution network, which isn't hard to do because Kim's megaupload links will be all over Usenet and child porn forums along with warez and other infringing content.

    Like I said, what can go wrong?
    Last edited by itshappening; 01-19-2013 at 11:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itshappening View Post
    I'm sure the New Zealand government are going to be delighted that they're going to be the center of promoting pedophile, rape, bestiality and incest pictures and movies. I'm sure that's just the image they want to portray to the world.
    .... How would you know? Experience or anecdote. I'm guessing the former. You don't know what you are talking about. Ever heard of TOR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkingpointes View Post
    .... How would you know? Experience or anecdote. I'm guessing the former. You don't know what you are talking about. Ever heard of TOR?
    Yes i've heard of TOR (and so has the DoJ and law enforcement) and exit nodes are not anonymous and can be traced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itshappening View Post
    Yes i've heard of TOR (and so has the DoJ and law enforcement) and exit nodes are not anonymous and can be traced.
    I didn't ask you about to TOR to find that out. I asked you to gauge what you know about encryption. You don't provide proof of your wild pedophilia assertion though. Coincidence I'm sure. Also how do propose controlling the upload behavior of 100k+ people?

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    No, nodes are necessarily anonymous. You will always have a mac ID. (which you can clone and proxy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkingpointes View Post
    I didn't ask you about to TOR to find that out. I asked you to gauge what you know about encryption. You don't provide proof of your wild pedophilia assertion though. Coincidence I'm sure. Also how do propose controlling the upload behavior of 100k+ people?
    The deep web and TOR (where exit nodes can be traced by law enforcement so you're not anonymous and secure as you think) is different to knowingly distributing illegal content and child porn on central servers whether it's encrypted or not. In fact being encrypted is just going to make it worse for any of Kim's hosting providers because it's going to attract pirates and child porn distributors on a massive scale and the indictments will come down on their executives like a fly on $#@!. Plus the New Zealand government won't enjoy the storm either so we'll see how it goes!

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    double post..
    Last edited by itshappening; 01-19-2013 at 11:33 AM.



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    Also people with an obsession with catching or punishing pedophiles always raises flags. Don't be the guy in HS calling everyone a ***/*****, or people will begin to think otherwise about you. Not directing any sort of name calling, just observing and providing opinion.

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    How do you know this. Provide proof. You sould like a parrot for the FBI. ZOMG kiddie porn on the net, NO WAY !!!! (lets bust everyone) What the %^% is the deep web? Is that 733t speak or something ? Are you talking about the portion of the internet which is archives and info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkingpointes View Post
    How do you know this. Provide proof. You sould like a parrot for the FBI. ZOMG kiddie porn on the net, NO WAY !!!! (lets bust everyone) What the %^% is the deep web? Is that 733t speak or something ? Are you talking about the portion of the internet which is archives and info?
    The proof of child porn will be collected by the DoJ when the service is up and running and the child porn folks are attracted to it as it was with the original mega, the links will end up on Usenet, lolita and warez forums. I don't track those but i'm pretty sure law enforcement will.

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    double post. having problems with the forum timing out.
    Last edited by itshappening; 01-19-2013 at 11:37 AM.

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    So basically you can't prove it and are just going to hope for it to materialize in the future. (double entendre: i wonder why)

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkingpointes View Post
    So basically you can't prove it and are just going to hope for it to materialize in the future. (double entendre: i wonder why)
    What are you on about? The original mega was shut down because proof of infringing content and the links to it were posted all over child porn and warez forums.

    The same will happen again but it'll be compounded by the false sense of security that being an encrypted service conveys, more pirates and child sex people will be signing up and posting the links all over the place. Any hosting providers who are part of the network will get busted along with Kim.

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