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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
"non-discrimination" is a direct contradiction to the first amendment.
The wording should specifically say its government non discrimination.
THE SQUAD of RPF
1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick
@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
Personally, I'd be happier if no rights were stomped on, but one only has to look at the perversion of the 1st Amendment for an example. Cross shaped monuments on public land from long ago would be covered under free exercise instead if "establishment" if preserving liberty was the goal of the PTB.
Opening any door a crack for these $#@!s invariably leads to a flood of usurpations.
Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan
I understand your concern and doubts for politicians to do the right thing. We've seen how not defending the Constitution and rights under Trump as well as Obama, Bush and the rest has worked out. But isn't clarifying rights a good thing to do? In that something passed could easily clarify what's being protected and not automatically stomping on rights.
btw I can already feel your doubts about that happening, lol.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
He voted to impeach the President of the Unites States for a non-crime. That is what matters. His TDS allowed him to drop the standard of impeachment to "Orange Man Bad!"
Not upholding his oath to the Constitution in my opinion. He was sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. We are living in a time where Democrats have been caught in their corruption and now are doing anything they can to deflect attention to the President. They committed fraud on the FISA courts and numerous other offenses.
What is Amash's course of action? He helps the criminal Democrats. He helps provide cover for Joe Biden extorting Ukraine. That is what matters.
Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
He's running for re-election as an Independent, so he needs some D votes too. Not rocket science to see why he's talking about equal rights, though I don't understand why people think government discrimination is ok in the first place. Any way, it's election season, lighten up.
(Or does Trump get to be the only person running for federal office that panders to voting blocks while campaigning and then doesn't act on it? When he does it, it's 4D chess, right?)
There's something really wrong if you still call yourself a libertarian but want to throw Justin Amash under the bus in favor of Donald Trump, of all people, who has nothing whatsoever in common with libertarians and never has.
Last edited by devil21; 02-21-2020 at 12:32 AM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Is that why Trump didn't veto increased spending? Because he's moving in our direction?
Is that why we're still in the Middle East bombing places like Syria because they aren't playing nice while fighting our enemy Al Qaeda? Because he's moving in our direction?
Amashs votes prove he's in our corner and Trump isn't. I get it. Amash doesn't like your boy toy Trump and big government. Grow a pair and learn to stand up to tyranny instead of bowing down to it.
Cool orange straw man you have there.
I consider myself a libertarian because I believe in The Philosophy of Liberty.
Amash used to be libertarian, but now is in TDS land of confusion.
Trump is not a libertarian, but we do have some overlap. I see much in common between Trump and libertarians. If you don't that is fine, I am not going to spend time attempting to convince you otherwise.
Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Cherry pick? You specifically are upset over 1 point. Impeachment of Trump. Amash has one of the top conservative voting records within the top 20. That's my proof.
Trump increases government by not vetoing spending, he keeps us involved in never ending wars in the Middle East. That's my proof.
You want to say Trump is not as bad a Obama or Bush? agreed. He's still not very good and he's still not nearly as conservative as Amash.
1 point?
What is this thread about?
Amash has started siding with the Demoncrats and their insanity on more and more points, trannies in the military, invaders voting, the ERA and the treasonous coup with no end in sight.
Trump is improving, Amash is decaying rapidly, if he keeps his seat his voting record will start to get much worse.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
A generic statement that you ran with in order to cast Amash in a bad light.
So a top tier conservative voting record along the lines of a B+ or higher is worse than a D?
Amashs' policies are much better than Trumps. Voting against increased spending and voting against involvement in the Middle East are much more important than anything you can bring up that what you think is bad about Amashs voting record.
Trump improving? How by going back on his word? Flip flopping like Romney on steroids? Since when is someone who doesn't have many grounded policies a good thing?
Last edited by tebowlives; 02-21-2020 at 05:37 PM.
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