lolOriginally Posted by jmdrake
I'm sorry but if you live on planet earth and aren't aware that alligators live in Florida, you're a dumbass.
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...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
You might not be aware that there are alligators living in the family friendly park you've been invited too.Seriously your argument is retarded. In the case you cited there was testimony that the woman who had gotten eaten by an alligator knew there was an alligator in the lake she was swimming in and she went swimming anyway. In this case there is no similar testimony. And if Disney had spent as much time and money making sure there were no alligators in the lagoons on their property as they do making sure no guns come on their property, or at least making sure the gators just don't crawl up to the shallows where some kid might be wading, then this incident wouldn't have happened. Yeah MelissaMW posted the cute pic of the gator climbing the fence. Guess what? If someone sees a gator climbing a fence he has time to grab his kid and run the hell away! And how much would adding a picture of a gator to a "no swimming sign" cost? Why wouldn't Disney do that? Neither you nor any of the other Disney defenders want to answer that question. Captain obvious says "Because they didn't want to scare away tourists." So the risk of tourists getting eaten was outweighed by the concern of lost profits from tourists possibly deciding "Hmmmmm....I'll go on rides in the Magic Kingdom by I think we'll stay somewhere else."
Seriously, you made a legal statement that overstated the case (no pun intended) and now you can't admit you're wrong so you are falling back on blaming the victim. Whatever. I hope Disney's lawyers are as ill prepared to defend their client as you are. Then again, Disney will probably settle this. If they tried to fight this case on a "Well the hayseeds from Nebraska got what was coming to them because they should have known their were gators in the pond" argument, even if they won in court (which they wouldn't), the bad publicity from the case would cost them more than simply paying a few million to settle the case and moving on.
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If you see an alligator anywhere, and it's not running at you or leaping out of the water at you, you have time to leave it alone and get away, but you really should not be running. That's a ridiculous idea. You're also discounting the fact that a frustrated animal on your side of the fence is not going to be happy with you. It's a barrier an animal has to negotiate to get away from you, which drives them to do less predictable things.Yeah MelissaMW posted the cute pic of the gator climbing the fence. Guess what? If someone sees a gator climbing a fence he has time to grab his kid and run the hell away!
If the animals were actually allowed to be normal alligators and not hand-fed, you would see almost no attacks. Even the prior one has the earmarks of mistaken identity (a kid near some ducks).
I saw the thread had more posts but figured they were about the bear they were having to euthanize because a marathon runner got mauled.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
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So is "Whitewater Center" non profit liable?
Is "Church of the Messiah" that chartered the trip to Whitewater Center liable?
Maybe we need signs all up and down the river so anyone going rafting realizes they might get eaten by an amoeba.
Should uncle install them? The church? Whitewater Center? Maybe every landowner on riverfront needs them 8' on center?
Do you think more people are aware that man eating alligators live in Florida or man eating amoebas live in South Carolina? Does it even matter?
Who's more dead child eaten by wild gator at Disney or 18 year old eaten by amoeba @ WW Center?
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'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988
Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation
'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3
Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.
...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
Don't know if I qualify as a dumbass or not but I've been to Disney World many times and the gators never even crossed my mind. I never went to the villages with the white sandy beaches but to me it seems like a crazy idea to put inviting beaches on a lake with gators in it. Just sayin'...
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there are coastal rental properties around the globe with beach chairs facing shark infested waters
'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988
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...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
If a sign says "No swimming", stay out of the water. Don't say "Oh, I'll just wade".Is a term I'm familiar with because my little niece (years ago) was hurt on some construction equipment left unattended and unfenced. It was deemed an "attractive hazard" but no judgment was won because it was a township government who was the defendant.
This alligator nightmare at Disney is an attractive hazard if ever there was one. They created well groomed, sandy beaches with chaise lounge chairs, tables, umbrellas and a movie screen on the shore of the habitat of apex predators. People from all over the world go to that overpriced playground and have no idea that all fresh water in Florida has alligators. Disney had " no swimming" signs but no "DANGER ALLIGATORS - STAY AWAY FROM WATER" signs. I'm guessing that's because such warnings might hurt business. The little boy was simply wading (not swimming) with his poor parents unaware of what was in the "Seven Seas Lagoon". Their grief must be unimaginable
This makes me sick that Disney (who I can't stand) lured the unsuspecting to a freaking gator swamp by putting a beach there. These poor people will get HUGE money from Disney but lost their baby in the most awful way and it was completely avoidable. I'm amazed it didn't happen sooner but it was bound to happen.
Unless you want to be attacked by alligators/sharks/jellyfish or flesh eating bacteria (like the fellow in Galveston.
Alligators enter golf courses and swimming pools in their territory. If you're near a body of water in alligator country (Read: all of Florida), assume there's a gator in it unless proven otherwise.
Why would you assume that there were alligators everywhere except Disney?You might not be aware that there are alligators living in the family friendly park you've been invited too.
Seriously, you made a legal statement that overstated the case (no pun intended) and now you can't admit you're wrong so you are falling back on blaming the victim. Whatever. I hope Disney's lawyers are as ill prepared to defend their client as you are. Then again, Disney will probably settle this. If they tried to fight this case on a "Well the hayseeds from Nebraska got what was coming to them because they should have known their were gators in the pond" argument, even if they won in court (which they wouldn't), the bad publicity from the case would cost them more than simply paying a few million to settle the case and moving on.
Why would you risk the life of your child by permitting him/her to wade in water in Florida?
For people living in Florida I'm sure that they are always on guard around water but most of the visitors to Disney are not from Florida. I think the fact that they have now posted gator warnings is clear enough evidence that such was the wise thing to do (and should have been done from the start). In fact knowing about gator hazards it seems almost criminal to make a beautiful white sand beach for people to frolic on. If you know of any other lakes in Florida where they have nice white sandy beaches, please tell us... (I have no idea if such exists)
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Um, a number of them do, or they have jogging paths, or docks, or areas to feed the ducks, or picnic areas right up against the water. They're quite nice during the day and you just keep an eye out. Again, normal alligators are not out to get you. They're out to get their normal food and protect their nests and fight each other for territory.
This same week, several other people have been attacked by native wildlife. Next week, it'll happen again. A few weeks ago, traffic was snarled near here because of a small alligator crossing the road. Up north, it was deer, and further up north it's moose. Out west, I had no expectation that the areas around Vegas resorts would be meticulously cleared of scorpions or snakes. Most of the people in the thread have basically said they didn't think there'd be alligators at Disney, even if there were gators elsewhere. Yep. That's pretty foolish. They can send patrols out all they want, but they'll never be completely rid of alligators (or snakes or snapping turtles or other nasty hazards). They can only mitigate the problem of hand-fed alligators, and alligator breeding grounds they've allowed to fester on their property. And of course they can put up little rope barriers and signs that won't actually stop people from feeding them or going wading, but will only minimize their liability in a lawsuit situation.
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
No gators, poisonous snakes, flesh eating amoebas or other such bull$#@! in a NH lake.
What about brain eating amoebas? $#@! me I'm from here and I had no idea. I'm damn sure a young kid from Ohio wouldn't have any idea. Gonna need some signage here in Nawth Cackalacky...
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...#storylink=cpyRare brain-eating amoeba infection blamed in death of teen who visited Whitewater Center
Local, state and national health officials are investigating Sunday’s death of an 18-year-old Ohio woman who may have contracted an infection from a rare brain-eating amoeba while rafting at the U.S. National Whitewater Center in Charlotte.
On Wednesday, the center remained open under normal operations after extra precautions were taken to ensure the water met quality control standards, whitewater officials said.
Investigators do not know for certain if the victim, Lauren Seitz, contracted the amoeba at the center. But authorities are unaware of any other circumstances that could have led to her getting the infection.
The suspected cause of death is attributed to Primary Amebic Meningoencephalitis (PAM), an infection caused by Naegleria floweri, an amoeba that dwells in warm freshwater lakes and other bodies of water during the summer. People cannot be infected with it by drinking contaminated water, and the one-celled organism is not found in salt water.
But it can be fatal if forced up a person’s nose. () The teen was in a raft with several others that overturned at the whitewater center, health officials said.
The center “is as safe as any body of water,” said Dr. Marcus Plescia, Mecklenburg County Health Department director. “Any time you go into a lake or pond, there are things in the water that can cause illnesses.”
Don't you have spiny armadillos?
Or an AZ lake, FWIW (and I've been to a number of them-yes, there are indeed lakes in the desert). Parks n' Recreations (and regular folks) do a surprisingly good job 'round here. AZDOT rather sucks, and a number of other things, but that's SOP...
I live in North Carolina. We have 5 different poisonous snakes. We have black widows. Despite much time spent in the woods and working in crawlspaces I've never been bit. I grew up in Homestead, Fla. Gators, snakes,spiders and the skunk ape. Never been bit. Meh.
Eh, I survive an ice age every winter, that would have most people whining like a bunch of pussies.I live in North Carolina. We have 5 different poisonous snakes. We have black widows. Despite much time spent in the woods and working in crawlspaces I've never been bit. I grew up in Homestead, Fla. Gators, snakes,spiders and the skunk ape. Never been bit. Meh.
This kills off most of the nasties.
Homestead huh?
What was the name of that outlaw biker bar right south of there, just at the north end of the keys?
I drank in there once or twice, damned if I can remember the name now.
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Wait...wut?
Skunk ape?
Wait...wut?
Skunk ape?
Wait...wut?
Skunk ape?
Swamp Bigfoot with body odor, lol
Lol. Fair enough. I accede. Lived most my life in the south and don't think there is enough layers that I could survive a N.H. winter.
No idea about the biker bar. We moved up to N.C. when I was twelve.
Suz get's the prize. Yup. I was a paranormal explorer at the age of 10. Florida was prime. Bermuda Triangle, Coral Castle, Skunk Ape. There was an encounter just five blocks from my house next to the 7-11. A woman had just made it into a car after getting scared and Skunk Ape shook her car until a homeowner fired off a shot gun. There was an article in the paper. I loved the artists drawing but I lost the clip somewhere along the way. I went out investigating and found big foot prints on the play yard at the middle-school that was less than 100 yrds. away.
And witches. We had a local witch legend that I participated in. Turned out to be a drug dealer and a tape recorder but that is another story.
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My brother is a big foot aficionado.
LMAO, that sound like some jacked $#@! I'd get mixed up in.And witches. We had a local witch legend that I participated in. Turned out to be a drug dealer and a tape recorder but that is another story.
Did he ever see a foot print? I did. No $#@!.
Oh, yeah. If you were in the 'hood I could see you joining me. There was this house on the next block over. It was unkempt. Not terribly so but in our neighborhood in the late '70's it was a slight standout. At least to us kids. No cars during the day. Slight disrepair.LMAO, that sound like some jacked $#@! I'd get mixed up in.
The story was that "witch" lived there. She used to take baths in a claw foot tub in the front yard. And that her tits hung to her knees. But, this was before my time.The legend said that if you went up and rang her doorbell you could hear her witchy voice telling you to "Go away."
Me and another friend took the challenge and went to the door and knocked. We didn't hear $#@!, but, upon returning to friends gave into peer pressure and said "yeah, we heard her."
Year's later a friend sent me a paper clipping. It was a drug house and got busted. The doorbell was wired to a recording that had an old womans voice that said "Go away." Because me and my friend knocked we didn't hear the recording that all the other kids were so scared of.
Whoah. That story gave me the heebie jeebies. Like one of those scary stories around the camp fire. As I read, I was like yeah....yeah....go on, yeah...
There was this house on the next block over. It was unkempt. Not terribly so but in our neighborhood in the late '70's it was a slight standout. At least to us kids. No cars during the day. Slight disrepair.
The story was that "witch" lived there. She used to take baths in a claw foot tub in the front yard. And that her tits hung to her knees. But, this was before my time.
Me and another friend took the challenge and went to the door and knocked. We didn't hear $#@!, but, upon returning to friends gave into peer pressure and said "yeah, we heard her."
Year's later a friend sent me a paper clipping. It was a drug house and got busted. The doorbell was wired to a recording that had an old womans voice that said "Go away." Because me and my friend knocked we didn't hear the recording that all the other kids were so scared of.
And then it was just some stuff about some dope dealers.
I was like...
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The Jersey Devil...
I've read about creature. Tom Brown Jr. NOT a Bigfoot.
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Oh yeah NH is a paradise.
New Hampshire is famous for its moose, but having these massive mammals in abundance can also lead to dangerous and costly moose-vehicle collisions. Each year, there are roughly 250 moose-related accidents in the Granite State, many resulting in injuries or death to drivers and passengers.And yeah, the winters cause problems. It's not about being a wuss, it's about feeling every break, dislocation, sprain, burn, and tear all for the joy of staring out at a picture postcard before having to dig your way to civilizationA rabid fox’s attack on a 5-year-old girl in Derry and the mauling of a small dog in Hampstead on Monday are prompting animal control and wildlife officials to warn the public about aggressive wildlife.
The beginning of spring means coyotes, foxes and bobcats are out looking for food for their offspring, according to Rob Calvert, a wildlife biologist with the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department.
“People are starting to see them during the day, which is not unusual this time of year,” he said. “They have hungry mouths to feed.”
...
Since January, Calbert said his department has received reports of 28 coyote sightings, 22 fox sightings and 10 bobcat sightings.
Point being:
Yesterday I wrote about which animals are most likely to kill you this summer -- bees, farm animals and dogs, mostly. Which raises the question: is any place truly safe from the threat of bloodthirsty beasts?
Short answer: yes, everywhere actually, because statistically speaking your chances of getting killed by an animal are basically zero.
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