Donald Trump accuses media of not reporting terrorist attacks

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index..._media_of.html

We need more terror stories!

TAMPA, Florida -- Donald Trump continued his assault on media coverage Monday, accusing news agencies of intentionally not reporting terrorist attacks.

Trump made the claim while speaking to the U.S. Central Command at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, according to multiple reports. The president offered no specifics on what attacks were not reported.

"All over Europe, it's happening. It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported," Trump said, according to Reuters. "And, in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it. They have their reasons and you understand that."

The White House issued a list Monday evening of 78 attacks it says were inspired or carried out by ISIS, the Associated Press reports. The list includes the truck attack in Nice, France, which received worldwide coverage, and attacks in which there were no fatalities.

The AP was unable to confirm if every attack on the list was associated with ISIS. The knife attack at Ohio State University in November and a machete attack at a Columbus restaurant are on the list, nbc4i.com reports.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Trump actually meant that attacks don't receive enough coverage, the AP reports.

"He felt that members of media don't always cover some of those events to the extent that other events might get covered," Spicer said. "Like a protest gets blown out of the water, and yet an attack or a foiled attack doesn't necessarily get the same coverage."

Politifact.com reviewed Trump's claim and noted that terrorist attacks occur everyday around the world. Benjamin H. Friedman, a research fellow in security studies at the libertarian Cato Institute, tells Politifact that attacks in the West receive far more coverage than those in other parts of the world.

Recent attacks on U.S. soil received extensive coverage, including in San Bernandino, Calif., Orlando, Fla., and at Ohio State University.

Ted Bromund, a foreign policy specialist with the conservative Heritage Foundation, tells Politifact that there is evidence that the nature of some attacks has been downplayed. He said some politicians have been hesitant to blame some attacks on radical Islamists.

Still, Politifact rated Trump's statement "Pants on Fire."

[robert68]

And ESPN doesn't cover touchdowns, dunks, and home runs. The alternate reality.

[Zippyjuan]

It is Trump's World. We are just visiting it.

[CPUd]

Was the Bowling Green Massacre on the list?

[juleswin]

Was the Bowling Green Massacre on the list?

Nah, the missiles the terrorists got was a dummy missiles from military surplus store

[Brian4Liberty]

The AP was unable to confirm if every attack on the list was associated with ISIS. The knife attack at Ohio State University in November and a machete attack at a Columbus restaurant are on the list, nbc4i.com reports.

Ohio State was clearly ISIS inspired.

But hey, fake news loves to rewrite history, especially when people don't remember.

[CPUd]

[eleganz]

And what did the MSM do next? Start covering terror attacks.

Hate him or love him, Trump is trolling the MSM.

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...er-terror-list

Murdered backpacker's mother criticises Trump over 'terror' list

The mother of a murdered British backpacker has accused Donald Trump of using “fake news” about her daughter’s death to further the “persecution of innocent people” by falsely claiming she was the victim of a terrorist attack.

Mia Ayliffe-Chung, 21, and Tom Jackson, 30, were killed in a knife attack at a hostel in Queensland, Australia, last August. Smail Ayad, 29, from France, has been charged with their murder.

On Monday the White House released a list of 78 attacks that it described as “executed or inspired by” Islamic State to support a claim by Trump that the media has been under-reporting terrorist atrocities.

The list, which was designed to bolster the case for Trump’s ban on travellers from seven Muslim-majority countries, included the killings of Ayliffe-Chung and Jackson.

“My daughter’s death will not be used to further this insane persecution of innocent people,” she wrote.

The full list of Trump's 'under-reported' terror attacks – and how they were reported

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-were-reported

[Brian4Liberty]

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/07/murdered-backpackers-mother-criticises-trump-over-terror-list[/url

The full list of Trump's 'under-reported' terror attacks – and how they were reported

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-were-reported

Right. Nothing to see here, move along...

French backpacker shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ during fatal Home Hill stabbing

[klamath]

Right. Nothing to see here, move along...

French backpacker shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ during fatal Home Hill stabbing

Sounding more like a rebuffed lover rage to me. I also notice he came from countries not listed in the travel ban... Looks like we should ban travel to france. He was singing the French national anthem!

[PierzStyx]

Right. Nothing to see here, move along...

French backpacker shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ during fatal Home Hill stabbing

Thank you for a great example of twisting sources to fit your biases. Your whole insinuation is lie. Quoting your own source:

The Townsville Bulletinunderstands Ayad had “fawned over” Ms Ayliffe-Chung for several days, telling other backpackers the pair were deeply in love and married. The Bulletin reports he became enraged on Tuesday night after hearing the British backpacker had posed for revealing photos in a magazine and didn’t reciprocate his feelings.

This was a crime of obsession and passion, not a terrorist attack. Oh, and by the way, you forgot to mention how he ALSO was singing the French national anthem when stabbing her.

Up to 30 witnesses — many of them terrified backpackers — at the north Queensland hostel watched as Ayad burst in singing the French *national *anthem and crying “God is great” in Arabic during the frenzied attack, The Australian reports

These was not anti-French Islamic terrorism. Last time I checked Middle Eastern terrorists didn't sing the national anthem of Western countries while killing people.

You're full of bullcrap and so is Donald Trump.

[nikcers]

..twisting sources to fit your biases. ..

That's the point of this headline, symptoms are people are uninformed, or less informed then they should be on this issue- he blames the root of the problem lack of information, but I would say that its probably more people reading the wrong information and only trusting their intellectual sources over alternative sources or people not reading the news at all.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I am giving this thread one star and a neg rep. ZippyJuan is clearly not interested in having a discussion. He is not interested in learning anything on this forum. He does not post anything in support of liberty. His purpose in posting is to be contrary and disruptive. He has been doing this for 9 years.

[CPUd]

[klamath]

I also find it funny in a thread about the media NOT reporting terror attacks people supporting Trump, post a NEWS article about the terrorist attack!!!!

[Brian4Liberty]

Sounding more like a rebuffed lover rage to me. I also notice he came from countries not listed in the travel ban... Looks like we should ban travel to france. He was singing the French national anthem!

Actually, he pretty much sounds crazy, as rebuffed lovers generally don't go on killing sprees. Similar to the Miami nightclub shooter. Rebuffed, crazy, but additionally they have the religious angle going. Can't ignore the "Allahu Akbar" part. It's a combination, and hard to say what the primary factor was.

He was doing drugs too. Which prescriptions was he on or recently off?

[Brian4Liberty]

Thank you for a great example of twisting sources to fit your biases. Your whole insinuation is lie. Quoting your own source:

This was a crime of obsession and passion, not a terrorist attack. Oh, and by the way, you forgot to mention how he ALSO was singing the French national anthem when stabbing her.

These was not anti-French Islamic terrorism. Last time I checked Middle Eastern terrorists didn't sing the national anthem of Western countries while killing people.

Congratulations. You can read.

[klamath]

Actually, he pretty much sounds crazy, as rebuffed lovers generally don't go on killing sprees. Similar to the Miami nightclub shooter. Rebuffed, crazy, but additionally they have the religious angle going. Can't ignore the "Allahu Akbar" part. It's a combination, and hard to say what the primary factor was.

He was doing drugs too. Which prescriptions was he on or recently off?

I think you better recheck the stats on how many people die because of rebuffed love but yes he sounded crazy. But the point is it WAS reported including the alleged "Allahu Akbar" It is a trump lie.

[Brian4Liberty]

I also find it funny in a thread about the media NOT reporting terror attacks people supporting Trump, post a NEWS article about the terrorist attack!!!!

Strawman? Who is "supporting Trump" about the news not covering terrorism attacks? Obviously the news covered the attacks (initially) if we know about them.

I am pointing out that there are Islamic indications in Zippy's examples.

[Madison320]

I am giving this thread one star and a neg rep. ZippyJuan is clearly not interested in having a discussion. He is not interested in learning anything on this forum. He does not post anything in support of liberty. His purpose in posting is to be contrary and disruptive. He has been doing this for 9 years.

I think you have Zippy wrong. He's not anti-liberty, he's pro-democratic party, anti-republican party. Of course since the democratic party tends to be anti-liberty, Zippy tends to support anti-liberty positions. But in rare cases where the democratic party supports liberty, then obviously Zippy by default supports liberty.

[dean.engelhardt]

News is run by ratings, which produce revenue from commercials. If a 24 hour terror news network could get better rating then the regular news, it would change overnight.

New is a product of the free market, not politics. God help us if that changes.

[nikcers]

I think you have Zippy wrong. He's not anti-liberty, he's pro-democratic party, anti-republican party. Of course since the democratic party tends to be anti-liberty, Zippy tends to support anti-liberty positions. But in rare cases where the democratic party supports liberty, then obviously Zippy by default supports liberty.

at least zippy isn't an interventionist. The interventionist party is mutli national and bi partisan

"I think that the most important thing at the moment is that countries like the United States, which will take the lead, Israel and the United Kingdom line up together against Iran's aggression and set clear limits to it. This will be the first issue, among many, that I will discuss with UK Prime Minister Theresa May and, of course, with Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson," Netanyahu said ahead of the flight
Poland says EU must NO LONGER be ruled by Merkel as leader says Trump is RIGHT on Germany

Looks like Poland and Germany might join the interventionist party soon.

[PierzStyx]

Congratulations. You can read.

But apparently you can't? or didn't want to until you got confronted about it? Sounds lime more pro-Trump anti-immigration propaganda to me.

[Ender]

at least zippy isn't an interventionist. The interventionist party is mutli national and bi partisan

And, at least he doesn't call people names and purposely insult them.


*(Not saying you do.)

[Brian4Liberty]

But apparently you can't? or didn't want to until you got confronted about it? Sounds lime more pro-Trump anti-immigration propaganda to me.

- Zippy is giving examples of attacks that are supposedly not terrorist attacks. His quotes leave out details such as shouts of "Allahu Akbar". In case you missed it, Zippy is our resident expert in selective and inapplicable "facts". Apparently since Zippy is supporting your positions, you agree with that type of "reporting".

- I am giving the details that are missing on these incidents, such as the shouts of "Allahu Akbar". This aspect of the stories is not irrelevant. The real world is not black and white. Terrorists and mass killers usually have a combination of mental problems, drugs and some ideology that motivates them. The Orlando nightclub killer had rejection problems in his sex life, but he was also inspired by Islamic (Salafi) extremism. You can't just say "he did it because he was frustrated and guilty about his sex life".

[klamath]

- Zippy is giving examples of attacks that are supposedly not terrorist attacks. His quotes leave out details such as shouts of "Allahu Akbar". In case you missed it, Zippy is our resident expert in selective and inapplicable "facts". Apparently since Zippy is supporting your positions, you agree with that type of "reporting".

- I am giving the details that are missing on these incidents, such as the shouts of "Allahu Akbar". This aspect of the stories is not irrelevant. The real world is not black and white. Terrorists and mass killers usually have a combination of mental problems, drugs and some ideology that motivates them. The Miami nightclub killer had rejection problems in his sex life, but he was also inspired by Islamic (Salafi) extremism. You can't just say "he did it because he was frustrated and guilty about his sex life".

And bending over backwards to try and defend Trumps stupid off the cuff statement that the media isn't reporting terror attacks will sure to come back and bit us when the left uses this tactic to make an executive order on gun control far beyond what Obama did. The effort should be to remove presidential powers NOT increase them for the latest scare of the week. Trump is building tools that will be used to bludgeon the hell out anyone on the right still sticking by the principles of freedom in the future.
There is nothing the government can do to stop a determined individual terrorist attack. Trump is just taunting the radicals into proving how easy it will be. The guy Trump missed in Yemen is already taunting trump. Trump will respond like his does and impose a huge executive order cracking down on civil rights when they do attack and it won't do a damned bit of good just like gun control won't.

[robert68]

And bending over backwards to try and defend Trumps stupid off the cuff statement that the media isn't reporting terror attacks will sure to come back and bit us when the left uses this tactic to make an executive order on gun control far beyond what Obama did. The effort should be to remove presidential powers NOT increase them for the latest scare of the week. Trump is building tools that will be used to bludgeon the hell out anyone on the right still sticking by the principles of freedom in the future.
There is nothing the government can do to stop a determined individual terrorist attack. Trump is just taunting the radicals into proving how easy it will be. The guy Trump missed in Yemen is already taunting trump. Trump will respond like his does and impose a huge executive order cracking down on civil rights when they do attack and it won't do a damned bit of good just like gun control won't.

He'll leave the door open for them with the light on if necessary.

[Brian4Liberty]

And bending over backwards to try and defend Trumps stupid off the cuff statement that the media isn't reporting terror attacks will sure to come back and bit us when the left uses this tactic to make an executive order on gun control far beyond what Obama did. The effort should be to remove presidential powers NOT increase them for the latest scare of the week. Trump is building tools that will be used to bludgeon the hell out anyone on the right still sticking by the principles of freedom in the future.
There is nothing the government can do to stop a determined individual terrorist attack. Trump is just taunting the radicals into proving how easy it will be. The guy Trump missed in Yemen is already taunting trump. Trump will respond like his does and impose a huge executive order cracking down on civil rights when they do attack and it won't do a damned bit of good just like gun control won't.

If anything has come out of this election cycle, it's that the media is beyond biased. If you want to make this a case of the media is honest, truthful and unbiased, then you may have problems convincing people.

Now if you want to make this an issue of the war on terror, and what steps are taken, then it is prudent for everyone to be vigilant on what actual actions might be proposed or taken. That is important.

And if you want to run around in circles screaming "the sky is falling because Trump", it is being sufficiently covered by the mainstream media. No worries about them skimping on that coverage.

[Ender]

If anything has come out of this election cycle, it's that the media is beyond biased. If you want to make this a case of the media is honest, truthful and unbiased, then you may have problems convincing people.

Now if you want to make this an issue of the war on terror, and what steps are taken, then it is prudent for everyone to be vigilant on what actual actions might be proposed or taken. That is important.

And if you want to run around in circles screaming "the sky is falling because Trump", it is being sufficiently covered by the mainstream media. No worries about them skimping on that coverage.

How about getting rid of the WoT and minding our own business?