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Elon Musk Says With Twitter Purchase He Has Too Much On His Plate
https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...-on-his-plate/
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
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"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Elon should just tank the whole company and let it go bankrupt. The world will be a much better place without Twitter.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
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Musk Locks Down Twitter Offices To Prevent Sabotage
https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...vent-sabotage/
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Last edited by ClaytonB; 11-19-2022 at 12:46 PM.
Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28
Twitter is censoring more under Musk than pre-Musk.
https://dnyuz.com/2022/11/18/i-was-t...-become-of-it/
So much for free speech, just another elitist scam on the people sold to the people by the fake news media.In response, Mr. Musk empowered my team to move more aggressively to remove hate speech across the platform — censoring more content, not less. Our actions worked: Before my departure, I*shared data*about Twitter’s enforcement of hateful conduct showing that, by some measures, Twitter was actually safer under Mr. Musk than it had been before.
Does Twitter even offer a pension? Were all these perks lost listed in this thread in lieu of a pension or lower salary. I would be pissed to if the job was sold to me with all these perks and then they are all eliminated. Paying for employees lunch was a nice perk and they can afford it. Barely a drop in the bucket.
Musk's behavior with Twitter is setting the wrong precedent and it is going to spread. You will start to see perks eliminated elsewhere because now it is made popular by an elite promoted by the fake news media.
This is just like allot of the crap Mark Zdoucheaberg came up with like open offices which makes it difficult to get work done with all the noise. That idea spread across the country, not just tech.
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* Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.
What is with you always believing fake news? It isn't being removed from the platform. People aren't being banned. The specific tweets are just shadow banned. Freedom of speech, not freedom of reach. Seems pretty reasonable as long as it isn't being targeted for political reasons.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I find it humorous that people making $100K+ are whining about FREE LUNCH.
Fire the entitled lot of them,,some Gamer kids would love the job at half the pay.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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Looks like he's leaving it up to a poll:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985
So now Musk is having majority votes on whether others should have the freedom to listen to whom they want to, without feed manipulation, shadow bans and other deceptions.
Majority rules. It sounds like something right out of atlas shrugged, right before Galt left the motor company.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
He's just trying to get users by drama.
My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.
-GLP poster
You should have posted your -rep comment here, so I can respond.
Elon later tweeted that the user wouldn't be shadow banned, just the post.
If somebody is making certain derogatory posts, or posting pornography then I don't see a huge problem with that. If they are shadow banning posts that question the vaccine, for example, that is a problem. However in theory those should be handled with community notes, not shadow banning. That's a good system if we can also effectively fact check the left's nonsense and lies.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Yeah, so? I follow a user to read his posts. The user allows me to follow him so he can send me his posts. Elon bans it so unless I specifically go to the post - if I know it's direct link, I don't even see it - even though I'm following him to see all his posts.
This is completely immoral and evil, just like the quote the will of the majority should decide what everyone sees. Actually, I think the latin may be worse - "the will of the majority is god". It's the very same crap as before and the very worst of why people don't like twitter. Banning someone is direct and public, this is sneaky backstabbing stuff. A fake communication system with the users constantly being manipulated in what they are actually seeing.
I didn't post it publicly because I didn't want to seem to be calling you immoral, but yes, trying to hide information from me you don't want me to see is not even a free speech issue. it's mass deception of the readers and their choice to read.
Now, I'm going to put you on ignore. I've no tolerance for the shadow ban tactic. If you don't want to see something, don't read it or ignore the person. Trying to control what other people decide to read themselves is wrong. It would not be moral of me to make sure no one else can read your posts. I'm only choosing to ignore you for myself.
Last edited by SpiritOf1776_J4; 11-19-2022 at 04:41 AM.
A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
- Edward R. Murrow
...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.
How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
You would think the leftists would support the decision to quit buying lunches that go to waste , isnt wasting food and FRN's not being green ?
Do something Danke
Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28
How did the Japanese Shiba Inu become a meme dog?
My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.
-GLP poster
Is that how knit hat boy, that deviant Rogan or your boy Trump are selling it these days? So if someone says something that does not fit the current news cycle narrative that we are supposed to lap up and echo back to everyone here, then I am believing "fake news" and should be shadow banned? I guess I should I go back and watch your dopey shows ot watch a Trump rally before posting here so I can get the elites curated talking points in order to respout here. LOL.
* See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
* Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.
I don't know the full details, but I think you would still see the post on your feed if you followed them, it just wouldn't get boosted to other people's feeds. For example, when you are on your feed and you see a post that says "Elon Musk follows this person" and it gets boosted to your feed. But we will see.
What if the content that is shadow banned is the same type of content that would be deleted with a temp or perma ban on this site?
Again the main point is that these posts aren't shadow banned due to politics, but derogatory speech (i.e. calling someone the 'n' word or using it in a derogatory way) or pornography or something. I wouldn't agree with shadow banning any political speech.
It also wouldn't be monetized, no ads appear.
If you want twitter to remain profitable and still allow all forms of political speech, there's going to have to be some mechanism to make advertisers comfortable with putting ads on the site.
Instead of getting mad at me, maybe try brainstorming a better way? I could easily jump on board.
This is similar to an idea Tim Pool had with how to deal with tweets that are legitimately against certain policies. Leave them up, just don't advertise them.
Last edited by dannno; 11-19-2022 at 02:03 PM.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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