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"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
It wasn't "accidentally" released. This is done with PURPOSE AND INTENT. It has all the classic markings of the Hegalian Dialectic written all over it.
Problem Reaction Solution
They WANT people to protest so they can use the IMAGE of the protest as a reason to SHUT DOWN FREE SPEECH. Just watch. They will fault FREE SPEECH as the CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. They are trying to instigate VIOLENCE. The more violent people become, the better for them. They will claim that the "Problem" comes from "violent conservatives" protesting a "legitimate Supreme Court ruling".
It is the LEFTISTS that are already KNOWN TO BE VIOLENT. When they do protest violently, then they BLAME CONSERVATIVES for instigating the "justified extreme reactions" of the LEFT.
They will BLAME CONSERVATIVES, but their real target is EVERYONE.
1776 > 1984
The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.
The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide
Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled
It's hilarious watching these people chant my body my choice when they want to cut people out of society for not wanting to take an unsafe and ineffective experimental vaccine.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
First of all, since when do they have to "use" something from the Constitution? Where have you been for the past century that you think they need to do that?
Second, yes, this would be just as easily covered by the prevailing legal force of the Commerce clause as any number of other existing laws. Federal abortion legislation (of which much already exists) wouldn't stretch the Commerce clause any more than countless laws already do. If they didn't "break it and your house of cards" (not sure what that even means), then neither would making either the essential principles of Roe and Casey federal law via legislation, nor would federal restrictions of abortion.
Ron PaulThere is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)
They're already on it ...
https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/st...99340169560065
... and the sniping and backbiting has already begun ...
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1521530328397099008
Last edited by Occam's Banana; 05-03-2022 at 01:29 PM.
I'm not sure what that means. Why would I think you are arguing against me?
Ending the filibuster is definitely on their agenda.
Those tweets I posted from AOC and John Fetterman (Lt. Gov. of Pennsylvania & 2022 US Senate candidate) confirm that.
And Ed Markey (US Senator for Massachusetts) has confirmed their court-packing ambitions:
I don't know whether this is just "seize the moment" gamesmanship or the leak was planned or intended to set all this up. I'm not sure it really matters. In either case, they'll certainly exploit the opportunity to the fullest.
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
Roe v Wade has been effectively nullified for years (2018) already, thanks to the Murphy/NJ vs. NCAA ruling, which legalized sports betting outside of a handful of states.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ports-gambling
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
This is why I occasionally take a look at the MSMBS propaganda reel:
Let's unpack it. "November Is Coming", meaning, "When the election comes, the party that was responsible for de-federalizing abortion is going to get slaughtered at the polls." Here are some of the hidden assumptions:
1) Abortion is popular. This is not true and it is a heavily distorted "factoid". The "popularity" of abortion does not have to do with the procedure itself but, rather, with the feeling of sympathy that many have for those who are caught in some kind of tragic life-circumstance that will be compounded by a birth. That could be rape, incest or even an unintended pregnancy in an otherwise ordinary situation. Being poor is bad enough but bringing a child to life in a situation of poverty (which may be completely out of your control) could feel like cruelty. Anyone with a functioning empathy muscle can resonate with the sentiments underlying these arguments for abortion (and there are many more besides). Rationally, they are fallacious arguments, but they are designed to tug on the heart-strings. The mistake, here, is confusing polls that ask "should abortion be permitted (at all, under any circumstance)" with asking whether abortion should be treated as a routine procedure or even as some kind of "right". These are two very different monsters and de-federalization, if it happens, would simply return the complexity of that problem back to the individual States.
2) De-federalization will cause many women who want to get an abortion to be unable to. In fact, a post-Roe US will not be a nation where you can't get an abortion. California and other frostbitten-blue states are not going to thaw any time soon. Round-trip plane tickets from/to most parts of the US are still under $1,000 last I checked. So, what we're really arguing about is $1,000.
3) The mid-terms were a dead-heat, but now that us Democrats are pulling this stunt to try to blame Republicans for the end of Roe, public opinion is going to sway to the left as angry Americans realize that the conservatives have gotten out-of-control and need to be put in check. Once again, this is a false perception. Like many of the Left's political strategies in the last decade, it's a paper-tiger... it's only true if you believe it. The Left is becoming increasingly desperate and demonstrative, like a mental patient whose tantrums are no longer being believed by the other patients. Instead of reacting with the "sympathy" that we're "supposed to" have as they writhe on the ground foaming at the mouth, we're just stepping over them, taking care not to tip our lunch trays lest our peas get mixed in with our mashed-potatoes. Welcome to the Hotel California.
4) Elections are primarily about machinations and they have the well-oiled machine. While this has likely been true at the Federal level for a long time (especially the Prez election), the fact is that most elections are local and the outcomes represent that fact. No matter how much the MAGA/Trumpers believe that the 2020 election was stolen, the fact remains that there are many deep-red counties all around the US, something that could not happen if the national fraud had fully penetrated to all local elections. Instead, it appears that the fraud hinges on reducing the national race to key precincts in key counties of key states. By laser-focusing the corruption in this way, the corrupt Deep State is able to amplify a tiny number of horrifically corrupt local polities with consequences at the national level. So, no, despite the frauds and machinations of the past, we don't fear November.
Last edited by ClaytonB; 05-03-2022 at 05:39 PM.
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Congress can't codify Roe v Wade as it would be a gross violation of the 10th Amendment, especially given the Murphy vs NCAA ruling I referenced earlier in the thread. SCOTUS' original Roe ruling was contrary to the 10th and they knew it but didn't care at that time, for whatever reason. If Congress attempted to codify Roe v Wade, and if this ruling is issued substantially the same as the draft, SCOTUS would just strike down the federal codification of Roe.
I know there's lots of people who would respond that SCOTUS pretty much ignores the Constitution already, but from what I've seen, outside of a handful of limited scope rulings, they actually do follow the Constitution way more than most people realize. They may not directly reference the Constitution in rulings but their rulings usually follow it (see: OSHA vax mandate which violated the 10th, even though SCOTUS never mentioned the 10th). The problem is that most people have no clue about legal issues and the reality of the legal framework we currently live under.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
"I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
-Stannis Baratheon
Last edited by Occam's Banana; 05-03-2022 at 11:03 PM.
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