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    Man whose WMD lies led to 100,000 deaths confesses all

    Man whose WMD lies led to 100,000 deaths confesses all

    Johnathan Owen
    The Independent
    April 1, 2012

    A man whose lies helped to make the case for invading Iraq – starting a nine-year war costing more than 100,000 lives and hundreds of billions of pounds – will come clean in his first British television interview tomorrow.


    “Curveball”, the Iraqi defector who fabricated claims about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, smiles as he confirms how he made the whole thing up. It was a confidence trick that changed the course of history, with Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi’s lies used to justify the Iraq war.

    He tries to defend his actions: “My main purpose was to topple the tyrant in Iraq because the longer this dictator remains in power, the more the Iraqi people will suffer from this regime’s oppression.”

    The chemical engineer claimed to have overseen the building of a mobile biological laboratory when he sought political asylum in Germany in 1999. His lies were presented as “facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence” by Colin Powell, US Secretary of State, when making the case for war at the UN Security Council in February 2003.

    But Mr Janabi, speaking in a two-part series, Modern Spies, starting tomorrow on BBC2, says none of it was true. When it is put to him “we went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie”, he simply replies: “Yes.”


    rest of article here:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...l-7606236.html
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    How much was he compensated for his lies?

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    "Ripping babies from incubators in Kuwait".

    Lies of justification of the first Iraq war.

    The bull$#@! out of DC piles up so fast, you need $#@!ing wings to stay above it.

    And yet I get looked at cross eyed every time I mention a "conspiracy theory".

    $#@!...if the DC government told me the sky was blue and the sun rose in the east, I'd argue with them.

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    I would call for this guy to be tried for crimes against humanity and put to death, but I know he's just a scapegoat. Those who wanted this war would have just found someone else to make up the same or a slightly different lie...

    Still, I don't know how this guy can live with himself.

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    WTF? Everytime I go to link it becomes unresponsive?

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    The people we pay to represent our interests fell for this BS.

    When an employee fails to perform...........

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    Flashback:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And yet I get looked at cross eyed every time I mention a "conspiracy theory".
    Umm, no, that is not the reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    And yet I get looked at cross eyed every time I mention a "conspiracy theory".

    $#@!...if the DC government told me the sky was blue and the sun rose in the east, I'd argue with them.
    There fixed it for you.?

    Now watch for that knowing smile.

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    No wonder he was called dooshbag.




    May God have mercy on people who opposed Iraq WMD conspiracy theory and campaigned for a deadly invasion based on lies, greed, revenge, racism.

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    Charity begins at home, I don't think our biggest concern will be foreign puppet scapegoats which are very likely purchased tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    $#@!...if the DC government told me the sky was blue and the sun rose in the east, I'd argue with them.
    The DC government would not say that, because it is true. But Ron would be all alone on the floor of congress trying to tell them, while the MSM would say he is crazy.
    Last edited by ClydeCoulter; 04-01-2012 at 07:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Umm, no, that is not the reason.
    No, that's a different look.

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    Man (name is Curveball) Whose WMD Lies Led to Iraq War Confesses

    Man whose WMD lies led to 100,000 deaths confesses all
    Defector tells how US officials 'sexed up' his fictions to make the case for 2003 invasion


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...l-7606236.html



    A man whose lies helped to make the case for invading Iraq – starting a nine-year war costing more than 100,000 lives and hundreds of billions of pounds – will come clean in his first British television interview tomorrow.

    "Curveball", the Iraqi defector who fabricated claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, smiles as he confirms how he made the whole thing up. It was a confidence trick that changed the course of history, with Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi's lies used to justify the Iraq war.

    He tries to defend his actions: "My main purpose was to topple the tyrant in Iraq because the longer this dictator remains in power, the more the Iraqi people will suffer from this regime's oppression."

    The chemical engineer claimed to have overseen the building of a mobile biological laboratory when he sought political asylum in Germany in 1999. His lies were presented as "facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence" by Colin Powell, US Secretary of State, when making the case for war at the UN Security Council in February 2003.

    But Mr Janabi, speaking in a two-part series, Modern Spies, starting tomorrow on BBC2, says none of it was true. When it is put to him "we went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie", he simply replies: "Yes."

    US officials "sexed up" Mr Janabi's drawings of mobile biological weapons labs to make them more presentable, admits Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, General Powell's former chief of staff. "I brought the White House team in to do the graphics," he says, adding how "intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy".

    As for his former boss: "I don't see any way on this earth that Secretary Powell doesn't feel almost a rage about Curveball and the way he was used in regards to that intelligence."

    Another revelation in the series is the real reason why the FBI swooped on Russian spy Anna Chapman in 2010. Top officials feared the glamorous Russian agent wanted to seduce one of US President Barack Obama's inner circle. Frank Figliuzzi, the FBI's head of counterintelligence, reveals how she got "closer and closer to higher and higher ranking leadership... she got close enough to disturb us".

    The fear that Chapman would compromise a senior US official in a "honey trap" was a key reason for the arrest and deportation of the Russian spy ring of 10 people, of which she was a part, in 2010. "We were becoming very concerned," he says. "They were getting close enough to a sitting US cabinet member that we thought we could no longer allow this to continue." Mr Figliuzzi refuses to name the individual who was being targeted.

    Several British spies also feature in the programme, in the first time that serving intelligence officers have been interviewed on television. In contrast to the US intelligence figures, the British spies are cloaked in darkness, their voices dubbed by actors. BBC veteran reporter Peter Taylor, who worked for a year putting the documentary together, describes them as "ordinary people who are committed to what they do" and "a million miles" from the spies depicted in film. He adds: "What surprised me was the extent to which they work within a civil service bureaucracy. Everything has to be signed off... you've got to have authorisation signed in triplicate."

    Would-be agents should abandon any Hollywood fantasies they may have, says Sonya Holt at the CIA recruitment centre. "They think it's more like the movies, that they are going to be jumping out of cars and that everyone carries a weapon... Yes we're collecting intelligence but we don't all drive fast cars. You're going to be writing reports; you're in meetings so it's not always that glamorous image of what you see in the movies."

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    But the government would never stage something like 9/11....
    Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. -James Madison

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    But the government would never stage something like 9/11....
    Oh of course not...
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    The Bush administration laid blame on the CIA, criticizing its officials for "failing to investigate" doubts about Curveball, which emerged after an October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate. In May 2004, over a year after the invasion of Iraq, the CIA concluded formally that Curveball's information was fabricated. Furthermore, on June 26, 2006, The Washington Post reported that "the CIA acknowledged that Curveball was a con artist who drove a taxi in Iraq and spun his engineering knowledge into a fantastic but plausible tale about secret bioweapons factories on wheels."[16]

    On April 8, 2005, CIA Director Porter Goss ordered an internal review of the CIA in order to determine why doubts about Curveball's reliability were not forwarded to policy makers. Former CIA Director George Tenet and his former deputy, John E. McLaughlin, announced that they were not aware of doubts about Curveball's veracity before the war. [B]However, Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA's European division, told the Los Angeles Times that "everyone in the chain of command knew exactly what was happening."[/B]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)



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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    But the government would never stage something like 9/11....
    Nein! Nein! Nein! I detect sarcasm. Reported. You will need to have your mail forwarded to FEMA Camp number 31 where you will be given drugs and therapy in the hopes of curing your mental illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    "Ripping babies from incubators in Kuwait".

    Lies of justification of the first Iraq war.

    The bull$#@! out of DC piles up so fast, you need $#@!ing wings to stay above it.

    And yet I get looked at cross eyed every time I mention a "conspiracy theory".

    $#@!...if the DC government told me the sky was blue and the sun rose in the east, I'd argue with them.
    And the latest lie? Joseph Koney is still a force to be reckoned with in Uganda.

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