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    What Has Trump Actually Said That is Antisemitic?

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    By TreeOfLiberty

    Even casual observers with no particularly strong feelings for or against Trump must marvel at the range of evil he is now responsible for. Following the Pittsburgh synagogue bombing, the headlines are it is Trump's latent antisemitism which is partly responsible. In addition to an Islamophobe which is fairly well documented, Trump is now a white nationalist, a racist, and now an antisemite, according to the mainstream media.

    So what are the antisemitic things Trump has said that makes him one? Well, it turns out, he hasn't said anything like that, but, well, almost. If you count bloopers by his former press secretary Sean Spicer, and his supposed refusal to denounce racists and white supremacists, even though he did, but not fast enough. After the Charlotte, NC tragedy in which a protester was killed, NBC News reported in its headline: "Trump denounces white supremacists, 'racist' violence — two days after deadly car attack." The racists and white supremacists in Charlotte were also antisemites, the real kind.

    A comprehensive run-down of what makes Trump an antisemite can be found in "Trump has a long history of anti-Semitic dog whistles" published in Salon.com. As the title suggests, if one cannot find anything that Trump has said which is actually antisemitic, then the using "dog whistles" innuendo will suffice. The Salon.com piece can be taken as the worst that legions of journalists can find, because if there were anything worse on the record, you bet we'd be hearing about it.

    The damning list starts off with Trump retweeting, during the campaign, an image of Hillary awash in campaign money, with the caption in the middle of a six-pointed star, the shape of the Star of David. Trump quickly deleted the tweet and said it was a "sheriff's star."

    But the best part of the new litmus test for what constitutes antisemitism is the Big Bank test. Do you criticize big banks and their role in the economy? Trump's "long history" of antsemitism included saying in a speech:

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    "It's a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful large corporations and political entities. Just look at what this corrupt establishment has done to our cities like Detroit, Flint, Michigan, and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and all across our country...

    We've seen this first hand in the Wikileaks documents, in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks, to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global interest powers, her special interest friends, and her donors."


    That's it. That's all it takes to make you a hard-core, dog whistle antisemite in America these days. The author warns "Trump's use of global conspiracy tropes came very close to echoing racist myths about Jewish people." This is "vague and ominous rhetoric to describe nefarious "banks" trying to undermine the working class."

    The trouble is, Hillary did meet in secret with international bankers, and trade agreements from NAFTA on down do undermine US sovereignty, by allowing corporations to circumvent US laws by submitting lawsuits to international trade courts more friendly to their interests.

    Furthermore, none other than Bernie Sanders early on in his campaign declared war on big banks, as well as global trade agreements. Sanders said:

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    “Let’s be clear: the TPP [Trans Pacific Partnership} is much more than a “free trade” agreement. It is part of a global race to the bottom to boost the profits of large corporations and Wall Street by outsourcing jobs; undercutting worker rights; dismantling labor, environmental, health, food safety and financial laws; and allowing corporations to challenge our laws in international tribunals rather than our own court system.”


    So the next time you use the words "global power structure" and speak of the effects of trade agreements extracted by such an entity on American workers, you are using a "global conspiracy trope." Just remember: there is no global conspiracy by elites against the working man or woman, whose jobs move from country to country and land wherever pay is the lowest and conditions the harshest. Big bankers are your friends, not your enemies. Otherwise, you are antisemitic.




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    It is actually antisemitic to claim that attacks on globalism etc. are antisemitic because that would imply that only Jews could be capable of such conspiracies but those making the claim are guilty of the charges and are trying to hide behind their innocent brethren in the hope that they can either suppress the opposition or redirect the consequences onto the innocent members of Jewry.

    If the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it, especially when you leaping to wear it implicates other innocent members of your group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    But the best part of the new litmus test for what constitutes antisemitism is the Big Bank test. Do you criticize big banks and their role in the economy? Trump's "long history" of antsemitism included saying in a speech:

    ...

    That's it. That's all it takes to make you a hard-core, dog whistle antisemite in America these days. The author warns "Trump's use of global conspiracy tropes came very close to echoing racist myths about Jewish people." This is "vague and ominous rhetoric to describe nefarious "banks" trying to undermine the working class."
    So the only way the MSM can make their so-called case is to perpetuate centuries-old stereotypes?

    Sounds more like the big banks trying to force the ADL to provide them with services for free.
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    For merely suggesting that the global orthodoxy is fraudulent. That's anti-semitic, even if he's the BFF of Netanyahoo.

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    Not one thing
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    I think you are asking the wrong question, nobody really saying that Trump has said antisemitic things. The very loose accusation is that he inspires antisemites. I have watched a lot of cable news lately and even that accusation is lightly made against him. The real deal is that he activates these people which is really hard to prove.

    I used to visit stormfront a lot during the election and I can tell you from the vibe on that site that a lot of the real antisemites on that forum picked up some thing from him that made them think he was going to expose the jews running the country. The debate was a raging one on the site with the rational reality based people half trying to convince the antisemitic half that he was himself a zionist and huge supporter of Israel. I myself cannot understand how one would believe that a man whose has all his offspring(except for Baron) married to, were married to or dating jews can be antisemitic.

    Also, there was that time he retweeted a tweet from Fuctupmind who one time made a tweet that said

    “Please get rid of the Hasidic Jews. They are the worst people on the planet. They have taken over areas in NY right by me,”
    https://heavy.com/news/2017/09/fuctu...ount-golf-gif/

    But one can argue that he did not know that this twitter user posted something antisemitic in the past. In conclusion, there is something about Trump that definitely gives his supporters the impression that he is an antisemitic. This is in spite of the many familial and professional relationships that tells you that he cannot be an antisemite.

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    Imagine if he came out and said we need to cut all foreign aid to Isreal. Then the media would have a field day of calling him antisemitic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Imagine if he came out and said we need to cut all foreign aid to Isreal.
    I think you have a better chance of winning the powerball and megamillion jackpot in the same week than Trump saying that he would cut all foreign aid to Israel.



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    Trump says/tweets/retweets many things on many sides of any given issue but there is no credible evidence of him being an anti-semite even if he may appeal to some who hold such views.
    Incidentally, Trump himself seemed to on receiving end of apparently 'anti-semitic' criticism from porn star Stormy's lawyer few days ago using the s-word.


    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post


    As Soros was major donor of Hillary-Obama, such suggestions from GOP/Christian leaders can be seen as 'anti-semitic' by some in jewish community. Not sure how much of it is real but there is also a historic context of various Christian/Right leaders in US/Europe facing such accusations over suggestions of Jewish role in media/banking industries, political funding of candidates or 'secret' aspirations for 'saving' Jews by converting them to Christianity. Trump is not the first or only one to face such criticism.


    This week:

    Salon: 'House Majority Leader posted anti-Semitic tweet and then deleted'




    Recent history:

    Former British Foreign secretary: Jewish money prevents peace
    Jack Straw says in parliament debate 'unlimited' funds available to Jewish groups in US used to control America's Mideast policy


    Itamar Eichner|Published: 27.10.13
    Former British Foreign Secretary and Labor MP Jack Straw made harsh anti-Semitics statements during a British parliament debate last week, Yedioth Ahronoth reported. Listing the greatest obstacles to peace, Straw said that unlimited” funds available to Jewish organizations and AIPAC in the US are used to control and divert American policy in the region.

    Straw, who served as foreign secretary in Tony Blair's government in 2001-2006, further claimed that Germany’s “obsession” with defending Israel was also a contributing factor to failure to achieve peace.
    The former British official made the comments during the Round Table Global Diplomatic Forum in the British House of Commons. Also in attendance were former Israeli Knesset Member Einat Wilf and the Palestinian ambassador to London who accused Israel of "cultural genocide" and "ethnic cleansing."

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...445810,00.html




    Even in the US, Christian-Zionism today appears to be different from Christian-Zionism of the Billy Graham-Nixon era as evidenced by recently leaked Graham-Nixon tapes about US "Jewish media control". Graham is no fringe figure among US evangelicals, he's widely seens as Pastor of the Presidents:






    Hillary Clinton praying with Billy Graham

    (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP, FEBRUARY 1, 1972)

    NIXON: “Newsweek” is totally — it's all run by Jews and dominated by them in their editorial pages. The “New York Times, the “Washington Post”, totally Jewish too.

    GRAHAM: And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff. But this stranglehold has got to be broken or this country is going to go down the drain.

    NIXON: Do you believe that?

    GRAHAM: Yes, sir.

    NIXON: I can't ever say it, but I believe it.

    GRAHAM: But if you get elected a second time, we might be able to do something.


    (END AUDIO CLIP)


    ( From: Prince Charles : "Some US President has to have the courage to take on Jewish lobby in the US )





    But Trump compared to other Right leaders is almost unique in that his own largest funder is a Jewish casino owner and he himself has been called a 'globalist' / 'fraud' and such names by some on Right though that view is not adopted by MSM.

    How The Icke Meme Tries To Discredit 'MAGA'









    However recent shooting in PA seems to be putting cracks in so called 'MAGA coalition', time will tell if he's able to hold it togther going forward.


    Shooting victim’s family shuns President Trump in Pittsburgh as top GOP officials decline to join him

    October 30 at 9:02 PM PITTSBURGH — A mourning family doesn’t want to meet him. Leaders of his own party declined to join him. The mayor has explicitly asked him not to come.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ogue-massacre/

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    Since I do not live in Israel I probably would not care if the president really was anti .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Imagine if he came out and said we need to cut all foreign aid to Isreal.
    That and everyone else too would be a good place to start .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I think you have a better chance of winning the powerball and megamillion jackpot in the same week than Trump saying that he would cut all foreign aid to Israel.
    I know but the media would go ballistic if he were to ever say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I think you are asking the wrong question, nobody really saying that Trump has said antisemitic things. The very loose accusation is that he inspires antisemites. I have watched a lot of cable news lately and even that accusation is lightly made against him. The real deal is that he activates these people which is really hard to prove.

    I used to visit stormfront a lot during the election and I can tell you from the vibe on that site that a lot of the real antisemites on that forum picked up some thing from him that made them think he was going to expose the jews running the country. The debate was a raging one on the site with the rational reality based people half trying to convince the antisemitic half that he was himself a zionist and huge supporter of Israel. I myself cannot understand how one would believe that a man whose has all his offspring(except for Baron) married to, were married to or dating jews can be antisemitic.

    Also, there was that time he retweeted a tweet from Fuctupmind who one time made a tweet that said



    https://heavy.com/news/2017/09/fuctu...ount-golf-gif/

    But one can argue that he did not know that this twitter user posted something antisemitic in the past. In conclusion, there is something about Trump that definitely gives his supporters the impression that he is an antisemitic. This is in spite of the many familial and professional relationships that tells you that he cannot be an antisemite.
    I think the Zionist lobby has weaponized this exact conflation, the conflation of Zionists with Jews and Jews with Zionists. Most people think they are exactly the same and make no distinction. They do not know that you can be a Jew and not be a Zionist - a supporter of Israel - and some Zionists aren't even Jews - the Christian right. Jews I know go on the flotillas to Gaza carrying humanitarian aid.

    I would agree with exposing the Zionists who run the country, that is indisputable. But it's wrong to blame everyone in the group, Jews, for their behavior. The Stormfront Neanderthals do so much damage to legitimate critics of Israel that I wonder if they are funded by hard-right Zionists.

    I could give a fuk if Israel is annihilated but I will defend my Jewish friends to the death in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    I think the Zionist lobby has weaponized this exact conflation, the conflation of Zionists with Jews and Jews with Zionists. Most people think they are exactly the same and make no distinction. They do not know that you can be a Jew and not be a Zionist - a supporter of Israel - and some Zionists aren't even Jews - the Christian right. Jews I know go on the flotillas to Gaza carrying humanitarian aid.

    I would agree with exposing the Zionists who run the country, that is indisputable. But it's wrong to blame everyone in the group, Jews, for their behavior. The Stormfront Neanderthals do so much damage to legitimate critics of Israel that I wonder if they are funded by hard-right Zionists.

    I could give a fuk if Israel is annihilated but I will defend my Jewish friends to the death in this country.
    The original NAZIs were sock-puppets of the Zionists.

    There is also another rare type of "Zionist" that believes that GOD will restore the children of Israel to the promised land at a time of his choosing but they are eclipsed by those who wish to use that idea for their own evil ends.
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    The OP has it upside down and backwards. The problem is NOT that Trump is an Anti-Zionist, the PROBLEM is that Donald Trump is 100 percent a Zionist TOOL!

    The FACT is that both Trump and Hillary are working for the same people, the Globalist Zionist Luciferian Adrenochrome Addicted Cannibals:

    89 of our Senators and Congress hold dual citizenship with Israel, which of course is treasonous - you cannot serve two masters...
    - https://prepareforchange.net/2018/06...ip-with-israel

    Audio link of a Rabbi admitting the Zionist intention to kill off all of humanity other than Jews [his words, not mine, including “Hey, we ARE god’s chosen people. Its just most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer.” - an open admission that Jews ARE NOT Israelites, because Israelites are the chosen people of the OTHER God - the Christian God - God the father]:
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLAoWFAvUxE

    Sadly, most politicians are Zionists, including Donald Trump, and even the ADL admits that Zionists are NOT PATRIOTS:
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX-WLBO6c7Q

    Proof of how the Establishment Zionists in Great Britain put Trump into the presidency as a [Fake] Anti-Establishment candidate, using EXTRAORDINARY DECEPTION via Cambridge Analytica:
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=llpfVktepMQ
    - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...tion-Fake-News



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    REMEMBER the documentary "America: Freedom To Fascism", which Level I Red-Pilled so many people early on?
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    LATER the documentary "EUROPA - The Last Battle" was considered to be Level II Red-Pilling.
    - https://www.brighteon.com/search?query=Europa&page=2
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    - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9...FQM8v_bn4AfDEA

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