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    Mr Yang democatic candidate

    This hopeful candidate would like to implement that welfare initiative universal basic income.

    https://www.yang2020.com/meet-andrew/



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    Not one user could be interested to take any interest in this would be candidate? Okay he's a democrat, but get real, like liberty is going to save the future. If anything it created a possible future of overall change, so much for that, I guess we should of lived in a soviet system, at least employment was guaranteed without machines. Fifty years ago, companies in the UK began implementing machines, at first in the first decade it didn't do too much damage, but as time went along it did, but that is the capitalist system, keep growing, and changing.

    I know this candidate may be a bit nutty, and living in the clouds, but I think he at least is interesting enough to bring this up instead of the same old candidates.

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    He has been covered and dismissed in other threads. I do look forward to him contributing to the Primary debates and discussing technology.

    He has not established a clear foreign policy platform though.

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    Nice to know somebody else here at least will listen to the state orientated candidate. I know this place doesn't believe in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Fifty years ago, companies in the UK began implementing machines, at first in the first decade it didn't do too much damage, but as time went along it did, but that is the capitalist system, keep growing, and changing.


    Take a good hard look at this.

    In 1979
    Per Capita GDP Great Britain: $7809
    Per Capita GDP France: $11,170

    In 2016
    Great Britain 40k
    France- $37k

    Britain's standard of living was 30% lower than France's as it embraced your ideals. Britain was a second world mess fifty years ago. Then in 1979 Britain elected Margaret Thatcher. She was an ass kicker and if she were around today, I like to think she would make you homeless. The idea that machines made Britain poorer was refuted in the 1700s by Adam Smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I know this place doesn't believe in that.
    It's sounds to me like you don't believe in helping your fellow man. What are YOU personally doing to ensure your fellow man has a basic income to live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    It's sounds to me like you don't believe in helping your fellow man. What are YOU personally doing to ensure your fellow man has a basic income to live?
    Voting for someone else to make someone else with a gun make someone else do a good deed and then brag about their participation on an internet forum.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    It's sounds to me like you don't believe in helping your fellow man. What are YOU personally doing to ensure your fellow man has a basic income to live?
    He proudly lives off the government without having any physical ailment.

    I have all the sympathy in the world for those who have bad luck in life. Medical bills are expensive. There are all sorts of bad things that can happen. People I have no sympathy for are those who don't even try, then scold people who do put in the effort. That's what this guy comes here and does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Didn't Finland cease their program recently?

    UBI?

    I think that was a limited test program.

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    The critics of the closure said it required more time, another two years or something.

    No, there are so many on here who burying their heads in the sand, sort of like Mr Paul, with his outlook on society, that was why nobody believed he could be head of state. What I didn't realise about him, when I was younger was the programs that kept me alive, he was against, and he was just a selfish person. Sure he may of cared as a doctor to help, but just charity doesn't help anyone.

    I know the communist/socialist system doesn't work well, but neither does unfettered capitalism. Liberty isn't real, government makes the world go around, then the private companies using freedom innovate and create.

    As for three centuries ago, you can't compare 1718 with our time in 2018, the societies were different, as there wasn't any fossil fuels to take away the workers from the farms, so the workers became the new Middle Class a century ago, so therefore everybody wanted to move to the city where there was the modern economy. Machines didn't exist at the time, not like fifty years ago, that is the problem.

    Nobody here seems to see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    The critics of the closure said it required more time, another two years or something.

    No, there are so many on here who burying their heads in the sand, sort of like Mr Paul, with his outlook on society, that was why nobody believed he could be head of state. What I didn't realise about him, when I was younger was the programs that kept me alive, he was against, and he was just a selfish person. Sure he may of cared as a doctor to help, but just charity doesn't help anyone.

    I know the communist/socialist system doesn't work well, but neither does unfettered capitalism. Liberty isn't real, government makes the world go around, then the private companies using freedom innovate and create.

    As for three centuries ago, you can't compare 1718 with our time in 2018, the societies were different, as there wasn't any fossil fuels to take away the workers from the farms, so the workers became the new Middle Class a century ago, so therefore everybody wanted to move to the city where there was the modern economy. Machines didn't exist at the time, not like fifty years ago, that is the problem.

    Nobody here seems to see that.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    The critics of the closure said it required more time, another two years or something.

    No, there are so many on here who burying their heads in the sand, sort of like Mr Paul, with his outlook on society, that was why nobody believed he could be head of state. What I didn't realise about him, when I was younger was the programs that kept me alive, he was against, and he was just a selfish person. Sure he may of cared as a doctor to help, but just charity doesn't help anyone.

    I know the communist/socialist system doesn't work well, but neither does unfettered capitalism. Liberty isn't real, government makes the world go around, then the private companies using freedom innovate and create.

    As for three centuries ago, you can't compare 1718 with our time in 2018, the societies were different, as there wasn't any fossil fuels to take away the workers from the farms, so the workers became the new Middle Class a century ago, so therefore everybody wanted to move to the city where there was the modern economy. Machines didn't exist at the time, not like fifty years ago, that is the problem.

    Nobody here seems to see that.
    Nobody can be this stupid, who writes your material? How much do they pay you?
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    From Yang's website...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan
    In Washington you can see them everywhere: the Parasites and baby Stalins sucking the life out of a once-great nation.



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    As president, my first priority will be to implement Universal Basic Income for every American adult between the ages of 18 and 64: $1,000 a month, no strings attached
    That's not good enough, I don't want to have to choose between Netflix and cable TV, I need both.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    From Yang's website...

    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    No, there are so many on here who burying their heads in the sand, sort of like Mr Paul, with his outlook on society, that was why nobody believed he could be head of state. What I didn't realise about him, when I was younger was the programs that kept me alive, he was against, and he was just a selfish person. Sure he may of cared as a doctor to help, but just charity doesn't help anyone.

    I know the communist/socialist system doesn't work well, but neither does unfettered capitalism. Liberty isn't real, government makes the world go around, then the private companies using freedom innovate and create.

    Nobody here seems to see that.
    I guess it's expected if you get sick just start a GoFundMe.com campaign and hope for the best.

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    That is precisely the Libertarian view.

    I think the Liberty crowd are like some in Venezuela who believe a government can just extract from their land, without maintaining the cost, so Maduro and his military ruined the economy with their one sided view. Libertarianism is like the Communist belief. You can't have it one way. Ron Paul never compromised, and didn't achieve any liberty. But it doesn't exist, anymore than Maduro wanting to maintain an economy without some private entities for services. I don't know, how that guy can sell his country to the loan sharks. I always thought chavez was bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    That is precisely the Libertarian view.

    I think the Liberty crowd are like some in Venezuela who believe a government can just extract from their land, without maintaining the cost, so Maduro and his military ruined the economy with their one sided view. Libertarianism is like the Communist belief. You can't have it one way. Ron Paul never compromised, and didn't achieve any liberty. But it doesn't exist, anymore than Maduro wanting to maintain an economy without some private entities for services. I don't know, how that guy can sell his country to the loan sharks. I always thought chavez was bad news.
    Maduro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    That is precisely the Libertarian view.

    I think the Liberty crowd are like some in Venezuela who believe a government can just extract from their land, without maintaining the cost, so Maduro and his military ruined the economy with their one sided view. Libertarianism is like the Communist belief. You can't have it one way. Ron Paul never compromised, and didn't achieve any liberty. But it doesn't exist, anymore than Maduro wanting to maintain an economy without some private entities for services. I don't know, how that guy can sell his country to the loan sharks. I always thought chavez was bad news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    That is precisely the Libertarian view.

    I think the Liberty crowd are like some in Venezuela who believe a government can just extract from their land, without maintaining the cost, so Maduro and his military ruined the economy with their one sided view. Libertarianism is like the Communist belief. You can't have it one way. Ron Paul never compromised, and didn't achieve any liberty. But it doesn't exist, anymore than Maduro wanting to maintain an economy without some private entities for services. I don't know, how that guy can sell his country to the loan sharks. I always thought chavez was bad news.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy again.
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    I'll state it again, liberty is for the few wackos who are living in la la land. It is a pipe dream, like a lot of political beliefs that don't become mainstream.

    I didn't see the self service checkout arrive, I honestly didn't, and I thought I was up with the tech. The personal computer has changed quickly in the past eight years, net cafe's aren't as popular or really not used much, mainly by immigrants or nationals who lose temporary access from home, some certainly closed. Now sure, the net cafe is a recent business.

    In the manufacturing sector, that has changed, some ship yards, in Europe are now trying out vehicles without drivers for moving containers. Computer programmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I'll state it again, liberty is for the few wackos who are living in la la land. It is a pipe dream, like a lot of political beliefs that don't become mainstream.

    I didn't see the self service checkout arrive, I honestly didn't, and I thought I was up with the tech. The personal computer has changed quickly in the past eight years, net cafe's aren't as popular or really not used much, mainly by immigrants or nationals who lose temporary access from home, some certainly closed. Now sure, the net cafe is a recent business.

    In the manufacturing sector, that has changed, some ship yards, in Europe are now trying out vehicles without drivers for moving containers. Computer programmed.
    Are you lost?

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    I think Mr Yang may not have all the answers, but he's at least looking to the future. Otherwise what do you think he's up to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I think Mr Yang may not have all the answers, but he's at least looking to the future. Otherwise what do you think he's up to?
    Is this a Turing test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I think Mr Yang may not have all the answers, but he's at least looking to the future. Otherwise what do you think he's up to?
    No good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I'll state it again, liberty is for the few wackos who are living in la la land. It is a pipe dream, like a lot of political beliefs that don't become mainstream.

    I didn't see the self service checkout arrive, I honestly didn't, and I thought I was up with the tech. The personal computer has changed quickly in the past eight years, net cafe's aren't as popular or really not used much, mainly by immigrants or nationals who lose temporary access from home, some certainly closed. Now sure, the net cafe is a recent business.

    In the manufacturing sector, that has changed, some ship yards, in Europe are now trying out vehicles without drivers for moving containers. Computer programmed.
    Liberty would find solutions for the problems you describe, our current system creates them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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