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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    that's silly. There'd have to be thousands of libertarians to start with.
    That, right there, is comic gold.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to otherone again.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Did the IRS treat consevative non-profits the same?
    So you cant cite any examples of which we are talking, so you bring up unrelated issues from completely different operations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are either insane or you are trolling.
    I am done trying to teach you to sing. (see my sig)
    Those are the words of one that cant back up their own assertions. Go camping with some libertarian friends out where the rainbow gathering have held their events. I bet you wont have the government send a strikeforce out after you.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    So you cant cite any examples of which we are talking, so you bring up unrelated issues from completely different operations.



    Those are the words of one that cant back up their own assertions. Go camping with some libertarian friends out where the rainbow gathering have held their events. I bet you wont have the government send a strikeforce out after you.
    One last time. (for the benefit of the readers)

    "He said the Forest Service would punish ranchers if they ignored permit requirements and tapped a spring for drinking water like the Rainbow Family has done."

    "An estimated 500 to 700 people have already set up camp at Flagtail Meadow off of Forest Road 24, near the towns of Seneca and John Day. The 46th annual National Rainbow Gathering could draw 15,000 to 20,000 July 1-7, and is being held without a permit required of anyone else who would want to stage such an event on federal forest land.

    Ryan Nehl, deputy Forest Service supervisor on the Malheur and the agency administrator for the event, planned to take a permit form to organizers at the gathering spot June 21.

    'I don’t have a lot of faith they will sign it,' Nehl said. In that case, the Forest Service will impose an operational plan for the gathering to follow, and could take action if those conditions are violated.

    But Nehl said the Forest Service will not attempt to stop the gathering.

    'It’s a risk-based decision,' he said. 'To try and kick them off the land would present a danger to employees and the public.'"

    If this was done by anyone on the "Right" they would not be begging on their hands and knees for us to please sign the permit application.
    They would arrive with armed law-enforcement and would begin to issue citations and make arrests, particularly targeting the organizers.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Ordinary people are fined and or arrested for breaking these kinds of rules every day. The specific rule does not matter.
    Are you really trying to claim that the feds would treat us the same way?
    Who is "us"?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Who is "us"?
    The members of this site or the Ron Paul movement or libertarians or Republicans or any group not composed of gibbering leftists. Take your pick.
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  8. #36
    I've got nothing against the Rainbows. There's been times in the past when they didn't clean up the mess, but they are really good about it these days. But, there's not a single one I know that isn't liberal. I'm sure there may be exceptions.
    I don't see how it is NOT possible to see a double standard here though. The forest service will take a hands off approach because they know who butters their bread at the election poll.
    If there were an militia gathering, without a permit, of 10k, though as otherone notes doubtful, no less than 20 state and federal agencies would be on hand. And leftists would be incensed that they didn't get the required permit.

    Edit for clarity in red.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 06-23-2017 at 03:23 PM.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I've got nothing against the Rainbows. There's been times in the past when they didn't clean up the mess, but they are really good about it these days. But, there's not a single one I know that isn't liberal. I'm sure there may be exceptions.
    I don't see how it ispossible to not see a double standard here though. The forest service will take a hands off approach because they know who butters their bread at the election poll.
    If there were an militia gathering of 10k, though as otherone notes doubtful, no less than 20 state and federal agencies would be on hand.
    Fixed it for you.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Fixed it for you.
    Thank you. "Not" was missing from that sentence.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The members of this site or the Ron Paul movement or libertarians or Republicans or any group not composed of gibbering leftists. Take your pick.
    Some of those people will $#@! in the creek, others will dig a hole and $#@! there. A poll is required to be sure though.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Some of those people will $#@! in the creek, others will dig a hole and $#@! there. A poll is required to be sure though.
    You really need to see a doctor about your dementia.
    Your comments get less rational and less relevant every day.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Some of those people will $#@! in the creek, others will dig a hole and $#@! there. A poll is required to be sure though.
    I'd actually like to attend a rainbow gathering and see how they deal with the human waste. Maybe @specsaregood could get his DW to contribute to the discussion. This is a gathering of between 1ok and 20k people. For 7 days.
    Also there is the other waste. I believe a volunteer crew stays behind and cleans up the mess. But, who pays for the dump fee? I'd imagine a collection is taken?

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'd actually like to attend a rainbow gathering and see how they deal with the human waste. Maybe @specsaregood could get his DW to contribute to the discussion. This is a gathering of between 1ok and 20k people. For 7 days.
    Also there is the other waste. I believe a volunteer crew stays behind and cleans up the mess. But, who pays for the dump fee? I'd imagine a collection is taken?
    I'll ask her tomorrow night. (after work and sleep). She went twice in her youth, its on our "todo" list to attend together someday.

  16. #43
    A good part of the local commune goes to these, they're well versed on waste control/recycling as they live it every day...

    I'd expect there'll be many others from similar environments who'll help the less knowledgeable.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'd actually like to attend a rainbow gathering and see how they deal with the human waste. Maybe @specsaregood could get his DW to contribute to the discussion. This is a gathering of between 1ok and 20k people. For 7 days.
    Also there is the other waste. I believe a volunteer crew stays behind and cleans up the mess. But, who pays for the dump fee? I'd imagine a collection is taken?
    Probably a latrine pit, or port-a-johns. Then they can pay for the honey wagon to come out and empty them.

    I've seen some natural facilities that have regular restrooms that empty out into a marsh. Then the plants break it down.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And you are coming off as a MORON.
    You sir, are no lover of liberty.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    You sir, are no lover of liberty.
    Liberty can not exist when one group is treated different under the law.
    I never called for the hippies to be stopped or arrested or fined, I pointed out that ordinary people have every right to be livid that the Feds treat us one way and the left another.
    It is moronic to pretend that something is not wrong with this.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Probably a latrine pit, or port-a-johns. Then they can pay for the honey wagon to come out and empty them.

    I've seen some natural facilities that have regular restrooms that empty out into a marsh. Then the plants break it down.
    Lol. Have you ever ran a festival? Do you know what the cost factor of enough port-o-johns for 10k for a week runs? And someone would be considered an "organizer" if they rented them. Many rental companies require proof of permit.
    I'm guessing "trench" latrines. I dunno. That's why I'm asking.

  21. #48
    Wrong thread. Oops.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4krmdiVBq


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    What does this have to do with this thread?

    He did not hit anyone and he was cited for reckless driving.
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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I did not call for them to be punished.
    I was not addressing anyone specifically... This was a generic statement meant for all who want to mess with them. Did you feel like the shoe fits??
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