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So you cant cite any examples of which we are talking, so you bring up unrelated issues from completely different operations.
Those are the words of one that cant back up their own assertions. Go camping with some libertarian friends out where the rainbow gathering have held their events. I bet you wont have the government send a strikeforce out after you.
One last time. (for the benefit of the readers)
"He said the Forest Service would punish ranchers if they ignored permit requirements and tapped a spring for drinking water like the Rainbow Family has done."
"An estimated 500 to 700 people have already set up camp at Flagtail Meadow off of Forest Road 24, near the towns of Seneca and John Day. The 46th annual National Rainbow Gathering could draw 15,000 to 20,000 July 1-7, and is being held without a permit required of anyone else who would want to stage such an event on federal forest land.
Ryan Nehl, deputy Forest Service supervisor on the Malheur and the agency administrator for the event, planned to take a permit form to organizers at the gathering spot June 21.
'I don’t have a lot of faith they will sign it,' Nehl said. In that case, the Forest Service will impose an operational plan for the gathering to follow, and could take action if those conditions are violated.
But Nehl said the Forest Service will not attempt to stop the gathering.
'It’s a risk-based decision,' he said. 'To try and kick them off the land would present a danger to employees and the public.'"
If this was done by anyone on the "Right" they would not be begging on their hands and knees for us to please sign the permit application.
They would arrive with armed law-enforcement and would begin to issue citations and make arrests, particularly targeting the organizers.
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I've got nothing against the Rainbows. There's been times in the past when they didn't clean up the mess, but they are really good about it these days. But, there's not a single one I know that isn't liberal. I'm sure there may be exceptions.
I don't see how it is NOT possible to see a double standard here though. The forest service will take a hands off approach because they know who butters their bread at the election poll.
If there were an militia gathering, without a permit, of 10k, though as otherone notes doubtful, no less than 20 state and federal agencies would be on hand. And leftists would be incensed that they didn't get the required permit.
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Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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I'd actually like to attend a rainbow gathering and see how they deal with the human waste. Maybe @specsaregood could get his DW to contribute to the discussion. This is a gathering of between 1ok and 20k people. For 7 days.
Also there is the other waste. I believe a volunteer crew stays behind and cleans up the mess. But, who pays for the dump fee? I'd imagine a collection is taken?
A good part of the local commune goes to these, they're well versed on waste control/recycling as they live it every day...
I'd expect there'll be many others from similar environments who'll help the less knowledgeable.
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I never called for the hippies to be stopped or arrested or fined, I pointed out that ordinary people have every right to be livid that the Feds treat us one way and the left another.
It is moronic to pretend that something is not wrong with this.
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You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
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Lol. Have you ever ran a festival? Do you know what the cost factor of enough port-o-johns for 10k for a week runs? And someone would be considered an "organizer" if they rented them. Many rental companies require proof of permit.
I'm guessing "trench" latrines. I dunno. That's why I'm asking.
Wrong thread. Oops.
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