Is Trump Playing Them or Us?

[John-G]

This question is something we should all ask ourselves before voting in this election. Nobody wants to be fooled by ignoring clear evidence that you have been fooled in order avoid any embarrassment is worse than being fooled.

Watch and discuss. This is not about me, its about all of us

[John-G]

Bump

[RonZeplin]

Gavi, WHO, Bill & Melinda, Donnell & Fauci, Mitch & Nancy, Mnuchin & J. Powell FED.

They hate us because we're mask free & give them the finger.

[enhanced_deficit]

Them.. when he was funding HRC, Kamala Harris and other pro big gummit anti-DOMA progressive socialists.


However some early MAGA faithful purist conservatives have also lately felt that they were 'being played' and that is unfortunate.

Coulter: Trump Will Not Finish Current Term, "joke presidency who scammed the American people"

Conservative GOA leader on Trump: 'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

[Working Poor]

Of course there are many people that see all sides of what is going on. But, All of us are deceived in one way or another. Most of us here know this I think. Now more than ever we need to get in touch with our own intuition. Compare what you know will always be true to what you see happening now.

I am not riding on the "Trump Train" but I am walking along the track. I pay attention to the intersections of this track. I see people getting on the train and others getting off. I talk to the ones getting off I have talked to many of the ones getting on the train. I talk to the ones who have hated Trump since the beginning of this journey. I personally find that I agree more with the people on the train than the ones throwing rocks at it. I see that many of the ones on the train are tired of fighting.

I listen to what Trump says and watch what he is doing. I ask myself does his actions match is words? Sometimes yes and sometimes no is the answer that come back.

When we lift the veil over our own eyes what do we see and, what do we do about it? Personally speaking I am going to pray for peace but prepare for war. I will help when I can and know my own limitations.

[enhanced_deficit]

If you get fooled once, you can get fooled again.
H/T W Bush.

[John-G]

Them.. when he was funding HRC, Kamala Harris and other pro big gummit anti-DOMA progressive socialists.


However some early MAGA faithful purist conservatives have also lately felt that they were 'being played' and that is unfortunate.

Say what you will about crazy Ann but she is much smarter than the average voter. She knows when she is being played

[John-G]

Of course there are many people that see all sides of what is going on. But, All of us are deceived in one way or another. Most of us here know this I think. Now more than ever we need to get in touch with our own intuition. Compare what you know will always be true to what you see happening now.

I am not riding on the "Trump Train" but I am walking along the track. I pay attention to the intersections of this track. I see people getting on the train and others getting off. I talk to the ones getting off I have talked to many of the ones getting on the train. I talk to the ones who have hated Trump since the beginning of this journey. I personally find that I agree more with the people on the train than the ones throwing rocks at it. I see that many of the ones on the train are tired of fighting.

I listen to what Trump says and watch what he is doing. I ask myself does his actions match is words? Sometimes yes and sometimes no is the answer that come back.

When we lift the veil over our own eyes what do we see and, what do we do about it? Personally speaking I am going to pray for peace but prepare for war. I will help when I can and know my own limitations.

Good take but deep down inside, do you think he is playing them or he is playing us?
You look at the backdoor way he fund orgs like the WHO, ISIS, Israel, planned parenthood etc etc. He says he is America first but continues to act like a globalist.

[UWDude]

A pair of socks, JohnG and DiverseSegregation.

I thought ban-defying with sock puppets was a bannable offense itself.

And lets not forget Devil21 uses a sock "chiefJustice"

[pcosmar]

I won't slave for beggar's pay, likewise gold and jewels
But I would slave to learn the way to sink your ship of fools…



Though I could not caution all, I still might warn a few
Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools

[John-G]

A pair of socks, JohnG and DiverseSegregation.

I thought ban-defying with sock puppets was a bannable offense itself.

And lets not forget Devil21 uses a sock "chiefJustice"

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the forum and the world that YOU fear what he might say.

I know you, I have interacted with you for a while now, I believe you are better than this censorship pushing form. You seem to be an ardent rule follower with the banning of sock account but I believe you said nothing when members were banned when they didn't even break any rules

You are a smart man and you have the faculties to debate and win against anyone on this site. You that skill, hone that skill and if I or the other you accuse of being sock accounts have said something wrong, debate them and beat them out with your very sharp intellect.

Enough with this banning BS

[Working Poor]

Good take but deep down inside, do you think he is playing them or he is playing us?.

He understands the power of having the people with him so in that regard he is playing us. It would be a good tactic for him to have the media attacking him all the time and it does gain him sympathy with a lot of people. I don't think he is play the globalist the hate I pick up from them seems real.

I have watched a lot of interviews of Trump from the 80's and 90's and even back then he seemed aware of what was happening and came out against what was going on. He did donate money to a lot of political campaigns in his life. So what I would have too had I had the money. I was floored at how strong he came out against Obama while he was in office and how hard he tried to prove that he was illegal. I never liked Obama and I feel there he has a lot of skeletons in his closet. I voted for Ron both times. This fight has been brewing for a long time at least since Bush sr was in office probably longer but back then was when some people were starting to wake up. Voted for Clinton to get Bush out of office but I could tell he was just as bad by the time he took office.

I like the fact that Trump does try to make peace and he wants to bring the troops home. I like that Rand has his ear. I like to hear Doug Weed talk about him and I do believe he has his ear too. Ron hasn't endorsed him though but, he does seem to support some of his policies. I don't like that he is pushing vaccines. (I have grand children).

At the end of the day I am going to vote for Trump because I sincerely believe that the democrats want to disarm America and raise taxes and continue selling us to China. I don't like that at all and I am sure if they get into office that they will absolutely take the guns not without a fight but I hate to see it happen.

I feel that the vitriol from the media is real and it does seem like Nancy, Maxine, Mittens, Adam and Chuckie ect all hate his guts. He appears to have all the right enemies. I see no other good alternative that could possibly win. It is what it is. I have considered not voting but I have volunteered to pick some people up and take them to the polls so I might as well go ahead and vote.

[UWDude]

I know you, I have interacted with you for a while now,

I don't know how, since I was banned in January, and did not come back until September, and you joined in April.

I hope you get banned soon sock, so you have to pretend to be a noob all over again.

[John-G]

I don't know how, since I was banned in January, and did not come back until September, and you joined in April.

I hope you get banned soon sock, so you have to pretend to be a noob all over again.

It seems like your affinity for rules shows up greatly when you are faced with a debate you cannot win with words. Again, since you love the rules so much, have you ever asked what rules the dozens of people who have been disappeared on this site broke?

Sadly, this push to censor non conformists only shows your weakness as a human being. You want me gone because you cannot competently response to the issues I bring up. Don't worry if I continue on this track, the mods might throw you a bone and create a beautiful safe space where like minded people can bounce around ideas amonst each other. I think they call it an echo chamber and I have a feeling you will love it.

[John-G]

He understands the power of having the people with him so in that regard he is playing us. It would be a good tactic for him to have the media attacking him all the time and it does gain him sympathy with a lot of people. I don't think he is play the globalist the hate I pick up from them seems real.

I have watched a lot of interviews of Trump from the 80's and 90's and even back then he seemed aware of what was happening and came out against what was going on. He did donate money to a lot of political campaigns in his life. So what I would have too had I had the money. I was floored at how strong he came out against Obama while he was in office and how hard he tried to prove that he was illegal. I never liked Obama and I feel there he has a lot of skeletons in his closet. I voted for Ron both times. This fight has been brewing for a long time at least since Bush sr was in office probably longer but back then was when some people were starting to wake up. Voted for Clinton to get Bush out of office but I could tell he was just as bad by the time he took office.

I like the fact that Trump does try to make peace and he wants to bring the troops home. I like that Rand has his ear. I like to hear Doug Weed talk about him and I do believe he has his ear too. Ron hasn't endorsed him though but, he does seem to support some of his policies. I don't like that he is pushing vaccines. (I have grand children).

At the end of the day I am going to vote for Trump because I sincerely believe that the democrats want to disarm America and raise taxes and continue selling us to China. I don't like that at all and I am sure if they get into office that they will absolutely take the guns not without a fight but I hate to see it happen.

I feel that the vitriol from the media is real and it does seem like Nancy, Maxine, Mittens, Adam and Chuckie ect all hate his guts. He appears to have all the right enemies. I see no other good alternative that could possibly win. It is what it is. I have considered not voting but I have volunteered to pick some people up and take them to the polls so I might as well go ahead and vote.

Again, I try to look at actions not words. He may have the best of intentions, make enemies amongst the swampiest of washington swamps but his actions says that he is playing his supporters. How about the wall he said he will build? what happened to it? he said he will get troops out of Syria but then increased the troop levels and then when he tried to pull them again, the dems and deep state pushed back. But instead of fight the deep state, he decided to compromise and only left a few to guard the oil fields. If he knew the deep state would be against him, why send any troops in Syria to begin with?

Non of what he does as president makes any sense considering the platform he ran on. I say that he is playing us

[UWDude]

It seems like your affinity for rules shows up greatly when you are faced with a debate you cannot win with words. Again, since you love the rules so much, have you ever asked what rules the dozens of people who have been disappeared on this site broke?

Sadly, this push to censor non conformists only shows your weakness as a human being. You want me gone because you cannot competently response to the issues I bring up. Don't worry if I continue on this track, the mods might throw you a bone and create a beautiful safe space where like minded people can bounce around ideas amonst each other. I think they call it an echo chamber and I have a feeling you will love it.

I want you gone because you stink, like a dirty sock.

Playing with yourself.

Dirty sock.

[UWDude]

It seems like your affinity for rules shows up greatly when you are faced with a debate you cannot win with words. Again, since you love the rules so much, have you ever asked what rules the dozens of people who have been disappeared on this site broke?

Sadly, this push to censor non conformists only shows your weakness as a human being. You want me gone because you cannot competently response to the issues I bring up. Don't worry if I continue on this track, the mods might throw you a bone and create a beautiful safe space where like minded people can bounce around ideas amonst each other. I think they call it an echo chamber and I have a feeling you will love it.

I have never reported anyone for ban in all the time I have been here. Never once.

You still stink like a dirty sock, though.

[John-G]

I want you gone because you stink, like a dirty sock.

Playing with yourself.

Dirty sock.

Would be fair to say that I would stink a whole lot less if I was a full throated Trump supporter?

[John-G]

I have never reported anyone for ban in all the time I have been here. Never once.

You still stink like a dirty sock, though.

Good to know, I hope people on this site aren't snitches . But it wouldn't made any difference if you did. Brian already knows about the accusations and so far he hasn't banned me.

But while I am still on the forum, how about we have a discussion in this discussion forum called RPF

[Swordsmyth]

Again, I try to look at actions not words. He may have the best of intentions, make enemies amongst the swampiest of washington swamps but his actions says that he is playing his supporters. How about the wall he said he will build? what happened to it? he said he will get troops out of Syria but then increased the troop levels and then when he tried to pull them again, the dems and deep state pushed back. But instead of fight the deep state, he decided to compromise and only left a few to guard the oil fields. If he knew the deep state would be against him, why send any troops in Syria to begin with?

Non of what he does as president makes any sense considering the platform he ran on. I say that he is playing us

There are hundreds of miles of wall built and there will soon be hundreds more, he got most of the troops out of Syria and he will get the rest out just like he is getting them out of Afghanistan and Iraq, he will have to when he gets the troops out of Iraq.

He has accomplished an extraordinary amount of what he promised and will accomplish far more in his second term.

It is YOU who is trying to play us but it won't work, the more lies you tell the more people will support him.

[Working Poor]

Non of what he does as president makes any sense considering the platform he ran on. I say that he is playing us

I think Trump is in a very complex fight. Congress won't give an inch with him. Still I am convinced he is far better than letting the the crew behind Biden back in. I did not like what Bush, Clinton or Obama was doing. I just feel sick any time I think about them. None of them have ever had a real job or have created any thing good for this country. I am pretty sure there is a train wreck ahead I just trust Trump more I think he actually likes people I don't get that at all from Biden, Clinton, Obama, Bush they treat us like we are stupid and I don't like it.. If you don't want Trump in office don't vote for him.

[r3volution 3.0]

I really thought that was a joke created by anti-Trump people, had to google it.

No, turns out that is the actual title of a book.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Vote? What vote? My governor decided it's not safe to vote this election, so mandatory mail-in ballots which might not even be counted, but it's still safe to go down to the government building and pay taxes.

Now I won't know if my vote even makes it to the county office, or was even counted while proceessed/tampered with/etc. There will be a few polling places open during the election, but that's for provisional ballots that are just as phony as mail-in ballots.

AFAIK if there's a discrepancy that equates to around the amount of mail-in/provisional ballots, that's grounds for throwing the votes out or having a re-election if it's disputed, so what do you do when 100% of people are voting by mail/provisional?