Just saw a link minutes ago to a dossier on Donald Trump

[nobody's_hero]

This thread needs more LOLs.

LOL LOL LOL.

[vonMises]

Lol

I still wonder what exactly happened during McCain's days in the Hanoi Hilton but he could be responsible for a level of government transparency that we don't get much any more.

[RJB]

What percentage of regular posters on this forum would you estimate to be Russian trolls?

Bump @vonMises Could you give a ballpark guesstimate. 10 - 20%?

[phill4paul]

I still wonder what exactly happened during McCain's days in the Hanoi Hilton but he could be responsible for a level of government transparency that we don't get much any more.

Lol.

[CPUd]

Harry Reid's letter to the FBI, even says the Director could be violating the Hatch Act:

I wonder if Harry Reid has seen the golden shower videos.

[nobody's_hero]

I wonder if Harry Reid has seen the golden shower videos.

I wonder if anyone here gives a $#@! about Harry Reid.

[Natural Citizen]

I wonder if anyone here gives a $#@! about Harry Reid.

Nope. Maybe a couple stragglers here and there but they're probably Democrats anyway.

[RJB]

I wonder if Harry Reid has seen the golden shower videos.

I would not be surprised if he ran into it while surfing the net for fetish porn. The question is, did he play with himself as he watched it?

[phill4paul]

I wonder if Harry Reid has seen the golden shower videos.

Half-seen.

[phill4paul]

I would not be surprised if he ran into it while surfing the net for fetish porn. The question is, did he play with himself as he watched it?

[nobody's_hero]

Half-seen.

He got a really close look at the golden shower, hehe.

[Origanalist]

Half-seen.

What has been half seen cannot be unhalf seen.

[enhanced_deficit]

This thread needs more LOLs.

LOL LOL LOL.

All right.

Breaking: Trump says he is a germaphobe

[devil21]

I love this forum but it has been a complete nightmare to lurk the past six months. So many disturbingly liberal posters peddling their $#@! like it doesn’t stink. This thread is a prime example of the disappointing content I’ve been having to shift through. It’s like some have forgotten how rotten to the core the media is, as evidenced by the treatment to both Ron and Rand during the election cycles. Or it’s more likely these folks have not forgotten and are just using it to promote their horse $#@! narratives. Bless you bastards that are still trying to keep this place alive and true to what it was/is.

This story is doing a great job of herding straggling cattle that have had big problems with Trump's appointments and recent backtracking on campaign promises back into the pen.

Two hated organizations pitted "against" each other. Media vs meddling intel agencies....and who comes out looking good suddenly and a galvanizing figure for those who hate the media and/or meddling intel? The guy that is surrounding himself with bankers and billionaires.

Is this real life?

He's right. It isn't legit. 4chan has done some pretty impressive stuff like fooling liberals into using a safety pins which was actually gay signalling for asking for getting it in the rear with a condom. Ask yourself, do you really think this info wouldn't have come out during the election where people were offering serious money for any information on Trump?

I don't know what's true and what isn't in this case but the evidence presented as of early this morning that it was a 4chan hoax was rather flimsy and short of corroborating specifics. Perhaps more specific evidence that the 4chan hoaxer was behind it has come out since (I'm catching up on the fake news for the day now) but the earlier evidence was far from convincing, even under a totality of circumstances standard.

[vonMises]

Bump @vonMises Could you give a ballpark guesstimate. 10 - 20%?

It seems like a lot more than 10 to 20% these days... I think I said that naming names (or screen names at least) is a thing that I should do but I do possess some level of respect for Russian trolls even if they have harmful intentions. And I may be getting ahead of myself here, as I sort of wanted to post this in that one ISIS thread when I eventually came to it, but I think amnesty should be granted to most Russian residents or U.S. nationals that are seditious in the U.S., even sparing Comey for whatever he could have done beyond punishing him for Hatch Act violations.

On the otherhand, I do wonder if there exist a libertarian/gold-bug/anarchist/prepper conspiracy to collapse the U.S. as we know it by giving Donald Trump bad advice... Not too many people have made financial positions and other positions to insulate themselves from the utter collapse of the U.S. as they have... This is not even what Trump (if he knew better), or what the Russians want for the U.S. If such a conspiracy ever does manifest itself and Trump gets wind of it before he makes disastrous decisions, I think Trump himself may want to see these people executed, and I myself being silent of whether this punishment fits their crime...

[vonMises]

Many Russian trolls are so mean spirited that it's very hard to forgive them for the things they've done, but it's something I've already done when I first began to know about them. Once the average "conspiracy theory believing" RPFer finally gets wind to how much he's been had though, he may actually want the worse for Russian trolls but I don't.

[Athan]

I don't know what's true and what isn't in this case but the evidence presented as of early this morning that it was a 4chan hoax was rather flimsy and short of corroborating specifics. Perhaps more specific evidence that the 4chan hoaxer was behind it has come out since (I'm catching up on the fake news for the day now) but the earlier evidence was far from convincing, even under a totality of circumstances standard.

How about this then, instead of dossiers and here say from both sides, why don't you wait for any real evidence to come out? See the thing is, a lot of this is politically motivated. People in very high political, business, and celebrity positions are going after Trump for a reason that has little to do with his immigration politics. It has to do with his position to go after criminals in the deep state, the nation, and potentially and across the globe such as the pedo ring bust in Norway. Specifically I'm talking about elitist fears from Pizzagate and Pedowood fall out. When it comes to Pizzagate, it at first glance would seem politically motivated, but the body of evidence upon brief digging from Alefantis and Podesta gives people a clearer picture of what they are likely doing.

Right now, wait for evidence, because we haven't seen anything other than an allegation with little clues to back it up.

[vonMises]

And I haven't said this yet, but once I got over elevated adrenaline and cortisol levels in the hour or day following the election, I very much have looked forward to a Donald Trump presidency, even it's possible pitfalls, and hope I could even have an impact on it.

[vonMises]

Donald Trump could usher in the apocalypse but the way in which I regulate my mind makes me not mind things as much.

[nobody's_hero]

It seems like a lot more than 10 to 20% these days... I think I said that naming names (or screen names at least) is a thing that I should do but I do possess some level of respect for Russian trolls even if they have harmful intentions. And I may be getting ahead of myself here, as I sort of wanted to post this in that one ISIS thread when I eventually came to it, but I think amnesty should be granted to most Russian residents or U.S. nationals that are seditious in the U.S., even sparing Comey for whatever he could have done beyond punishing him for Hatch Act violations.

On the otherhand, I do wonder if there exist a libertarian/gold-bug/anarchist/prepper conspiracy to collapse the U.S. as we know it by giving Donald Trump bad advice... Not too many people have made financial positions and other positions to insulate themselves from the utter collapse of the U.S. as they have... This is not even what Trump (if he knew better), or what the Russians want for the U.S. If such a conspiracy ever does manifest itself and Trump gets wind of it before he makes disastrous decisions, I think Trump himself may want to see these people executed, and I myself being silent on the issue of whether this punishment fits their crime...

Zippy, CPUd,

You two are off the hook. Got a certifiable troll here with psychosis as an added bonus. Unless of course vonMises is one of you two, in which case, ya got me fooled.

[CPUd]

Zippy, CPUd,

You two are off the hook. Got a certifiable troll here with psychosis as an added bonus. Unless of course vonMises is one of you two, in which case, ya got me fooled.

Quite a few off the hook in this thread. Not sure why you would want to just point at 1 or 2 specific members.

[devil21]

How about this then, instead of dossiers and here say from both sides, why don't you wait for any real evidence to come out? See the thing is, a lot of this is politically motivated. People in very high political, business, and celebrity positions are going after Trump for a reason that has little to do with his immigration politics. It has to do with his position to go after criminals in the deep state, the nation, and potentially and across the globe such as the pedo ring bust in Norway. Specifically I'm talking about elitist fears from Pizzagate and Pedowood fall out. When it comes to Pizzagate, it at first glance would seem politically motivated, but the body of evidence upon brief digging from Alefantis and Podesta gives people a clearer picture of what they are likely doing.

Right now, wait for evidence, because we haven't seen anything other than an allegation with little clues to back it up.

The whole thing is pretty short on specifics and evidence and any time intel agencies are front and center as part of a narrative, TAKE A STEP BACK! Don't get invested in the story! Waiting for the "facts" is sort of....mmm....like waiting for the fox to feed you, the hen. I just looked at the alleged twitter account of the alleged 4chan originator. Guess what I saw? Supporting comments of Dylan Roof with racist language, tweets about Rand, a tribute to Tim McVeigh. I stopped looking at that point. Stinks. The intel agencies are the shadow government (CFR et al), also are the controllers of the media, the action arm of the bankers and they are not fans of smart libertarians. I smell a set up. ymmv

(our good buddy and old friend John McCain is also a key figure in the narrative as a passer of the "intel")

[dannno]

On the otherhand, I do wonder if there exist a libertarian/gold-bug/anarchist/prepper conspiracy to collapse the U.S. as we know it by giving Donald Trump bad advice... Not too many people have made financial positions and other positions to insulate themselves from the utter collapse of the U.S. as they have... This is not even what Trump (if he knew better), or what the Russians want for the U.S. If such a conspiracy ever does manifest itself and Trump gets wind of it before he makes disastrous decisions, I think Trump himself may want to see these people executed, and I myself being silent of whether this punishment fits their crime...

What kind of "bad advice" do you think the libertarians might give to Trump?

[vonMises]

Zippy, CPUd,

You two are off the hook. Got a certifiable troll here with psychosis as an added bonus. Unless of course vonMises is one of you two, in which case, ya got me fooled.

I can actually trust Zippy and CPUd's judgement on things...

I've come across libertarians long enough to find that a few are psychopaths that have a complete inability to relate to people or care what really happens to people. Even if Trump is a pervert, lies about things, or whatever, I think the man is still capable of having good intentions toward the average American, but such is not true for some libertarians...

[Todd]

It's fun to watch the MSM implode. I just can't believe it's a goober like Trump that pushed it along. lol.

[vonMises]

What kind of "bad advice" do you think the libertarians might give to Trump?

Our current debt is not much of a problem as long as other countries maintain confidence in the U.S. as a country. They are willing to support whatever economic/military/political system or order the U.S. has in place as long as they could be defended. The idea of NATO/EU/Euro being American phenomenons. So for example, once the U.S. reneges on the defense of any NATO country, almost all NATO countries will stop deferring and supporting the U.S., thus collapsing the system we have in place almost immediately and subsequently impacting the livelihoods of every American, especially those who rely on the government (it will mean that those on Medicare, for example, die in the millions if we suddenly can't pay for their care). Donald Trump will be given a number of situations as it concerns NATO/EU and if he does something that violates prior NATO/EU commitments (like letting a NATO country get invaded and doing nothing or doing nothing to have prevented it) that means the end of the U.S. as a superpower and the collapse of the U.S. economy.

[goldenequity]

How the CIA was PRANKED by 4€han



Did 4Chan Troll The CIA?

[vonMises]

So the debt, or whatever other thing, only exist as liabilities in comparison to an ultimate inability to use nukes to defend the order we created.

[dannno]

Our current debt is not much of a problem as long as other countries maintain confidence in the U.S. as a country. They are willing to support whatever economic/military/political system or order the U.S. has in place as long as they could be defended. The idea of NATO/EU/Euro being American phenomenons. So for example, once the U.S. reneges on the defense of any NATO country, almost all NATO countries will stop deferring and supporting the U.S., thus collapsing the system we have in place almost immediately and subsequently impacting the livelihoods of every American, especially those who rely on the government (it will mean that those on Medicare, for example, die in the millions if we suddenly can't pay for their care). Donald Trump will be given a number of situations as it concerns NATO/EU and if he does something that violates prior NATO/EU commitments (like letting a NATO country get invaded and doing nothing or doing nothing to have prevented it) that means the end of the U.S. as a superpower and the collapse of the U.S. economy.

Rand Paul just said the other day on the senate floor that the debt is a huge problem. One of the ways we can help solve the debt problem is by not being the policemen of the world.

Do you think Trump should send Rand Paul to a concentration camp to be exterminated?

[vonMises]

Rand Paul just said the other day on the senate floor that the debt is a huge problem. One of the ways we can help solve the debt problem is by not being the policemen of the world.

Do you think Trump should send Rand Paul to a concentration camp to be exterminated?

Other countries have horrible GDP to debt ratios, and this will hurt them, but U.S. debt could go exponentially higher as long as other things get higher as well...like more military bases around the world... But if the world lives in a system in which no one has much confidence in the U.S. any longer, it makes a lot of more sense to start getting rid of things.