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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverseSegregation View Post
    Good thing they are out for equal justice.
    ya , thats been out the window a long time . if trump wants to do something truly great he should abolish the fbi



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  3. #62
    Nobody’s abolishing FBI. Put Gen Mike Flynn in as chief & its a brand new day in America

  4. #63
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to vita3 again.


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  7. #65
    Saw some UK media coverage of this story earlier but on google news front page did not see any headline. Media seems to batting for Biden camp on this.
    In quick sampling of media headlines, there appears to be less than 1/10th coverage of this story than there was of recent scandals involving porn star Stormy Daniels for example that was splashed all over print/TV media for days or of Trump-Jeffrey Esptein and Trump-Ghislaine Maxwell photos coverage in MSM.

  8. #66
    I just don't see the whole Biden corruption thing becoming a big story. Average voters don't care. I think he is probably guilty of it though.

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I just don't see the whole Biden corruption thing becoming a big story. Average voters don't care. I think he is probably guilty of it though.
    If that is true their bias is overwhelming. They sure did care about Russiagate and a phone call.

  10. #68
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It is a complex issue. Not black and white.

    Twitter and Facebook are the largest and most ubiquitous communication platforms out there. Politicians, media, celebrities, all give out their Twitter account names as if they were email addresses or phone numbers.

    Right now, Twitter is treated exactly like this forum, which is extremely small, with nothing like a monopoly status. We have a stated political agenda, that being essentially modeled from Ron Paul. Twitter does not have a stated political agenda or affiliation, even though it is blatantly obvious that they are DNC/leftist.

    So Twitter is not a traditional, old fashioned internet forum. They are much more similar to the telephone company or the internet email system itself. Yet it is a platform with a political agenda. Where does it fit in?

    Some say it a media company that consists entirely of comments section which it moderates (exerts editorial control). But that is not a good analogy either. Nobody reads and approves everything before it is posted. It is only reviewed when a controversy occurs (generally via others reporting posts). And your favorite politician does not say "hey, if you want to contact me, go to the New York Times and sign up for an account with them, then you can contact me".

    IMHO, the best analogy is still the utility company model. They are nearly a monopoly (oligopoly), and there are no alternatives with the same reach (ie. public person user base). But utilities can not pick and choose their customers based upon political (or other) affiliations.
    Bad analogy. Both the telephone system and internet email are point to point. You don't expect people to get your message other than who you are directing it to. So nobody mad at the telephone company if, for example, a mafia don uses it to order a hit on someone. Nobody is mad at Hotmail or Google for emails sent from one terrorist cell to another. But there was a lot of talk from conservatives about how YouTube, Twitter and other big tech should take action to prevent the Islamic State from using their platforms for recruiting and spreading propaganda. I remember calling into to one conservative talk show host who kept talking about this and saying to him "But might these tech companies turn around and start banning conservatives?" This was before Alex Jones was de-platformed.

    A better analogy would be the cable company. Are cable companies required to carry all channels? (Hint....they don't.) What about public access cable? It seems neutral enough. No overt political agenda. Do they have to take all content as long as the technical requirements are met? I honestly don't know the answer to that one.
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    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So the 1stA protects fraud?
    Because that is what they are engaged in, they claim to be neutral platforms but act as biased publishers.
    If they have violated their own terms of service then they can be sued for breach of contract. That said....I never actually read any of the terms of service for any of these platforms.
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Bad analogy. Both the telephone system and internet email are point to point. You don't expect people to get your message other than who you are directing it to. So nobody mad at the telephone company if, for example, a mafia don uses it to order a hit on someone. Nobody is mad at Hotmail or Google for emails sent from one terrorist cell to another. But there was a lot of talk from conservatives about how YouTube, Twitter and other big tech should take action to prevent the Islamic State from using their platforms for recruiting and spreading propaganda. I remember calling into to one conservative talk show host who kept talking about this and saying to him "But might these tech companies turn around and start banning conservatives?" This was before Alex Jones was de-platformed.

    A better analogy would be the cable company. Are cable companies required to carry all channels? (Hint....they don't.) What about public access cable? It seems neutral enough. No overt political agenda. Do they have to take all content as long as the technical requirements are met? I honestly don't know the answer to that one.
    Because reporting and discussing the news is exactly like planning and ordering crimes?
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    If they have violated their own terms of service then they can be sued for breach of contract. That said....I never actually read any of the terms of service for any of these platforms.
    It's not just the ToS, it's how they advertise themselves and the legal privileges they claim.

    You can't be a publisher and a platform, yet they pretend to be both and Facebook has even had the gall to officially claim to be one and then the other in different court cases.
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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Biden Campaign: VP May Have Had ‘Informal’ Meeting With Burisma Exec At Center Of Bombshell NY Post Report

    https://editorial.dailywire.com/news...y-post-report/
    As Politico reports:

    Biden’s campaign would not rule out the possibility that the former VP had some kind of informal interaction with Pozharskyi, which wouldn’t appear on Biden’s official schedule. But they said any encounter would have been cursory.
    Whenever a campaign uses a word that is above the 5th grade reading level, you should immediately go look up the legal definition of the word as the groundwork is being laid to weasel out of something. The choice of "cursory" over "desultory" pretty much screams future weaseling.

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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    ya , thats been out the window a long time . if trump wants to do something truly great he should abolish the fbi
    One of the few law enforcement agencies in Mordor that does not have protestors calling for its defunding.

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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by John-G View Post
    Thanks for the response. I sorta agree with him, suing them is not the answer. Boycotting the sh*t out of them is the only solution I see. Trump should have gone to gab long ago and pull his millions of supporters with in. Twitter is no friend to non liberals
    Good idea but wrong platform. Gab got kicked off the app stores. Mastedon is better because it's a protocol rather than a platform. That means Apple and Google would have to stop every app submitted that had Mastedon capability rather than targeting one app and blocking it. But yeah, if back in 2018 Trump left Twitter whatever platform he went to as an alternative would be instantly huge. Not just Trump's fans would follow him there, but so would many of his enemies. CNN may hate Trump but they would hate being the last to get his latest tirade because they weren't on the social media platform he was on.

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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Because reporting and discussing the news is exactly like planning and ordering crimes?
    No. But there is crossover. Trump's press secretary just got censored trying to release information that ultimately came from a hacked source. Yes she was quoting the NY Times so it's a stretch, but the original source of the information was a hack. The point is, as soon as you start doing community guidelines you open the door to censorship of some kind or another. And I see you totally ignored what I was saying about the phone company and email. Those are bad analogies because it is not expected for those companies to thwart their platforms from being used as crimes the way it is expected for social media platforms. The phony crime, that even republicans have played along with, is that Russian bots "hacked" the 2016 election by "spreading misinformation." (Those dirty Russians). So we have to "stop" misuse and abuse. When Zuckerberg was pulled before congress to "answer" for not stopping the spread of "misinformation" on his platform, how many people stood up in Congress and said "Hold on a second. This could backfire?"
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Bad analogy. Both the telephone system and internet email are point to point. You don't expect people to get your message other than who you are directing it to. So nobody mad at the telephone company if, for example, a mafia don uses it to order a hit on someone. Nobody is mad at Hotmail or Google for emails sent from one terrorist cell to another. But there was a lot of talk from conservatives about how YouTube, Twitter and other big tech should take action to prevent the Islamic State from using their platforms for recruiting and spreading propaganda. I remember calling into to one conservative talk show host who kept talking about this and saying to him "But might these tech companies turn around and start banning conservatives?" This was before Alex Jones was de-platformed.

    A better analogy would be the cable company. Are cable companies required to carry all channels? (Hint....they don't.) What about public access cable? It seems neutral enough. No overt political agenda. Do they have to take all content as long as the technical requirements are met? I honestly don't know the answer to that one.
    We can find aspects of Facebook and Twitter in several past and current technologies. A bulletin board in a public square is similar, but they both have DM features too. They used to have party lines for telephones, long before any of our time though.

    It is a new technology that has not been directly addressed by the law. It is not completely analogous to any one past communication method. It will take more than a tweak to an existing law to address it fairly and within the confines of the 1st Amendment.
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  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    No. But there is crossover. Trump's press secretary just got censored trying to release information that ultimately came from a hacked source. Yes she was quoting the NY Times so it's a stretch, but the original source of the information was a hack. The point is, as soon as you start doing community guidelines you open the door to censorship of some kind or another. And I see you totally ignored what I was saying about the phone company and email. Those are bad analogies because it is not expected for those companies to thwart their platforms from being used as crimes the way it is expected for social media platforms. The phony crime, that even republicans have played along with, is that Russian bots "hacked" the 2016 election by "spreading misinformation." (Those dirty Russians). So we have to "stop" misuse and abuse. When Zuckerberg was pulled before congress to "answer" for not stopping the spread of "misinformation" on his platform, how many people stood up in Congress and said "Hold on a second. This could backfire?"
    A hack is unauthorized access. This is not unauthorized access since he relinquished the data under terms.

    This is the equivalent of taking nude photos of yourself and then leaving them at the public park one day. Then complaining that people saw your pics.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's not just the ToS, it's how they advertise themselves and the legal privileges they claim.

    You can't be a publisher and a platform, yet they pretend to be both and Facebook has even had the gall to officially claim to be one and then the other in different court cases.
    Right. The whole "can they or can't they be sued" argument. Only....it's not as strong as you think. I've heard Tucker Carlson make that same argument. Then when he got sued for libel, he got out of the suit suing the "I'm not to be taken seriously as news" argument. Should Facebook as a "publisher" be able to be sued for what someone not employed by them posts? As @Brian4Liberty has pointed out, this place doesn't pretend to be neutral. But if someone posted something that turned out to be liable should RPF be open to a lawsuit just because the mods didn't happen to catch it?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    We can find aspects of Facebook and Twitter in several past and current technologies. A bulletin board in a public square is similar, but they both have DM features too. They used to have party lines for telephones, long before any of our time though.

    It is a new technology that has not been directly addressed by the law. It is not completely analogous to any one past communication method. It will take more than a tweak to an existing law to address it fairly and within the confines of the 1st Amendment.
    True. And come to think of it, Facebook censors DMs. When I found out Dr. Fauci had Jesuit connections I started blasting it out through DMs and after a while Facebook but quit letting me message the link saying I had sent it to too many people in too short a time. But that's not happened to me before or since. Creepy.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    We can find aspects of Facebook and Twitter in several past and current technologies. A bulletin board in a public square is similar, but they both have DM features too. They used to have party lines for telephones, long before any of our time though.
    I used to listen in on our party line. Always listening for a click to see if anyone was listening in on you.

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Is it even going to matter any more? I think at this point both Trump and Biden could be indicted and they would continue their campaigns without losing support.
    + rep

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    True. And come to think of it, Facebook censors DMs. When I found out Dr. Fauci had Jesuit connections I started blasting it out through DMs and after a while Facebook but quit letting me message the link saying I had sent it to too many people in too short a time. But that's not happened to me before or since. Creepy.
    Yep, pretty creepy. And we have all stood by and watched the DMs and emails be read by providers, and apparently in the case of Facebook, censored.

    Imagine if this whole thing went backwards, and it becomes commonplace and legal for email and telephone companies to censor and ban?
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Let's see if I can wrap my head around this story:

    - In April 2019, a unknown man dropped off three laptops at a computer repair shop

    - The owner and only employee of that shop has a medical condition which prevents him from identifying anyone

    - Also, the owner didn't get any kind of contact information or produce a receipt or deposit slip, which seems totally normal for a transaction involving three laptops

    - But, there was a Beau Biden Foundation sticker on the laptop, which the shop owner decided meant that the person who dropped the laptops off was Hunter Biden.

    - Hunter Biden then never got his three laptops and external hard drive full of evidence of his criminal activity from this shop

    - In June 2019, the shop owner decided to examine the hard drive, found something he thought was criminal, and notified someone whose identify he will not reveal that he had this laptop and information

    - The unidentified intermediary person then notified the FBI

    - Wait, no maybe the FBI contacted the shop owner first?

    - No, actually the shop owner contacted the FBI himself, without an intermediary, and then the FBI contacted him back

    - Either way, the FBI seized the laptop and hard drive in December 2019, 6 months after he first contacted them, or they first contacted him, or he told an intermediary who contacted them, or they contacted his intermediary who contacted him who contacted them who contacted him

    - Before giving the laptop over to the FBI, the owner made another copy for himself

    - For some reason the FBI needed help from the shop owner afterward because they couldn't figure out how to access an external hard drive by themselves, and they weren't sure what kind of power cable they needed for a Macbook Pro

    - Everyone sips martinis for eleven months

    - The unidentified intermediary attempts to contact members of Congress about the copy of the hard drive

    - The unidentified intermediary, somehow and for some reason, directly contacts Rudy Giuliani to offer him the copy of the hard drive

    - Giuliani gives the copy of the hard drive to the New York Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by olehounddog View Post
    I used to listen in on our party line. Always listening for a click to see if anyone was listening in on you.
    Little did we know that all telephones were party lines for the people with access...
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    Hunter Biden CENSORSHIP, & Clarence Thomas on 230 Immunity - Viva Frei Vlawg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So the 1stA protects fraud?
    Because that is what they are engaged in, they claim to be neutral platforms but act as biased publishers.
    Exactly my view, the underlying problem is fraud.

    Take twitter for example, see their "about" page:
    https://about.twitter.com/

    False and/or misleading claims:
    • Twitter is what’s happening in the world and what people are talking about right now.
    • When it happens it happens on Twitter.
    • See what people are talking about.
    • Spark a global conversation.



    All claims attempt to establish themselves as a neutral platform, but they aren't, which is fraud. Their open bans on potential corruption research / awareness is a clear example of the fraud:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre.../#67b969a272e6


    How Twitter's claims should read....
    • Twitter is what’s happening in the world and what people are talking about right now, unless we decided to block it.
    • When it happens it happens on Twitter, unless we banned it for our own personal reasons.
    • See what people are talking about, except for those pushing content we don't like.
    • Spark a global conversation, as long as we approve of the message.


    Not quite as catchy...
    This site has a specific purpose defined in our Mission Statement.

    Members must read and follow our Community Guidelines.

    I strive to respond to all queries; please excuse late and out-of-sequence responses.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Right. The whole "can they or can't they be sued" argument. Only....it's not as strong as you think. I've heard Tucker Carlson make that same argument. Then when he got sued for libel, he got out of the suit suing the "I'm not to be taken seriously as news" argument. Should Facebook as a "publisher" be able to be sued for what someone not employed by them posts? As @Brian4Liberty has pointed out, this place doesn't pretend to be neutral. But if someone posted something that turned out to be liable should RPF be open to a lawsuit just because the mods didn't happen to catch it?
    There is a difference between being responsible for something you were not aware of and being responsible for something you were made aware of with a reasonable amount of time to react to.

    There is also a difference between being responsible for what someone else posted and being responsible for your own statements or censorings vs. what you advertise and testify under oath to.
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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There is a difference between being responsible for something you were not aware of and being responsible for something you were made aware of with a reasonable amount of time to react to.

    There is also a difference between being responsible for what someone else posted and being responsible for your own statements or censorings vs. what you advertise and testify under oath to.
    It gets deeper than that when it comes to the law. I bet they would argue that you should have been aware of it.

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