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    Cult leader Charles Manson dies aged 83 one week after being admitted to hospital

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-aged-83.html

    Charles Manson has died at the age of 83 a week after being taken to hospital
    Debra Tate, the sister of one of his victims, received a call from the prison
    The cult leader's health had been steadily declining for months
    In January, he was rushed to hospital for intestinal bleeding and a sigmoid lesion
    The 83-year-old had been behind bars for more than four decades, since 1969
    He ordered members of his cult to go on a murderous two-day rampage

    By JENNY STANTON and JESSICA FINN and CHEYENNE ROUNDTREE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
    PUBLISHED: 00:29 EST, 20 November 2017 | UPDATED: 01:25 EST, 20 November 2017

    Cult leader Charles Manson has died aged 83.

    The news was confirmed by Debra Tate, the sister of one of his victims - pregnant actress Sharon Tate, who told TMZ she received a call to say he had died.

    The information was quickly verified by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, which said he died from natural causes at 8.13pm on Sunday at a Kern County hospital.

    Earlier this week it was reported he was on his death bed in hospital and sources claimed 'it's just a matter of time.'
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    About time.
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    I wasn't around back then, but I've always been under the impression that guy really tarnished LSD's reputation.. motherfucker..
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    Factbox: Where Charles Manson's cult followers are now

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/factbox-w...070913006.html

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Charles Manson, the convicted mass murderer and cult leader who died on Sunday at the age of 83, orchestrated the gruesome murders of seven people in August 1969 in California by his followers, a group of runaways and outcasts known as the "Manson Family."

    Here is what has become of several of the members of Manson's cult:

    * Charles "Tex" Watson, 71, described himself as Manson's "right hand man." On Aug. 9, 1969, he and three female accomplices murdered actress Sharon Tate and four visitors at her Beverly Hills home. The following night, they killed a couple, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, at their Los Angeles home. Watson remains in prison in California after repeatedly being denied parole. He became a minister in 1981, taking a path similar to some other ex-Manson Family members who also turned to Christianity.

    * Susan Atkins, who took part in several of the slayings including those at the Tate residence and who wrote "Pig" in blood on a house wall, died of brain cancer in a California prison in 2009 at age 61. Atkins had been denied a request to be freed on parole as the fatal illness took hold.

    * Patricia Krenwinkel, 69, who took part in the murders of the LaBiancas and at the Tate residence, has become California's longest-serving woman prisoner. In June, commissioners again denied parole for Krenwinkel, after a six-month inquiry to look into allegations that she had been abused by Manson or someone else, according to the Los Angeles Times.

    * Leslie Van Houten, 68, is serving a life sentence for taking part in the murders of the LaBiancas. Last year, California Governor Jerry Brown overturned a parole board recommendation that she should be released, saying that Van Houten still posed an "unreasonable danger to society." In September, the parole board again granted her parole, which started a 150-day review process that will likely culminate in a final decision by Brown.

    * Bruce Davis, 75, was sentenced to life in prison for the 1969 murders of music teacher Gary Hinman and stunt man Donald "Shorty" Shea. Brown has repeatedly overturned recommendations by the California parole board that Davis should be freed.

    * Robert (Bobby) Beusoleil, 70, is serving a life sentence for the 1969 murder of Hinman. A California parole board last denied his bid on Oct. 14, 2016. He will be eligible for a hearing again in 2019.

    * Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, 69, was a member of the Manson Family and attended Manson's trial. In 1975, she was tackled by a Secret Service agent after she aimed a pistol at then President Gerald Ford. Convicted of attempted assassination, she was sentenced to life in prison. She was paroled in 2009 and moved to Marcy in New York state, according to the New York Post.

    (Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis in Los Angeles; Editing by Daniel Wallis and Diane Craft)
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    Failed wanna-be rock star. Took too much acid and believed he was Jesus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Took too much acid and believed he was Jesus.
    Ya, it wasn't because he was crazy, or because he was MKULTRAd, it was because he took LSD..

    What a bunch of horse $#@!.

    LSD is $#@!ing awesome. It has not lost popularity, if anything it has gained popularity over the decades, although there may have been a minor slump in the late 80s, I don't know. But if you don't know how popular it is today, then you are just out of the loop. There are countless festivals all over the country where tens or possibly even hundreds of thousands of people are on LSD. It really started picking up steam in the mid-90s when the rave scene started becoming popular.

    I have never felt anything besides complete bliss and serenity taking high quality LSD. There have been zero LSD death cults since 1969, which tells me that something else was at play here, and once again, pretty much everything zippy says is complete horse $#@!.
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    I'm going to approach this in a little different way. I grew up in the Los Angeles area and I remember when these murders happened. We subscribed to the LA Times which was a far better paper in those days, and the Sunday edition was as thick as a very thick phone book (for those of you old enough to remember dial phones and phone books).

    I remember hearing about the murders on the news and I think I read every single story about them. It was a horrible and a little bit frightening time then that someone could manipulate others into committing such heinous crimes.

    California failed to administer justice. God will not fail.
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    The man who singlehandedly killed the 60s.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I'm going to approach this in a little different way. I grew up in the Los Angeles area and I remember when these murders happened. We subscribed to the LA Times which was a far better paper in those days, and the Sunday edition was as thick as a very thick phone book (for those of you old enough to remember dial phones and phone books).

    I remember hearing about the murders on the news and I think I read every single story about them. It was a horrible and a little bit frightening time then that someone could manipulate others into committing such heinous crimes.

    California failed to administer justice. God will not fail.
    Manson never actually killed anybody. He convinced others to do it for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post




    I guess I should watch the videos, I haven't yet, but the LSD experiments failed... they weren't able to use it for mind control.. But it was really fun and some people who were experimented on ended up manufacturing it and getting it out to the public.

    I'm guessing there was more drugs being taken by Manson and Co. than LSD, they just wanted to demonize LSD because it actually makes people less easy to control.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Manson never actually killed anybody. He convinced others to do it for him.
    Conspiracy theory.

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    Charles who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Conspiracy theory.

    neg-rep
    Like another one is going to make much difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Like another one is going to make much difference.

    It might make a difference to Republican Guy.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Manson never actually killed anybody. He convinced others to do it for him.
    Uh huh.

    I have always found it an interesting case in US "law".

    and as to inspiring others to kill or die,,, have you seen any recruitment adds lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Uh huh.

    I have always found it an interesting case in US "law".

    and as to inspiring others to kill or die,,, have you seen any recruitment adds lately?
    1:45
    Last edited by dannno; 04-22-2020 at 07:24 PM.
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    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    1:45
    Lots of speculation,,but any evil genius could do the same applying psychological manipulation..
    if he worked with them or not,, they certainly learned from and use the same techniques.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    was C.M Mk-Ultra, and thusly a test subject for some sadistic & screwed up CIA person, who'd tell James Jesus Angleton things? GOTO how James "Whitey" Bulger got let out of prison early, in the 1960s.

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    Well, this is funny. A blast from the recent past. This time tho, Zip and Repub Guy have been flushed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Manson never actually killed anybody. He convinced others to do it for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Conspiracy theory.

    neg-rep



    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Like another one is going to make much difference.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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