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  1. #91
    You see what the Democrats are doing here?

    Releasing (taking in) the women & children WHO QUALIFY FOR WELFARE

    and sending back the single men who would NOT QUALIFY FOR WELFARE (and might seek work).

    The Democrats want more immigration ON WELFARE so they can lock up the vote - forever.
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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Ron Paul's words, not mine @Brian4Liberty :
    Yes, Ron Paul (and his ghost writers in some cases), has a varied, nuanced and complex view on border security and immigration. It is not black and white. And everyone has their favorite quotes, as has been shown over and over in the past. One quote does not tell the whole story, nor does does it imply 100% agreement with every other position of the person quoting him.

    And support for one “government” policy does not imply support for every other thing ever done by government. That is a fallacious argument.

    I’d wager that no one posting here supports checkpoints inside the US beyond the border, and supporting immigration control does not equate to supporting such unconstitutional tactics.
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  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    You see what the Democrats are doing here?

    Releasing (taking in) the women & children WHO QUALIFY FOR WELFARE

    and sending back the single men who would NOT QUALIFY FOR WELFARE (and might seek work).

    The Democrats want more immigration ON WELFARE so they can lock up the vote - forever.
    Yep, no dispute there at all. You clearly can see what the libs are doing and I agree.

    See what the "republicans" are doing? Contracts with domestic surveillance and police-state corporations, government eminent domain, elimination of private contract rights along the border and removal of property from private individuals and businesses, holding cells, processing centers to "sign them up!".

    Until you hold BOTH sides accountable and demand your representatives to end all Welfare, Corporate AND Domestic, the problem will continue from now to eternity.

    BOTH side are playing you, Snowball, at our expense, in terms of both dollars and freedom.
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  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I see. You are a Republican, not a small l libertarian. All Hail The Empire ;-)
    I will give you an heartfelt answer, im an American. Its the only place where we have the luxury of even pontificating any isms.
    https://archive.org/details/ancientl...40mbp/mode/2up
    We can most certainly can go backwards because thats whats happening, id rather take what works and make it better.

  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Ummm, it pretty much says exactly that in the very first line:

    "We the People of the United States"

    It does not say, "We the people of Haiti" or We the people of Trashcanistan" or "We the people of Belarus" or "We the people of China".

    Nor does it say "We the people of the world".
    That is the essence of this entire national debate. It is globalism vs. nationalism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes they do.

    And since the Almighty has long ago ceased poking directly into human affairs it is up to us to create institutions to protect those rights.

    You know the thing: "That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed".

    Full scale demographic invasion, orchestrated by Marxist revolutionaries in and out of government, is the most sure way to destroy those institutions.
    And that is the essence of disagreement among liberty minded people.

    Is a flood of immigrants a threat to you, your family, your property, your community, your job, your values? Will it negatively effect your life. At what point does your personal philosophy allow you to act against such a threat?

    Some people do not see it as a threat. They see it as an advantage. Many people make money from it. Follow the money. That is the probably the biggest underlying motivation.

    Some see it as a political advantage, even if in reality it is a threat to their current life. Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom may not be negatively effected in their protected elitist bubble, but your average Democrat in California is negatively effected, and complains constantly. They leave the state to escape it. Property values go so high they can't afford anything. There is overcrowding. Traffic and parking are insane. Crime increases. Garbage and bums increase. They even complain when demographic change (which they want, but doesn't go the way they want) pushes them out. Many of their wages stagnate. They just don't equate their own politics with the destruction of their lives.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 09-22-2021 at 12:16 PM.
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  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Yep, no dispute there at all. You clearly can see what the libs are doing and I agree.

    See what the "republicans" are doing? Contracts with domestic surveillance and police-state corporations, government eminent domain, elimination of private contract rights along the border and removal of property from private individuals and businesses, holding cells, processing centers to "sign them up!".

    Until you hold BOTH sides accountable and demand your representatives to end all Welfare, Corporate AND Domestic, the problem will continue from now to eternity.

    BOTH side are playing you, Snowball, at our expense, in terms of both dollars and freedom.
    Yeah, I know pal. Known it all my adult life, but still manage to somehow understand the illegal invasion must be stopped.
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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Trash. Are orphaned infants being used by the government to manipulate the levers of power? The blinders you have on are thick. Get this through your thick skull. They are not importing hundreds of thousands of refugees out of compassion.
    The whole reason that I responded in the way that I did is that you aren't referring to them as though they are people but rather objects.



    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    They are doing it to further consolidate power into the hands of anti-liberty despots.
    Wow, we'd better get rid of all of the liberty quickly so that they can't do it first.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Wow, we'd better get rid of all of the liberty quickly so that they can't do it first.
    Its not either or.... every country on the planet has borders, every country on the planet has an immigration policy. The USA has had immigration requirements since the early days of the republic. Borders are a national defense issue and a legitimate role of even a utopian libertarian government. We have immigration laws passed by democratically elected government.

    And I've made this point before, even if we follow Ron Pauls words, remove all the incentives for illegal immigration, reduce the size of government to his utopia vision, you can't remove the borders and remove all immigration requirements, because the USA would still be better than 99% of the world, and billions of people would rather live here than their $#@!hole countries. We would then have internal strife like you can't imagine, people fighting over limited resources etc. And the people that do come, don't share your political views, and then you get outnumbered and then they just institute big government socialism anyways. In fact you could argue that is how we strayed so far from the founders vision, more and more people from Europe and the rest of the world come here then boom income tax, boom federal reserve, boom fiat money, boom empire. The people that immigrated here after independence didn't share the founders view of government, and pretty quickly they outnumbered the libertarians, and they got the government they wanted and people like us here on RonPaulForums get screwed.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Wow, we'd better get rid of all of the liberty quickly so that they can't do it first.

    Except you vehemently oppose Ron Paul.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That is the essence of this entire national debate. It is globalism vs. nationalism.

    And that is the essence of disagreement among liberty minded people.

    Is a flood of immigrants a threat to you, your family, your property, your community, your job, your values? Will it negatively effect your life. At what point does your personal philosophy allow you to act against such a threat?

    Some people do not see it as a threat. They see it as an advantage. Many people make money from it. Follow the money. That is the probably the biggest underlying motivation.

    Some see it as a political advantage, even if in reality it is a threat to their current life. Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom may not be negatively effected in their protected elitist bubble, but your average Democrat in California is negatively effected, and complains constantly. They leave the state to escape it. Property values go so high they can't afford anything. There is overcrowding. Traffic and parking are insane. Crime increases. Garbage and bums increase. They even complain when demographic change (which they want, but doesn't go the way they want) pushes them out. Many of their wages stagnate. They just don't equate their own politics with the destruction of their lives.
    Exactly right, I owe ya a rep.

    I only disagree with the highlighted.

    Follow the money doesn't even work anymore, as the Marxist mob is willing to lose money to follow their plan with religious zeal.

    They want power and they want to genocide their enemies (us).

    Money to them is meaningless, other than as a means to the end.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  13. #101
    Mike Lee: Poor and Middle Class Suffer Most from Waves of Uncontrolled Illegal Immigration, Not the Rich

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021...-not-the-rich/

    Ian Hanchett 21 Sep 2021

    On Tuesday’s “Sean Hannity Show,” Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) argued that “the people who are most harmed by uncontrolled waves of illegal immigration are not the rich people, and they’re not the people living in New York and other big metropolitan centers in America.” Instead, “people who suffer most from them are poor, middle-class Americans, especially lower-income Americans who live on or near the U.S.-Mexico border.”

    Lee said, “You know what makes me sad, Sean, as someone who lived for two years on the U.S.-Mexico border as a young missionary thirty years ago? I can tell you that the people who are most directly impacted, the people who are most harmed by uncontrolled waves of illegal immigration are not the rich people, and they’re not the people living in New York and other big metropolitan centers in America. They’re — people who suffer most from them are poor, middle-class Americans, especially lower-income Americans who live on or near the U.S.-Mexico border. Every time they weaken these borders, it makes life difficult, makes the American Dream more unattainable for those people who are most vulnerable to that sort of thing, which is Americans, poor and middle class, especially on or near borders.”
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Exactly right, I owe ya a rep.

    I only disagree with the highlighted.

    Follow the money doesn't even work anymore, as the Marxist mob is willing to lose money to follow their plan with religious zeal.

    They want power and they want to genocide their enemies (us).

    Money to them is meaningless, other than as a means to the end.
    Yup. CONTROL is the end game. You can have money. With money you can influence those with power (politicians). But, to have CONTROL you must thoroughly crush any and all that dissent. Dissenters must be stripped of common bond. "No nation! No borders!"

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I’d wager that no one posting here supports checkpoints inside the US beyond the border...
    Would you? And would you also wager that no one here supports foreign aid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    No, not all of it or immediately.
    It can be used rightly for national interests in some cases.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    And support for one “government” policy does not imply support for every other thing ever done by government. That is a fallacious argument.

    I’d wager that no one posting here supports checkpoints inside the US beyond the border, and supporting immigration control does not equate to supporting such unconstitutional tactics.

    Don't be so sure about that.

    This is pretty telling:


    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The illegal will receive biometric recording and forever be banned. The host is also responsible for any crimes committed by the recipient of their sponsorship and will be responsible for restitution.

    So, if I get this right, @Brian4Liberty ,

    A host has a birthday party for their sweet 16/21, or maybe a 50th anniversary. Many people attend, some are relatives from out of the country. After the birthday or anniversary party is over, Alfonso goes back to the hotel, a couple of nights later he has a few stiff ones, Alfonso the individual decides to knock off a bank or rape some chick. Or maybe something along the lines of stumbling over and breaking a window. And now somehow I am responsible for this individual's actions, and I must pay restitution???

    How many constitutional violations can you list.
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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Exactly right, I owe ya a rep.

    I only disagree with the highlighted.

    Follow the money doesn't even work anymore, as the Marxist mob is willing to lose money to follow their plan with religious zeal.

    They want power and they want to genocide their enemies (us).

    Money to them is meaningless, other than as a means to the end.
    It doesn't explain the motivations of all, just some, especially those in the smoky backrooms of the crony kleptocracy who actually have a seat at the table to make policy.

    Think US Chamber of Commerce, Tech billionaires, Soros, DNC, Koch and beltway libertarians, cheap labor addicts, Catholic charities, etc, etc.

    Some people do not see it as a threat. They see it as an advantage. Many people make money from it. Follow the money. That is the probably the biggest underlying motivation.
    I'd agree that the highly visible and vocal Marxist mob just want complete destruction and that's a primary motivation, but the socialists also want free stuff, which is essentially money. They are useful idiots for the big money interests.
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  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Don't be so sure about that.
    If anyone wants to defend internal checkpoints not at the border, they are free to do it now.


    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    So, if I get this right, @Brian4Liberty ,

    A host has a birthday party for their sweet 16/21, or maybe a 50th anniversary. Many people attend, some are relatives from out of the country. After the birthday or anniversary party is over, Alfonso goes back to the hotel, a couple of nights later he has a few stiff ones, Alfonso the individual decides to knock off a bank or rape some chick. Or maybe something along the lines of stumbling over and breaking a window. And now somehow I am responsible for this individual's actions, and I must pay restitution???

    How many constitutional violations can you list.
    Sounds like a question for Phil.
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    If anyone wants to defend internal checkpoints not at the border, they are free to do it now.



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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The illegal will receive biometric recording and forever be banned. The host is also responsible for any crimes committed by the recipient of their sponsorship and will be responsible for restitution.

    So, if I get this right, @phill4paul

    A host has a birthday party for their sweet 16/21, or maybe a 50th anniversary. Many people attend, some are relatives from out of the country. After the birthday or anniversary party is over, Alfonso goes back to the hotel, a couple of nights later he has a few stiff ones, Alfonso the individual decides to knock off a bank or rape some chick. Or maybe something along the lines of stumbling over and breaking a window. And now somehow I am responsible for this individual's actions, and I must pay restitution???

    How many constitutional violations can you list.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Sounds like a question for Phil.

    Sounds like a question for Phil to ponder.
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  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Ummm, it pretty much says exactly that in the very first line:

    "We the People of the United States"

    It does not say, "We the people of Haiti" or We the people of Trashcanistan" or "We the people of Belarus" or "We the people of China".

    Nor does it say "We the people of the world".

    Sorry brother, but the preamble to the CONstitution makes no statement whatsoever regarding any particular rights being protected nor to whom such rights belong. In reality it's just a simple declarative statement claiming that it was "the people of the United States" who ordained and established the CONstitution, and it provides, in general terms, a statement of the purposes for which that was done. Nothing more. And, in truth, even that's a dubious claim since the overwhelming majority of "the people of the United States" had never even heard of the CONstitution prior to its ratification, let alone been afforded an opportunity to actually read any part of it or digest its meaning.
    Last edited by CCTelander; 09-22-2021 at 11:42 PM.
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  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Sorry brother, but the preamble to the CONstitution makes no statement whatsoever regarding any particular rights being protected nor to whom such rights belong. In reality it's just a simple declarative statement claiming that it was "the people of the United States" who ordained and established the CONstitution, and it provides, in general terms, a statement of the purposes for which that was done. Nothing more. And, in truth, even that's a dubious claim since the overwhelming majority of "the people of the United States" at that time had never even heard of the CONstitution, let alons been afforded an opportunity to actually read any part of it or digest its meaning.
    Truth!

    And the CONstitution was a Hamiltonian coupe to make a strong central government to basically rule the masses.
    There is no spoon.

  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I’d wager that no one posting here supports checkpoints inside the US beyond the border, and supporting immigration control does not equate to supporting such unconstitutional tactics.
    *sad trombone noises*


    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I say that they do and would be within their rights to restrict immigration form another state
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    The USA has had immigration requirements since the early days of the republic.
    No, that's simply not true. The USA has had naturalization requirements, not immigration requirements.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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  27. #113
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Don't be so sure about that.

    This is pretty telling:





    So, if I get this right, @Brian4Liberty ,

    A host has a birthday party for their sweet 16/21, or maybe a 50th anniversary. Many people attend, some are relatives from out of the country. After the birthday or anniversary party is over, Alfonso goes back to the hotel, a couple of nights later he has a few stiff ones, Alfonso the individual decides to knock off a bank or rape some chick. Or maybe something along the lines of stumbling over and breaking a window. And now somehow I am responsible for this individual's actions, and I must pay restitution???

    How many constitutional violations can you list.
    I'm talking about the host sponsoring an individual seeking citizenship until that individual becomes a citizen.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 09-23-2021 at 10:05 AM.

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm talking about the host sponsoring an individual seeking citizenship until that individual becomes a citizen.
    So then you agree that the Right to Travel Freely should exist, and "undocumented" people should not be "legalized" in order to qualify for .GOV bennies and/or pay federal income tax?
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  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    So then you agree that the Right to Travel Freely should exist, and "undocumented" people should not be "legalized" in order to qualify for .GOV bennies and/or pay federal income tax?
    Let me repost in total...

    10 yr. moratorium on admission of illegal trespassers. Period. Anyone crossing the border illegally will immediately be subject to a boot up their ass on the way back out. The illegal will receive biometric recording and forever be banned. Legal admissions only with sponsorship of an U.S. Citizen. As a host the citizen is responsible for everything. Medical, school, food, housing, etc. The host is also responsible for any crimes committed by the recipient of their sponsorship and will be responsible for restitution.

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Let me repost in total...

    10 yr. moratorium on admission of illegal trespassers. Period. Anyone crossing the border illegally will immediately be subject to a boot up their ass on the way back out. The illegal will receive biometric recording and forever be banned. Legal admissions only with sponsorship of an U.S. Citizen. As a host the citizen is responsible for everything. Medical, school, food, housing, etc. The host is also responsible for any crimes committed by the recipient of their sponsorship and will be responsible for restitution.
    I see. You voted for both Bush's, and proud of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    And support for one “government” policy does not imply support for every other thing ever done by government. That is a fallacious argument.

    I’d wager that no one posting here supports checkpoints inside the US beyond the border, and supporting immigration control does not equate to supporting such unconstitutional tactics.

    And there ya go, Brian.


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    Last edited by PAF; 09-23-2021 at 11:12 AM.
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  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I see. You voted for both Bush's, and proud of it.





    And there ya go, Brian.
    Now you're bending over backwards with the nonsense.

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Now you're bending over backwards with the nonsense.
    Nobody can or will ever accuse me of bending over.

    Your method does not solve the problem. In fact, it only makes it worse, while providing continued incentives, and growing the government.

    "Phill4Paul", please look over the site mission, and see if your screen name applies.
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  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Nobody can or will ever accuse me of bending over.

    Your method does not solve the problem. In fact, it only makes it worse, while providing continued incentives, and growing the government.

    "Phill4Paul", please look over the site mission, and see if your screen name applies.
    There’s no question our country has been enriched by those who come to our country seeking the American Dream and a chance at a better life.

    But millions of illegal immigrants continually crossing our border without our knowledge threatens our national security.

    That’s why, as a U.S. Senator, I’ve opposed amnesty and fought hard to secure our borders while most in Washington, D.C. offer nothing but talk.

    SECURE THE BORDERS. NO MORE GAMES.
    https://www.randpaul.com/issues/immigration

    Immigrants who seek to enter our country must do so legally. Most immigrants enter this country to find work and to create a better life for themselves and their families. However, illegal immigration strains federal resources and threatens our national security.

    I oppose illegal immigration and will work to secure our borders. I will also work to end taxpayer-funded programs for illegal immigrants. American taxpayers should not be forced to pay for illegal immigrants’ welfare, medical care, and other benefits that encourage illegal immigration.
    https://massie.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=112051



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