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    'Hello. My name is Ed Snowden'

    Statement from wikileaks on behalf of Snowden:

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    Hello. My name is Ed Snowden. A little over one month ago, I had family, a home in paradise, and I lived in great comfort. I also had the capability without any warrant to search for, seize, and read your communications. Anyone’s communications at any time. That is the power to change people’s fates.

    It is also a serious violation of the law. The 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of my country, Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and numerous statutes and treaties forbid such systems of massive, pervasive surveillance. While the US Constitution marks these programs as illegal, my government argues that secret court rulings, which the world is not permitted to see, somehow legitimize an illegal affair. These rulings simply corrupt the most basic notion of justice – that it must be seen to be done. The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.

    I believe in the principle declared at Nuremberg in 1945: "Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."

    Accordingly, I did what I believed right and began a campaign to correct this wrongdoing. I did not seek to enrich myself. I did not seek to sell US secrets. I did not partner with any foreign government to guarantee my safety. Instead, I took what I knew to the public, so what affects all of us can be discussed by all of us in the light of day, and I asked the world for justice.

    That moral decision to tell the public about spying that affects all of us has been costly, but it was the right thing to do and I have no regrets.

    Since that time, the government and intelligence services of the United States of America have attempted to make an example of me, a warning to all others who might speak out as I have. I have been made stateless and hounded for my act of political expression. The United States Government has placed me on no-fly lists. It demanded Hong Kong return me outside of the framework of its laws, in direct violation of the principle of non-refoulement – the Law of Nations. It has threatened with sanctions countries who would stand up for my human rights and the UN asylum system. It has even taken the unprecedented step of ordering military allies to ground a Latin American president’s plane in search for a political refugee. These dangerous escalations represent a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America, but to the basic rights shared by every person, every nation, to live free from persecution, and to seek and enjoy asylum.


    Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders.


    I announce today my formal acceptance of all offers of support or asylum I have been extended and all others that may be offered in the future. With, for example, the grant of asylum provided by Venezuela’s President Maduro, my asylee status is now formal, and no state has a basis by which to limit or interfere with my right to enjoy that asylum. As we have seen, however, some governments in Western European and North American states have demonstrated a willingness to act outside the law, and this behavior persists today. This unlawful threat makes it impossible for me to travel to Latin America and enjoy the asylum granted there in accordance with our shared rights.


    This willingness by powerful states to act extra-legally represents a threat to all of us, and must not be allowed to succeed. Accordingly, I ask for your assistance in requesting guarantees of safe passage from the relevant nations in securing my travel to Latin America, as well as requesting asylum in Russia until such time as these states accede to law and my legal travel is permitted. I will be submitting my request to Russia today, and hope it will be accepted favorably.


    If you have any questions, I will answer what I can.


    Thank you.
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    What a hero this guy is huh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    What a hero this guy is huh.
    Understatement, much respect for this man.

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    Do you have a link, please, Warlord?
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    W.O.W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Do you have a link, please, Warlord?
    http://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Ed...nowden-to.html

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    Full link:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...atement-moscow

    He is a great libertarian. The first few paragraphs made me tear up as well. Especially invoking Nuremberg.
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    He is a better American than those who seek his capture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Made me tear up.
    Joined you in that. Chills!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    He is a better American than those who seek his capture.
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    Wow...well said Edward!

    If that masterpiece doesn't change the public opinion of those who consider him a traitor then I guess nothing else can.
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    The Dude deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    He is a better American than those who seek his capture.
    They are not Americans. Globalist mercs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad cow View Post
    The Dude deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
    Let's give him Obama's
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    I think Ronald Reagan was wrong on the "EVIL EMPIRE" thingy... There are many, and it appears today, the US Government has become the planets dominate Evil Empire of; Human Rights Violations, Bribery, Coercion, Subversion, Blackmail, Racketeering, Fraud, Oppression, and that's before we even get into the subject of; Drones, Kill Lists, Bombings, Assasinations, overthrowing governments, overthrowing nations, disinformation campaigns, propaganda... on & on.

    Don't think so? ...Amnesty International just met with Snowden
    http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/amnes...den-2013-07-12

    12 July 2013

    Amnesty International meets US whistleblower Edward Snowden

    The US authorities have charged Edward Snowden under the Espionage Act.
    © The Guardian via Getty Images
    “Amnesty International was pleased to reiterate our support for Edward Snowden in person. We will continue to pressure governments to ensure his rights are respected - this includes the unassailable right to claim asylum wherever he may choose. ”

    Sergei Nikitin, Head of Amnesty International's Moscow office

    Amnesty International met with US whistleblower Edward Snowden at Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport on Friday. Sergei Nikitin, Head of Amnesty International's Moscow office, who was at the meeting said:
    “Amnesty International was pleased to reiterate our support for Edward Snowden in person. We will continue to pressure governments to ensure his rights are respected - this includes the unassailable right to claim asylum wherever he may choose.
    “What he has disclosed is patently in the public interest and as a whistleblower his actions were justified. He has exposed unlawful sweeping surveillance programmes that unquestionably interfere with an individual’s right to privacy.
    “States that attempt to stop a person from revealing such unlawful behaviour are flouting international law. Freedom of expression is a fundamental right.

    “Instead of addressing or even owning up to these blatant breaches, the US government is more intent on persecuting him. Attempts to pressure governments to block his efforts to seek asylum are deplorable.”
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    For those who haven't heard about it, here's the Obama whistleblower protection policy that can be found on Obama's own website at change.gov

    Protect Whistleblowers: Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government. Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Made me tear up.
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    Let's give him Obama's
    I am totally tweeting that.

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    that's hilarious q4. needed a laugh thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddee View Post
    I think it is great that Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are involved.

    The administration is going ape $#@!.... As these organizations only get involved with puppet regimes and human rights abusers. Tough pill to swallow when you are now deemed the aggressor and the biggest threat to liberty in the world.

    I had the money to get out... Hopefully my brothers still behind the lines will be offered some sort of refugee status and amnesty to escape the regime at some point.

    Until the world recognizes the beast is out of control we are all doomed.
    We should all start applying for amnesty as a form of protest.
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    Not tearing up here.

    More and more this is making me wonder.

    On the one hand he could be genuine.

    On the other he could be working a scam to trip off a world war. A world war that everyone rallies to the cause but doesn't realize there no longer is a right side.

    We have already passed the point there are independent world governments except for about three or four countries that aren't control by a global system of central banks. The only thing left seems to me is for them to show the world there is no other but the one world order. That could be what this new world war will be about.

    It may allow them to round up those of us that may have a problem with this. It seems to me that would eventually annihilate everyone. First the educated that see a problem with global governance. Then the those that embrace the new socialism by a slow starvation.

    Anyway back to Snowden.

    Isn't it odd that of all of the people that came forward about the spying on us, THIS time the media makes sure everyone has heard about it?

    It also seems now that if Snowden excepts an invitation to stay in Russia that he has played his cards out. Hasn't it been said he has to stop his operations if he does? The world still can respond while Snowden can fade away.

    If this part of a plan new revelations will come out to stir the masses. Maybe not about spying but I thinking some mind blowing things one after the other on into November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Full link:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...atement-moscow

    He is a great libertarian. The first few paragraphs made me tear up as well. Especially invoking Nuremberg.
    I wish he would have left that out, there was no justice at Nuremberg. The prisoners were tortured to confess to whatever their torturers wanted them to confess to.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    Not tearing up here.

    More and more this is making me wonder.

    On the one hand he could be genuine.

    On the other he could be working a scam to trip off a world war. A world war that everyone rallies to the cause but doesn't realize there no longer is a right side.

    We have already passed the point there are independent world governments except for about three or four countries that aren't control by a global system of central banks. The only thing left seems to me is for them to show the world there is no other but the one world order. That could be what this new world war will be about.

    It may allow them to round up those of us that may have a problem with this. It seems to me that would eventually annihilate everyone. First the educated that see a problem with global governance. Then the those that embrace the new socialism by a slow starvation.

    Anyway back to Snowden.

    Isn't it odd that of all of the people that came forward about the spying on us, THIS time the media makes sure everyone has heard about it?

    It also seems now that if Snowden excepts an invitation to stay in Russia that he has played his cards out. Hasn't it been said he has to stop his operations if he does? The world still can respond while Snowden can fade away.

    If this part of a plan new revelations will come out to stir the masses. Maybe not about spying but I thinking some mind blowing things one after the other on into November.
    I disagree regarding the media coverage. It has not gotten 1/10th the coverage the Zimmerman trial has and the story is 1000x more important. At least from what I've seen, the MSM is virtually silent.

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    I don't watch TV media on that part of it, but I think it is of import that this was broken in the Guardian. The whole WORLD knew, so the MSM couldn't even pretend it didn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghengis86 View Post
    I disagree regarding the media coverage. It has not gotten 1/10th the coverage the Zimmerman trial has and the story is 1000x more important. At least from what I've seen, the MSM is virtually silent.
    The thing I said that has been bugging me is the,

    "It also seems now that if Snowden excepts an invitation to stay in Russia that he has played his cards out. Hasn't it been said he has to stop his operations if he does? The world still can respond while Snowden can fade away."

    It's the fade away part. I don't think I'll ever forget him. Still other things may move into center stage. And I think when I said it I meant it as the presure would be lifting off of him.

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    American needs him. He should be Rand Paul's running mate.



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