Is Martial Law likely in the USA?

[timosman]

If the Dems up the ante after losing November elections I would not be surprised if we see Martial Law before Christmas.

[Zippyjuan]

Alex Jones promised us that Obama would take care of that for us. We should have martial law by at least 2010.

[jkr]

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[oyarde]

I dunno . First you have to decide what type of event would cause that reaction then decide if it is likely . Myself , I will not be participating to help the rabble or the tyrants . I will be ready , waiting patiently , hoping people have someone else to bother than me .

[oyarde]

Alex Jones promised us that Obama would take care of that for us. We should have martial law by at least 2010.

We really do not know what the secret goals of a deep and far leftist like Obama could be . His hero could be Mao or something . When I was a kid most kids just wanted to be a cowboy .

[gaazn]

Doesn't matter who is in power, but technological advances make martial law likely in the future as long as there is government. Only thing the people seem to care about is for government to take more power every time a black swan shows up.

[Republicanguy]

If the Dems up the ante after losing November elections I would not be surprised if we see Martial Law before Christmas.

More likely, an energy crisis in my view, than ever Martial law.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

No.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

More likely, an energy crisis in my view, than ever Martial law.

Energy crisis? We're in the middle of a massive energy boom.

[Swordsmyth]

More likely, an energy crisis in my view, than ever Martial law.

Then I will expect martial law long before an energy crisis.

[Republicanguy]

Energy crisis? We're in the middle of a massive energy boom.

That shale won't last. Cheap energy is what made the country thrive. It was Marion Hubbert who got it right and wrong about energy.

[Zippyjuan]

Energy crisis? We're in the middle of a massive energy boom.

The problem with oil shale is that each well taps only a small amount of oil. What can be extracted drops considerably after just a couple of years. Then just to keep production the same, you need to drill more wells in a different area. How long can that go on?

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oi...Last-Long.html

But the long-term is another question. The Post Carbon Institute says that the EIA’s assumption of strong growth for the next several decades assumes that the industry will produce all proven oil and gas reserves, “plus a high percentage of unproven resources — in some cases over 100% — by 2050.” Shale oil production, according to the EIA’s 2017 Annual Energy Outlook, won’t peak until the 2040s.

The report says that scenario is extremely optimistic, and as such, probably won’t happen. The report breaks down the major shale plays to explain why. The Bakken, for instance, is already showing some signs of wear. “Well productivity improvements have flat-lined or decreased in all but two counties, indicating available well locations are running out,” the Post Carbon Institute report argues.

The Eagle Ford is also strained. The report says that the EIA is overstating its potential, with high well density and high depletion rates likely to limit the region’s ability to keep production elevated through the 2040s. “The EIA has overestimated play area by 65% compared to the current prospective drilled area,” the report says.

While the Permian is prolific, the report says that the EIA’s long-term assumptions for the Wolfcamp, for instance, rest on “vast additional, as-yet-unknown, resources” to be recovered.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

... an energy crisis in my view,....

How long can that go on?

Typical progressives/attention whores trying to sell everyone on the next big "crisis." And, of course, we need government to address this "crisis!"

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

That shale won't last. Cheap energy is what made the country thrive. It was Marion Hubbert who got it right and wrong about energy.

The problem with oil shale is that each well taps only a small amount of oil. What can be extracted drops considerably after just a couple of years. Then just to keep production the same, you need to drill more wells in a different area. How long can that go on?

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oi...Last-Long.html

We are not going to be low on oil any time this century and nuclear and even solar power continue to become more and more efficient. If there's an energy crisis, it will only happen due to mismanagement and bad governance, not the nature of the resources themselves.

[r3volution 3.0]

Well, first, you've all been trolled by the OP.

That aside, we might divide "martial law" theories into two types:

1. The liberty-loving people will rise up against the tyrannical state, and the latter will react with FEMA camps, et al. This is the sort of thing that Alex Jones and a thousand other hucksters on youtube promote. The enemy started as the "New World Order" and now, I suppose, it's "the Deep State" or "the Globalists," or - for the more Stormfront-inclined, "ZOG." So there's that, which is nonsense primarily because the people have no desire for liberty, and so the politicians have no need to do anything more radical than keep getting reelected, to wild applause.

2. More realistically, the gradual break-down of democratic politics will, coupled with some severe economic crisis as is bound to come along sooner or later, eventually create the circumstances under which democratic states always fail. We might look to Germany, Austria, Italy, even the US in the 1930s (during which time things very nearly went even more terribly awry than they actually did). This would be civil strife of some kind between the idiot socialists of the left and the idiot socialists of the right. Depending on what kind of government exists, something like "martial law" might develop.

[Aratus]

Odds are, if a real life "zombie virus" outbreak hits the U.S, lets expect martial law.
This weekend season 9 of THE WALKING DEAD starts ...Also DOCTOR WHO is back.

[shakey1]

Think they'll have wifi at the detention camps?



ooo... nice recliner.

[CaptUSA]

I dunno . First you have to decide what type of event would cause that reaction then decide if it is likely . Myself , I will not be participating to help the rabble or the tyrants . I will be ready , waiting patiently , hoping people have someone else to bother than me .

Indian wisdom.

[TheCount]

Well, first, you've all been trolled by the OP.

That aside, we might divide "martial law" theories into two types:

1. The liberty-loving people will rise up against the tyrannical state, and the latter will react with FEMA camps, et al. This is the sort of thing that Alex Jones and a thousand other hucksters on youtube promote. The enemy started as the "New World Order" and now, I suppose, it's "the Deep State" or "the Globalists," or - for the more Stormfront-inclined, "ZOG." So there's that, which is nonsense primarily because the people have no desire for liberty, and so the politicians have no need to do anything more radical than keep getting reelected, to wild applause.

2. More realistically, the gradual break-down of democratic politics will, coupled with some severe economic crisis as is bound to come along sooner or later, eventually create the circumstances under which democratic states always fail. We might look to Germany, Austria, Italy, even the US in the 1930s (during which time things very nearly went even more terribly awry than they actually did). This would be civil strife of some kind between the idiot socialists of the left and the idiot socialists of the right. Depending on what kind of government exists, something like "martial law" might develop.

#3: The people will be persuaded, over a period of time, that they are under attack from various threats, and that some incremental movements towards martial law are required. Each time the people are presented with a new threat, they enact further restrictions on freedoms, but without revoking the previous (and allegedly temporary) measures. The people will, therefore, vote themselves into a state of martial law without any substantial resistance.

[pcosmar]

That shale won't last. Cheap energy is what made the country thrive.

silly Brit,, Energy does not=oil.

[pcosmar]

How long can that go on?

as long as it is profitable.

But we have coal in the ground for hundreds of years,, we have natural and constant winds that can be harvested..

Solar cell technology is improving as well.. and Solar shingles could make every home a generator.

The times they are a'changin'