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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    You've personally polled a majority of each state's citizens then? Or you've seen what's on the carefully manicured reality box?
    It's not my "carefully manicured reality box" that's the problem. I'm not the one that believes America needs to become a Socialist nation with open borders and unicorns and rainbows for all except those of differing opinions that need to be "cancel cultured."



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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    It's not my "carefully manicured reality box" that's the problem. I'm not the one that believes America needs to become a Socialist nation with open borders and unicorns and rainbows for all except those of differing opinions that need to be "cancel cultured."
    Read what pcosmar said, again.

    Who are you going to believe, the MSM talking head in that reality box, or Pete?

    Time to choose. Time to call one or the other a liar.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-23-2021 at 11:44 AM.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Read what pcosmar said, again.

    Who are you going to believe, the MSM talking head in that reality box, or Pete?

    Time to choose. Time to call one or the other a liar.
    Do you think that my friends or family are entirely comprised those on the Right side? Hurray, Pete found two. <shrug>

  5. #124
    We want what's coming to be simple. We want uniforms and insignia. It won't be simple.

    The real enemy is outnumbered, and they are starting this fight in the firm belief that they can fool We, the People into knocking each other off. They want us to thin our own ranks before they come for all of us in the usual bipartisan manner.

    If that happens, they win. Period. End of sentence.

    Why are we even thinking of playing by their rules? Instead...

    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-23-2021 at 12:15 PM.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    We want what's coming to be simple. We want uniforms and insignia. It won't be simple.

    The real enemy is outnumbered, and they are starting this fight in the firm belief that they can fool We, the People into knocking each other off. They want us to thin our own ranks before they come for all of us in the usual bipartisan manner.

    If that happens, they win. Period. End of sentence.

    Why are we even thinking of playing by their rules? Instead...

    This is the most important battle, to make folks that have been trained to fight each other for centuries realize they both should be looking at the ones pulling the strings instead. It's a battle that goes against generation upon generation of division.
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    This is the most important battle, to make folks that have been trained to fight each other for centuries realize they both should be looking at the ones pulling the strings instead. It's a battle that goes against generation upon generation of division.
    The elites rule over the plebs through lies has been going on for thousands of years. For the most part they always win. I think it is probably worse now due to the amount of information avenues the elites have to condition the people with their propaganda. This allows them to also easily control the opposition so they always maintain control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    To say, "if/when these people come for me then I will fight" is a whole lot different than "we need to radicalize and go after these crazies before they can do the same to us".
    They are already coming after all of us. This is not an IF. This is not a WHEN. They have declared war against you already. DUCY
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    When I was stranded in Oregon,,for the last election I met several Local Farmers,,lifelong Democrats,,that were voting for Trump because they could not stand Hillary..

    Conservative democrats have not been seen nor heard in a while.

    The Whack Jobs are at the Helm.

    and the Bernie Bros are Still Trashing everything in an On Going Temper Tantrum.
    This is my point. They've already left the party.

    There is no one left in the Democratic party who are reliable democratic voters who are not either themselves far radical left or sympathizers of the far radical left. There are no moderate democrats, no conservative democrats, and no centrist democrats.

    Those who are left are the ones who would gladly (and probably already have) disown their entire families, divorce their partners, or demand that their co-workers be fired over their political thoughts. They truly believe that you should be silenced, that your opinions not be allowed, and that your access to the market place should be limited.
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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    I work/live/etc with them too and I refute everything you just said. IMO you've been brainwashed against them as much as they've been brainwashed against you, if anything.
    You are wrong. End of story.

    And, no, I haven't been brainwashed. I'm not asserting that these are bad people. I honestly don't even think you are reading what I'm writing. I'm just telling you that the Democratic party is no longer what you think it is, and those who are still left in it are not who you think they are. The demographics have shifted, the pendulum swung.
    Last edited by fcreature; 01-23-2021 at 01:59 PM.

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    You are wrong. End of story.

    And, no, I haven't been brainwashed. I'm not asserting that these are bad people. I honestly don't even think you are reading what I'm writing. I'm just telling you that the Democratic party is no longer what you think it is, and those who are still left in it are not who you think they are.
    You should assert they are bad people since that is exactly what they are. Don't let their flow of information on you to condition you otherwise to the truth.

    Same as the Republican party. They are mostly all bad people. The good are not able to do anything and if they open their mouth about various truths they are attacked, blackmailed and threatened every which way to comply with the belief system of the elites or should I say American Royalty or Globalist Royalty. This is how the CEO's see themselves, behave and treat the commoners, as if they are royalty. People just don't see the truth since they control every aspect of information people consume.

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    You are wrong.
    This is much ado about nothing.

    Either Democrats aren't an amorphous, intolerant blob marching in lockstep and looking for blood, or 85% of the population have abandoned both parties and are now independents.

    What difference does it make? Anyone who imagines each and every one of Biden's alleged 81 million voters is a zombie with designs on your brain is not thinking clearly.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    This is my point. They've already left the party.

    There is no one left in the Democratic party who are reliable democratic voters who are not either themselves far radical left or sympathizers of the far radical left. There are no moderate democrats, no conservative democrats, and no centrist democrats.

    Those who are left are the ones who would gladly (and probably already have) disown their entire families, divorce their partners, or demand that their co-workers be fired over their political thoughts. They truly believe that you should be silenced, that your opinions not be allowed, and that your access to the market place should be limited.
    This. To a one, those that I still know that haven't disowned or de-friended me, I have not disowned or de-friended a one, but I'm a heretic, so....

    1) The Bundy's and their supporters at Bunkerville should have been brought down by the U.S. Military. They were treasonous white supremacist militia traitors.
    2) Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist domestic terrorist and should be executed.
    3) If you voted for, or given any vocal support for, Trump, you are a raciss, whether you know it or not, and all those that believe like you are traitors for supporting his insurrection at the Capitol. You are "aiding and abetting" treasonous white supremacist militia traitors.

    Every, single, Democrat I still know. Now there may be moderate Independents. But, NOT Democrats. Now there may be a handful out there somewhere. More than likely they haven't bothered to change over to an Independent.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 01-23-2021 at 02:25 PM.

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    To say, "if/when these people come for me then I will fight" is a whole lot different than "we need to radicalize and go after these crazies before they can do the same to us".
    They already did come for us. Long ago. They came, they took, and left only a shell.
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  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    As of now you're assuming and wanting everyone else to assume, that the 95% of regular people that consider themselves D's are as extreme as the 5% that is concentrated on through all media. Just the same as everyone on the other side being told all day every day that all people who aren't D's are just as bad as the 5% of the alt right crazies they concentrate on through all media.

    Americans are going to have to put down the team mentality, and it has to start somewhere. Here really quick, that 95% I mentioned are going to start getting swept up in what's coming. If we take the route of branding all of them beyond hope now, there's no chance they work with us when they finally do wake up.
    If 95% of Democrats were reasonable, they wouldnt be making a concerted effort to suppress free speech, to the point where you're no longer allowed to say "the election was stolen", without fear of impeachment, harassment, death threats, deplatforming, etc.

    First amendment at this point no longer exists. 2nd is barely hanging on. And you call these people "reasonable"?
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If 95% of Democrats were reasonable, they wouldnt be making a concerted effort to suppress free speech, to the point where you're no longer allowed to say "the election was stolen", without fear of impeachment, harassment, death threats, deplatforming, etc.

    First amendment at this point no longer exists. 2nd is barely hanging on. And you call these people "reasonable"?
    They are not reasonable , nor will they ever be.

  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    And what I'm saying is that a lot of people that consider themselves D's will open their eyes finally once the show really gets underway. You want to just paint them right now as lost causes. Well friend, you're cutting out a large portion of your help in the future by doing so. If you truly believe what you are saying, please take time to really assess that, but it's true. In the near future, those you once looked at as enemies are going to be running from the same boogieman you are. Make enemies once and for all now, that's less help for you when the boot comes for everyone.
    The majority are lost causes.

    This idea that people can be "educated" or "open their eyes" or "wake up" is almost entirely a $#@!ing myth.

    The vast majority of people are set in their ways, and believe with just as much conviction in their ideals as you hold yours.

    They aren't going to wake up.

    Separate, or die, are the only two options.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The majority are lost causes.

    This idea that people can be "educated" or "open their eyes" or "wake up" is almost entirely a $#@!ing myth.

    The vast majority of people are set in their ways, and believe with just as much conviction in their ideals as you hold yours.

    They aren't going to wake up.

    Separate, or die, are the only two options.
    Youre right. Many will NOT wake up or open their eyes. Not until it is probably too late. And perhaps THAT is exactly what this is gonna take.

    See, I really believe that those in power have already made the decision for the people who let them walk all over everyone. Those in power have CHOSEN DEATH for a very high percentage of the population, world wide. If that is what it takes for people "wake up" then so be it. When it is THEIR OWN family, friends, and neighbors being hauled off to the US version of Internment Camps (which is now what they are pushing), then they STILL "might" wake up, but when it is THEM they have NO CHOICE but to wake up and see exactly how bad things are.

    One thing we all need to face is that A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA DIE VERY SOON and at the hands of their own government.

    In the 20th century, governments have killed more people than all car accidents and shootings and fatal stabbings etc COMBINED. That should be a lesson to most of these people but it isnt. Why? What we are saying is reality, or as close to reality as we can get is so absolutely $#@!ing terrifying that people CHOOSE to go back to sleep or to cower in a corner somewhere than to face the fact that they are about to be MURDERED. En Masse. Starvation or Virus or Sterilization or Gunpoint or Nukes, it makes very little difference to those that want us dead so long as we die.

    I think we here on the RPF.com website are being rather loud about this because we dont want to see a single person die. We want justice. Like the kind that is wrought in a Court of Law, where the Real Criminals who have stolen our election and plotted and planned our deaths in a True Conspiracy against We The People are given proper fair and legal trials. Not mob rule. Not Civil or even Global War, but a Court of Law. If we have had equal application of the Law, where blacks were not suppressed (which we know many are), and equal application of the Law when Antifa was actively involved in starting Riots, then we would not be in the situation we are today.
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  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    They are already coming after all of us. This is not an IF. This is not a WHEN. They have declared war against you already. DUCY
    The ones going after EVERYONE yes I will agree with you on that, but not rank and file citizens that just happen to believe in a more left leaning political system. Y'all are itching to go after them with the same zeal you should be looking at the international policy centers with.
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  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    It's not my "carefully manicured reality box" that's the problem. I'm not the one that believes America needs to become a Socialist nation with open borders and unicorns and rainbows for all except those of differing opinions that need to be "cancel cultured."
    Is that just a straw man? Or can you provide a quote from anyone here advocating those things?

  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If 95% of Democrats were reasonable, they wouldnt be making a concerted effort to suppress free speech, to the point where you're no longer allowed to say "the election was stolen", without fear of impeachment, harassment, death threats, deplatforming, etc.

    First amendment at this point no longer exists. 2nd is barely hanging on. And you call these people "reasonable"?
    I wish we lived in close proximity, I would offer to buy you lunch if you came out with me anywhere to question the public on this. Online and in real life face to face are completely different worlds. Real people in the real world aren't worried if some republican can or can't post something online. All they care abut at their core, just the same as middle of the road republicans, is to be able to provide a life for themselves that makes them happy.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

  24. #141
    The same groups that supported Lenin, Kerensky and Trotsky to overthrow Christian Russia in 1917
    are now trying to overthrow Vladimir Putin. They don't even care if they kill us to get what they want.
    It's always been this way. Christ told us who they are. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.



    Now it's happening again.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ffd_story.html
    Last edited by Snowball; 01-23-2021 at 05:32 PM.

  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Is that just a straw man? Or can you provide a quote from anyone here advocating those things?
    We are talking about Democrats as a whole. C'mon man, catch up.

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    We are talking about Democrats as a whole. C'mon man, catch up.
    Gotcha. I thought you meant Belian78.

  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    The ones going after EVERYONE yes I will agree with you on that, but not rank and file citizens that just happen to believe in a more left leaning political system. Y'all are itching to go after them with the same zeal you should be looking at the international policy centers with.
    And they are becoming a MAJORITY. Through Fed. Gov. school inculcation, Hollyweird inculcation, M$M inculcation, social media inculcation, big tech inculcation, political theater inculcation. They are not the hippies that became Democrats in the '60's that hated war and just wanted to be left alone by Fed. Gov. The ones that distrusted the C.I.A. and the F.B.I.. The one's that distrusted "the man." Now they whole-heartedly embrace him. As long as "the man" does their bidding to usher in their agenda. And they want and vote for "the man" that is a Socialist/Commie.
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  29. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    I wish we lived in close proximity, I would offer to buy you lunch if you came out with me anywhere to question the public on this. Online and in real life face to face are completely different worlds. Real people in the real world aren't worried if some republican can or can't post something online. All they care abut at their core, just the same as middle of the road republicans, is to be able to provide a life for themselves that makes them happy.
    "The public" =/= Democrats. I could equally take you to a once wonderful city that was once a Democrat, made up of '60's hippies, stronghold in a blue state ,that is now full on Anarcho-Communists. And the Democrat leaders are expected to toe the line. It's become a thorough $#@!hole. Which is a shame, because once upon a time I had no problem with hanging out with hippies, smoking some grass, enjoying a cigar and talking...well anything. If you were to admit to anything supportive of conservative beliefs now you'd get downright assaulted. Seriously. If you had a Trump sticker on your vehicle instead of a "Wiccan/Coexist" you'd get the $#@! keyed out of it. IF you were lucky.

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    And they are becoming a MAJORITY. Through Fed. Gov. school inculcation, Hollyweird inculcation, M$M inculcation, social media inculcation, big tech inculcation, political theater inculcation. They are not the hippies that became Democrats in the '60's that hated war and just wanted to be left alone by Fed. Gov. The ones that distrusted the C.I.A. and the F.B.I.. The one's that distrusted "the man." Now they whole-heartedly embrace him. As long as "the man" does their bidding to usher in their agenda. And they want and vote for "the man" that is a Socialist/Commie.
    A large segment of the population are like empty vessels to be filled with information the elites feed them. The elites feed them Communist philosophy over the course of their life time and they do not question it. There is no effort at internal thought how what they support today contradicts the peace and love movement from the past.

    Same thing with people who defend whoever the (R) candidate is or are unable to take being exposed to any Trump or (R) candidate contradictions in policy. They have very short news cycle attention spans, take information without question since anything else would break their belief of who they are and society as a whole.
    Last edited by kahless; 01-23-2021 at 06:16 PM.

  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    A large segment of the population are like empty vessels to be filled with information the elites feed them. The elites feed them Communist philosophy over the course of their life time and they do not question it. There is no effort at internal thought how what they support today contradicts the peace and love movement from the past.

    Same thing with people who defend whoever the (R) candidate is or are unable to take being exposed to any Trump or (R) candidate contradictions in policy. They have very short news cycle attention spans, take information without question since anything else would break their belief of who they are and society as a whole.
    And you have NO method or ability to stop it. None. Neither you nor belian. I'm 56 years old. I'm TALKING about those that once believed in the "peace and love movement from the past." They are vapid anti-conservatives and want nothing more than to see conservatives dead. Friends and family I've known for years. They DEMAND the government to inculcate trans-genderism as a norm. They DEMAND government to give free post K-12 education. They DEMAND free healthcare. And they DEMAND free tampons.
    They WANT a Democracy, and by Democracy they mean an Socialist democracy, not an Republic.
    Most conservatives I know truly do want to be left the $#@! alone. You WILL NOT find that on the left.

  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    And you have NO method or ability to stop it. None. Neither you nor belian. I'm 56 years old. I'm TALKING about those that once believed in the "peace and love movement from the past." They are vapid anti-conservatives and want nothing more than to see conservatives dead. Friends and family I've known for years. They DEMAND the government to inculcate trans-genderism as a norm. They DEMAND government to give free post K-12 education. They DEMAND free healthcare. And they DEMAND free tampons.
    They WANT a Democracy, and by Democracy they mean an Socialist democracy, not an Republic.
    Most conservatives I know truly do want to be left the $#@! alone. You WILL NOT find that on the left.
    True and I am the same age btw. I think that people need to start recognizing what I said above otherwise nothing is going to change. The elites control the narrative including always co-opting the opposition. Educating people on this and undermining their propaganda efforts is paramount to stopping the further slide to totalitarianism and at least creating factions that resist to the point of establishing free regions within the US outside of their control.

    I think leading by that kind of example as a shining light could be a necessary step since there is no ability to take the country as a whole when they literally control all forms of information.

    The shining light I would expect to stand for something like the rights of the individual are held in highest regard.

    - Right for individuals to hold private property. Contrary to elites brainwashing of the masses the ownership of private property is not allowed in the US due to the property tax requirement. Thus we are not living in a free society.

    - No laws on the right to bear arms

    - No limits on speech.

    - Exclusion of monopolies so there is healthy free market competition. Therefore limits of free speech or platform bans would not be an issue since the likes of Google and Amazon would be dealt with.

    - No restrictions on retail private property rights. (government having no right to close a business or ability to force businesses to accept all customers)

    - Privatization of police. If a community, business or residential requires security then they can contract with competing firms.

    - No restrictions on currency. Currency competition without restriction.

    - Government out of occupational licensing. Let the free market provide certifications allow consumers to decide who they do and do not want certified.

    - Government out of the business of marriage and families.

    In a free society none of these things I listed should be an issue and that is just scratching the surface. It blows the mind that people have been brainwashed to believe the US is a free country and not a totalitarian regime due to limits and restrictions on the above.
    Last edited by kahless; 01-23-2021 at 07:26 PM.

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    I wish we lived in close proximity, I would offer to buy you lunch if you came out with me anywhere to question the public on this. Online and in real life face to face are completely different worlds. Real people in the real world aren't worried if some republican can or can't post something online. All they care abut at their core, just the same as middle of the road republicans, is to be able to provide a life for themselves that makes them happy.
    You're correct about the average person's priorities. Their priority is to provide a life for themselves that makes them happy. They generally don't care about politics, or whether Republicans can or can't post something online.

    Because they know that they have very little control over national politics and as such they pay very little attention to it.

    That does not mean however they are not petty tyrants who would without hesitation implement these exact same policies if they were the ones who had the power to do so.

    They vote the way that they do, because they believe in these policies.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 01-23-2021 at 07:21 PM.
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  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    True and I am the same age btw. I think that people need to start recognizing what I said above otherwise nothing is going to change. The elites control the narrative including always co-opting the opposition. Educating people on this and undermining their propaganda efforts is paramount to stopping the further slide to totalitarianism and at least creating factions that resist to the point of establishing free regions within the US outside of their control.

    I think leading by that kind of example as a shining light could be a necessary step since there is no ability to take the country as a whole when they literally control all forms of information.

    The shining light I would expect to stand for something like the rights of the individual are held in highest regard.

    - Right for individuals to hold private property. Contrary to elites brainwashing of the masses the ownership of private property is not allowed in the US due to the property tax requirement. Thus we are not living in a free society.

    - No laws on the right to bear arms

    - No limits on speech.

    - Exclusion of monopolies so there is healthy free market competition. Therefore limits of free speech or platform bans would not be an issue since the likes of Google and Amazon would be dealt with.

    - No restrictions on retail private property rights. (government having no right to close a business or ability to force businesses to accept all customers)

    - Privatization of police. If a community, business or residential requires security then they can contract with competing firms.

    - No restrictions on currency. Currency competition without restriction.

    - Government out of occupational licensing. Let the free market provide certifications allow consumers to decide who they do and do not want certified.

    In a free society none of these things I listed should be an issue and that is just scratching the surface. It blows the mind that people have been brainwashed to believe the US is a free country and not a totalitarian regime due to limits and restrictions on the above.
    We tried that. We truly did. Ron was an idea who's time had come. Even among some Democrats. After endless rebuttals to the racist crap and everything else. Some at least gave a modicum of support. Ron WAS the peace and love movement. R3volution. And those Democrats couldn't be bothered to change party affiliation or get out of bed on primary day. Not a single $#@!ing one, after endless texts and emails, that I thought I had convinced.
    But, they sure didn't give a $#@! that their choice Bernie got shafted and went and voted Biden. If you believe the narrative that Biden actually had more votes that is.

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